I actually approach this topic from a very different angle. I’m not interested in “evidence”. Only in seeing how people react to the stories and all the rest of the meta-perspectives. Because of that, what I’m seeing is this:

1. there is a cacophony of conflicting, tho generally similar stories being circulated. The gen-pop tends to believe stories when they are in agreement with other stories in some way.
2. there seems to be precious few people actually helping us learn how to shift our own consciousness so that we can see for ourselves what is going on all around us, but are instead simply offering us more and more objects (pictures, videos, documents, witnesses, stories, etc.) to goggle at. There are important exceptions.
3. The gen-pop is reacting to the stories in ways that can be easily categorized and predicted.
4. There doesn’t seem to be any “panic” on the side of the govt. about what the gen-pop supposedly “knows”.
5. The gen-pop has been brought to a point where we are demanding to be told a story over which the Powers That Be (PTB) will have total control. A story which will include things which cannot be proven or disproven. A story which we may argue with them about on some minor points, but which we have already been conditioned to accept once we see pictures, videos, documents, witnesses, stories, etc. – which they will prolly be able to provide by the truckload.

It is possible that they have been conditioning us to suspect that a certain group of stories is true, while keeping us from seeing or believing any information on a very different group of stories. Stories which conflict radically with the general trends get NO attention from ANYONE. I’ve heard a few of these. They are not usually accompanied by extensive proving and physical evidence. But some elements of them ARE exaggerated and magnified by certain trollish voices – making them even easier to ignore or disregard.

This is happening. I am not bringing myself to a state of certainty about what it all means, however, I do suspect that it would be prudent to make a plan should these radically different scenarios actually materialize. Certainty is not necessary. Neither is fear. Only preparedness.

I’m not a “Prepper”. No amount of guns or food will protect us from what some of these stories are indicating might be real. I have nothing to sell to anyone. But I would like to see some acknowledgment that teaching the gen-pop how to perceive what is happening in such a way that cannot be “managed” would be a high priority.

I don’t believe that we can believe any one single species or individual – human or not – about anything. But I do believe that it is possible to learn how to perceive enuf to make decisions and take actions and that when we do take actions, we have some kind of control over what is happening. If these decisions and actions are based on what our entire species would be able to perceive, in a way that has not been interfered with, then those decisions and actions would be appropriate and ACTUALLY in our best interest.

Incidentally, one of the things I think we can learn to perceive is when someone is deceiving us. That should be Priority #1.

When some entity tries to manipulate our perception in order to get us to decide and act the way they want us to, we get to see it right away. Right in front of us the way we would see a cup or a rock.

We need that ability and we need it now. Before any of this “Disclosure” bs starts.

Sincerely,
Tin

I listened to Dolan’s radio broadcast immediately after getting home from the Hearing and he discussed his impression of this man at length. It’s a fantastic listen. Check it out. At the time of that broadcast, this guy’s care was already being taken over by “professionals” as family could no longer cope.

One of the things that Dolan said (and I hear this alot) was that this man had nothing to gain by saying the things he was saying and so that is a major point on the side of believability.

I respect and admire Dolan alot. However, he is committed to using reason, logic and looking for hard, physical evidence in his work and because of that, there is alot of data he is going to miss. Using reason is not any kind of crime. But it is a mode of perceiving which is easily and constantly manipulated. I want folks to think about whether we really need to maintain this commitment to reason and logic when it is used against us more often than not.

So, let me now tell you what I can clearly see that Dolan supposedly does not see.

This man def had something to gain by telling his story. The PTB (Powers That Be) have infinite ways of “benefitting” those who cooperate – just as they have infinite ways of punishing those who don’t. One of their most compelling is planting the idea of what they can do for/to your family. Everyone is aware of this.

They know that the gen-pop is likely to believe a death-bed confession so they would benefit alot from being able to create one that tells the story that they want people to believe. Can’t offer anything good to the person in question, but wow do they ever have alot of bargaining chips when it comes to their family. Everything that Dolan said about his family can be explained by this one possibility:

That if the PTB offered to protect and provide very well for his family and their extended family as long as they exist, would he tell this one last little fib for them?

He had already said that his job was to fib. That’s what Blue Book was. Could it be that he was still good at it? Even as he was dying?

1. Wife was pissed that he was doing this interview.
2. Son-in-Law was VERY helpful. In fact, couldn’t have done it without him.
3. When you only have a few months or weeks or days left, the welfare of your progeny often becomes your #1 priority.

Think about it. She too is elderly and has little to lose if he refuses. She is less invested. Son-in-Law benefits directly and has everything to gain if he does it. His investment is HUGE! This man’s last worry is completely put to rest if he does it. He can die in peace. That’s a PHAT investment.

Granted this is not proof of anything and that Dolan’s impression is just as possible. But what I really want to point out here is how much can be missed when your reasoning faculties are manipulated into believing what they want you to believe. What I have suggested is not far-fetched. Once it is pointed out, it becomes an obvious possibility. Why would someone as smart and reasonable as Dolan miss that?

Because our perception is being manipulated. Look at the Wikipedia article on “perception management” and have a good read. Even tho Wikipedia must be compromised by now, it still has alot to say and gives us plenty of reasons why we shouldn’t necessarily come to a sense of certainty about ANYTHING ANYONE SAYS! NO ONE! Especially ourselves!

I have experience with trying to live with self-doubt and navigate thru this world without becoming completely paralyzed. I know how to perceive in such a way as to get what I need to make decisions and take actions without requiring certainty. And here’s an oxymoronic-ironic statement:

The Truth is irrelevant.

The PTB don’t require truth to act defensively. All they need to know is what is possible. Then they create a contingency plan for that. It doesn’t matter how unbelievable they think it is or how expensive it will be to plan for, they have to do it. Hope for the best, plan for the worst. That is how the Military operates. Standard operating procedure.

Notice how much energy is spent convincing you that you are not allowed to speculate or guess about what they might possibly be doing? You are mocked and ridiculed as being a “conspiracy theorist” for doing exactly what they do best.

But when it comes to acting offensively, they have to have a weapon that can overcome the incredible power of the internet. And that is disinfo and all the rest of the tools in the toolbox of perception management. They’ve got this down to a science. All the bases are covered. By them. Every story you could possibly believe about them is being managed. By them. Even if there are still some media outlets that are only distributing truth (which is very doubtful now), they have paralleled those sources and matched every “fact” with a fiction of their choosing. Certainty is now completely impossible.

If we don’t learn how to make decisions and take actions sans certainty, they have us locked down. Remember: they already do that every day. They are the experts in it. If anyone tries to dismiss you or your perspective because it does not have enuf proof or facts, they are either agents or they have been brainwashed by agents.

Likewise, we need to stop wasting our time and energy trying to collect proofs and facts AND stop using the language of certainty when voicing our perspective and start adopting the attitude of guessing. Once we do this, possibilities such as Anonymous lying can appear in our awareness and we are less likely to be deceived. It seems ironic and counter-intuitive to do this, but remember: they have already been doing it for a long time. SOP for Military defense.

We have a right to defend ourselves against any possibilities relating to their use of perception management.

One of the other benefits to this will be that we will stop arguing and fighting amongst ourselves – since we’re all just guessing, after all. Consider that a very large possible motive why they would NOT want us to do this.

Sincerely,
Tin

The following link is a search for “space debris” at on the NASA-Johnson server — Look here:

http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/SSEOP/sseop.pl?outputoption=RECORDS&feature=SPACE%20DEBRIS%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&featuretype=LITERAL&missionoption=X&sort=pdate%20DESC,mission,roll,frame%20ASC&showpdatecb=on&showgeoncb=on&showfeatcb=on&showlatcb=on&showloncb=on&collection=

The photos in question are these:

Database Search Results
Number of records found: 11
Show thumbnails if they are available. (thumbnail image not color adjusted)
Quick View MISSION ROLL FRAME GEON FEAT LAT LON YYYYMMDD
STS088 724 65 OCEAN PAN-SNGLNT., SPACE DEBRIS 19981211
STS088 724 66 OCEAN PAN-SNGLNT., SPACE DEBRIS 19981211
STS088 724 67 OCEAN PAN-SNGLNT., SPACE DEBRIS 19981211
STS088 724 68 OCEAN PAN-SNGLNT., SPACE DEBRIS 19981211
STS088 724 69 OCEAN SUNGLINT, SPACE DEBRIS 19981211
STS088 724 70 OCEAN SUNGLINT, SPACE DEBRIS 19981211

Click on the quick view for the frame then slide down and click the link that says: “See all metadata, images and captions.” That page includes all of the related information for the photos that were taken.

Slide down and you will see links to all of the available images including the hires images… also note that the description is “Space Debris”

Below are direct links to the 4096 x 4096 high resolution images which are the highest resolution available

http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/images/ISD/highres/STS088/STS088-724-65_3.JPG
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/images/ISD/highres/STS088/STS088-724-66_3.JPG
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/images/ISD/highres/STS088/STS088-724-67_3.JPG
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/images/ISD/highres/STS088/STS088-724-68_3.JPG
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/images/ISD/highres/STS088/STS088-724-69_3.JPG
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/images/ISD/highres/STS088/STS088-724-70_3.JPG

Frame 65 is one of the more interesting ones.

I don’t think NASA was trying to hide anything but I do think that they do occasionally change the access and display methods for all of their “products” [a government term for images / data for public use]… which is probably why the old links went dead….

On the other hand, If they were actually something as important as an unknown space craft I really doubt these images would have ended up on a public server. they would not have allowed the photos to go up on the web… nor would they identify them as part of a “Photo CD set”.

Regards…

- How is it that a UFO (of any origin) engages a flotilla and that occurrence is reported on by only a few men?

- How is it that the USN could change the name of a boat known to thousands of people without any of them mentioning it? It is one thing to conceal/alter info known only to a few people – quite another to do that with something that is publicly known.