Below is a video featuring an interview with Corey Goode about the latest Secret Space Programs (SSP) Alliance updates. Corey describes being taken on board a Mayan SSP craft where he met with his long time contact, Gonzales, who briefed him on the current situation on the Earth, Moon and Mars, activities of the Dark Fleet, and what is happening outside of our solar system.
The situation in our solar system is one of heavy repression and lockdowns as the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate (ICC) is interrogating personnel to find saboteurs and infiltrators from the SSP Alliance. Corey explains that the human workers on Mars are too beaten down and intimidated to offer much resistance to the ICC. He further explains that while Dark Fleet bases on the Moon, Mars and elsewhere in our solar system have been taken over by the ICC—due to a solar system-wide lockdown. However, the Draconian extraterrestrials still continue to operate, and their underground facilities have not been taken out.
The news from outside of our solar system was more encouraging with the Global Galactic League of Nations (GGLN) finding extraterrestrial allies and becoming more autonomous in their operations due to being cut off from our solar system. Corey states that the GGLN has broken away from ICC control, is now actively working with one or more Galactic Federation type organizations, and has fulfilled its Continuity of Species purpose in the event of catastrophic events in our solar system. Corey has previously discussed prospects of a powerful solar flash event taking place in our solar system.
Overall, the exopolitical situation described by Corey is very tense and precarious, mirroring contemporary global events. I’ve included below the embedded video of our interview the relevant text of the update Corey sent me.
At the end of the interview, Corey announced the upcoming ‘The Ascension Summit’ which will be held in Colorado Springs on August 12-15, 2021. More info here.
Finally, I discussed my new book, Space Force: Our Star Trek Future, and upcoming May 22, 2021 Webinar, ‘Antarctica, Dark Fleet and Humanity’s Liberation,’ which goes into detail into the Antarctic origins of the Dark Fleet. More info here.
Michael Salla, Ph.D.
[May 15, 2021 Update – Transcript of Interview is now available – click here]
Edited version of text of Update from Corey Goode via Skype
[Forwarded from SBA – Ascension Works TV (Corey Goode)]
… The SSP Alliance had made progress in spreading information about atrocities within the Military levels of the MIC SSP because of the intel Sigmund provided them prior to leaving their service and going to work for the SSP Alliance. This information had made its way across a few of the SSP’s including the Global Galactic League of Nations (GGLN) who we are finding out has recently been working loosely with one of the galactic federations (Of which there are several).
The GGLN is in a position to where they may pull away from the ICC’s leadership/control and become independent human colonies/bases of their own (Break Away Civilization). They are well aware of the future solar flash in our solar system and are preparing in case they are to be one of the few remnants of our species (Just in case). The ICC has also been investigating sabotage missions that have crippled many of their deep space missions as well as caused catastrophic damage to some of the facilites that produce technology used in trade with over 900 other ET races.
Because of these operations (By Alliance and people waking up in the programs) the ICC has locked down their facilities in super fascist manner. We have seen a lot of weird debris falling from the skies recently among other things. The LOC and its MIC SSP equivalent on the surface of Earth have been heavily enforcing the flight corridors with lethal force. There has been a major witch hunt for SSP Alliance moles in all of the SSP’s by order of the ICC. Much more to come!
More recent interview updates with Corey Goode
- Interview with Corey Goode on Israeli Ex-Mil Space Chief, US & ALIEN Galactic Federation Deal & Mars Base – Transcript available here
- Interview with Corey Goode on UFO Disclosure War, QAnon, Military Arrests & Dark Fleets
- Insider Reveals UFO & Secret Space Program Disclosure War
- MUFONs Jan Harzan Arrested, Q-munity Infiltration & POTUS Briefed ‘Roswell = Us in the Future’? WTF?
More Information about Corey Goode and his online courses are available at CoreyGoode.com
In this fourth interview with Dr. Michael Salla on Exopolitics Today, Elena Danaan gives an overview of the origins, history, and alliances of different human looking extraterrestrials as they relate to recent Earth history. She explains how different human extraterrestrials from Aldebaran and Alcyone (rebel Pleiadians) interacted with Nazi Germany and Draco Reptilian extraterrestrials in setting up bases in Antarctica, Moon and Mars.
Elena further discusses the mysterious connection between George Adamski’s famed Venusian scoutcraft and Nazi Germany’s Haunebu flying saucer craft, and how members of the Dark Fleet would claim to be Venusians when meeting with human contactees.
Discussion also covers the recent liberation of the Moon by the Galactic Federation of Worlds, and how this has been handed over to humans to determine their destiny. Recent official announcements by different national space agencies that humans will return to the Moon beginning in 2024, are discussed in relation to these recent exopolitical developments, and earlier reports that humans were told to leave the Moon in 1972.
The summary of the history and origins of human looking extraterrestrials that have interacted with humanity’s evolution is represented in the following diagram extracted from Elena’s book, A Gift from the Stars: Extraterrestrial Contacts and Guide of Alien Races (2020).
More Interviews with Elena Danaan
- Supersoldiers & Extraterrestrial Agreements: Interview with Elena Danaan on Death of Stephen Chua
- Extraterrestrial Contact & the Galactic Federation – 2nd Interview with Elena Danaan
- Galactic Federation Intervention on Mars, Moon & Earth
- Apollo Missions Ended Because Extraterrestrials Prevented US Navy Bases on Moon
- Did German Astronaut Pretend to be from Venus during Adamski 1952 Encounter?
- Did Armstrong & Aldrin receive death threats to keep moon secrets?
- Video Shows UFO watching Apollo 15: Were Astronauts Warned to Leave the Moon
- Multiple Moon Bases & U.S. Military Space Shuttles as Cover Programs
In this third interview on Exopolitics Today with Dr. Michael Salla, Elena Danaan discusses Galactic Federation operations against repressive extraterrestrial races on Mars, the Moon and Earth. Elena describes a Galactic Federation military intervention against Draconian (Ciakar) Reptilian and Tall Gray bases on Mars that she telepathically witnessed through her primary ET contact, Thor Han. She further explains how the Galactic Federation is able to intervene against advanced technologies built by the Deep State with the help of repressive alien groups designed to control and manipulate humanity. Finally, Elena discusses some spiritual techniques people can use to protect themselves against negative alien groups and how to raise one’s frequency and consciousness.
Earlier Exopolitics Today Interviews with Elena Danaan
- Supersoldiers & Extraterrestrial Agreements: Interview with Elena Danaan on Death of Stephen Chua
- Extraterrestrial Contact & the Galactic Federation – 2nd Interview with Elena Danaan
In our 2nd interview, Elena Danaan recounts her personal contact experiences, the most dramatic of which involved an abduction at age nine by five gray aliens. In the midst of two medical procedures involving implants, she was rescued by two human looking extraterrestrials using laser weapons. In the interview, Elena explains how her rescuers repurposed one of the implants so they could subsequently remain in telepathic communications. Elena learned that her rescuers belong to a Galactic Federation of Worlds that is helping Earth’s Great Awakening.
Elena explains how the Galactic Federation first became interested in Earth after it was advised by another extraterrestrial political organization, the Andromeda Council, that a future galactic tyranny could be traced back to Earth in the present era. This matches the testimony of Alex Collier who said, around 1991, that the sudden appearance of a galactic tyranny about 350 years in our future could be traced back to the Earth, Moon and Mars. In Defending Sacred Ground, Alex wrote:
Now, in our galaxy there are many councils. I don’t know everything about all those councils, but I do know about the Andromedan council, which is a group of beings from 139 different star systems that come together and discuss what is going on in the galaxy. It is not a political body. What they have been recently discussing is the tyranny in our future, 357 years from now, because that affects everybody.
Apparently what they have done, through time travel, is that they have been able to figure out where the significant shift in energy occurred that causes the tyranny 357 years in our future. They have traced it back to our solar system, and they have been able to further track it down to Earth, Earth’s moon and Mars. Those three places. (Defending Sacred Ground, p. 10)
Elena recounts how President Eisenhower was betrayed by the Majestic-12 Group which made an agreement with Gray aliens without his permission. This matches insider accounts that Eisenhower was on the verge of ordering the US Army to take over the Area 51 S-4 facility controlled by the MJ-12 Group in 1958 for their failure to fully brief him on their activities.
She also discussed how the Galactic Federation has been working with an Earth Alliance, and the four countries most active in this cooperation are Russia, USA, France and Israel. In addition, she corroborated Prof Haim Eshed’s recent claims that President Trump was actively collaborating with the Galactic Federation.
Elena further explains how in November 2018, she was advised by one of her alien rescuers, Thor Han Eredyon, that in two years, the Earth would enter a very dangerous phase, but at the end of it humanity would be liberated from the dark forces that have controlled it for centuries. This brings us to contemporary political events and multiple insider accounts that claim White Hats have set the stage for a series of earth shattering announcements.
Watch this fascinating interview for a glimpse into how different extraterrestrial factions are battling one another to steer humanity’s destiny.
Michael Salla, Ph.D.
Note: The first Interview with Elena Danaan is available here.
- Controversy over Israeli Scientist claims of US Alien agreement & Galactic Federation
- The Coming Solar Flash & the Galactic Federation – Q&A with Corey Goode
- Are Middle East Wars a cover for Soldiers being sent to fight Extraterrestrials?
- Planetary Intervention: Earth Special Forces – Nordic Delegations, UFO Crash Retrievals & Alien Firefights
- Britain’s SAS & Global SpecOps trained to fight extraterrestrials
An insider using the pseudonym ‘Daniel’, who claims to be from a secret government group called ‘Earth Force’, shared his experiences with Fabio Santos, a Brazilian researcher, who wrote a book about them called Planetary Intervention. According to ‘Daniel, Specialized Elite Earth Forces have provided perimeter support for Nordic extraterrestrials meeting with Earth officials, and battled Reptilian and Grey Aliens over crashed UFOs. Daniel also revealed the long history of Reptilians coming to Earth to hunt and kill humans as part of a secret agreement dating back more than a millennia that mirrors the Predator series of movies.
Transcript of Interview on “Israeli Ex-Mil Space Chief: US & ALIEN Galactic Federation Deal (Human Experiments) & Mars Base” with Dr Michael Salla and Corey Goode
December 10, 2020
Source – YouTube: https://youtu.be/c7OwPpc4cLA
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Corey Goode: Hello. Thank you for joining the Sphere Being Alliance YouTube channel. Today I’m talking with Dr. Salla about some rather exciting articles that have appeared on even mainstream media. And it’s been trending on Twitter. You see it all over Facebook.
It’s regarding the Israeli “spy”, as they’re calling him, who announced that United States had signed an agreement with an extraterrestrial federation and that we had a joint base on Mars.
Welcome, Michael, Dr. Salla. How are you doing today?
Dr. Michael Salla: I’m good, Corey. I’m glad to be here and it’s really great with this breaking news from this Israeli scientist. I mean, he’s really very senior. For him to come out and share what he has been saying is really confirmation about the sort of things you’ve been talking about for a few years now.
Now we’re getting it from a person that headed Israel’s defense program for spy satellites for 30 years.
Corey: Yeah, you being the researcher that you are, you dug into him and researched him, I’m sure. And can you kind of give us a little bit of a summary of why we should pay attention to this person?
FORMER ISRAELI SPACE SECURITY CHIEF’S STORY
Dr. Salla: Okay. All right. Well, he has a PhD in aeronautical engineering and he was sponsored by the Israel’s Defense Forces. And he was put in charge of the Space Research Institute at Technion, which is a technical university in Israel and that’s the place where they actually run Israel’s spy satellites.
So this guy ran that for 30 years after having served in the Israeli Defense Forces for a number of years.
So from 1981 up until . . . it was about 30 years, until 2010 when he retired, he ran this institute and the satellite program, which for Israel is really doing a lot of their espionage or this space surveillance.
And because of that, that meant he got to work closely with the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) and the CIA because the CIA runs the National Reconnaissance Office in conjunction with the Pentagon.
And so that means that the kind of programs that the NRO and the CIA have been doing for years in terms of space surveillance they have cooperated with Israel.
And so this is the person who headed the Israeli side of the spy satellite system.
He personally was in charge when 20 satellites went up.
And so that’s the cover. I mean, that’s really the sort of thing that Israel’s Defense Forces and the Mossad does to kind of like give them information about real world intelligence in the Middle East.
But what he’s just revealed through these interviews, which are part of a book that’s just come out, is actually that it was much more than just satellites up there that they were working with the Americans and that there was the joint extraterrestrial agreement.
So big news. So that’s where I wanted to kind of get your feedback on what you know about the NRO being involved in this kind of like liaison with extraterrestrials on behalf of the U.S. government.
SUPER FEDERATION OF GENETIC FARMERS
Corey: Yeah, the NRO and the DIA, I believe, had assets that are similar to what this person’s describing. And them talking about the federation, we have to remember, you know, I had talked earlier about this Galactic Super Federation.
And the Super Federation was kind of like a ruling body or place where people came together to present their experiments – the progress of their experiments – see the progress of others and to kind of . . . It’s a kind of governing body.
There are other small federations that are made up of different groups that are allied that are coming together in this Super Federation.
So it sounds very much to me like the genetic farmer races that I had described that, basically, the Deep State, or the super shadow government, had made deals like I had described with some of these extraterrestrial groups that were here supposedly monitoring us but also tinkering with our genetics.
Let’s say someone signed a deal in the 1940s. Like I’ve described before, these ETs have the ability to travel in time as easily as they travel in space.
So if they just happen to show up here in, let’s say, 1940, and it’s the first time they’ve been in our system, they could conceivably then travel all the way back in time and start tinkering with our timeline and genetics, and they could actually be our ancient aliens.
It’s a hard thing to wrap your mind around.
Time is something that they can jump around in and play with very easily.
So what’s happening is not only a galactic type of thing, it’s a temporal occurrence as well.
DIFFERENT GALACTIC FEDERATIONS
Dr. Salla: So that’s one of the things that is important is what he’s talking about when he mentions the “Galactic Federation”.
Is he talking about this group of extraterrestrials that have made these agreements with the Deep State and doing all these kinds of genetic experiments, and that they are kind of like, as you said, “genetic farmers”?
Or is he talking about a different group? I mean, maybe you can kind of elaborate between what he’s talking about, this Galactic Federation making agreements with the US, the Deep State, for genetic engineering and overseeing our planet, with the human-looking extraterrestrials that most people associate as the good guys. They call them the “Galactic Confederation” or the . . . even the Sphere Being Alliance.
Because I remember at one point you talked about the Sphere Being Alliance being part of a galactic federation or confederation.
So are we talking about different alliance groups here?
Corey: Yeah, many different groups. You hear “Galactic Federation” a lot. Well, that could apply to many different groups, like, you know, the Sphere Being Alliance. They’re a part of this, like, a galactic watcher kind of group that are overwatching higher-density realms and also looking after the lower-density realms to make sure everything’s being done according to Cosmic Law. These are like 6th, 7th density beings – very evolved beings.
And then you go down to 4th and 5th density beings and those include anything from the Reptilians to these tall Nordic races, different types of beings that we lump into what we call the “Grays”.
There’s a whole assortment of these other types of beings that . . . Insectoids. Insectoids are extremely into genetics. That’s . . . All of their technology is genetic manipulation. And even the ships they fly in.
And they’re a part of these little federations together. They work with Reptilians sometimes and they have agreements of convenience as well, because some of them have genetic spiritual timeline agendas that conflict with other people in this Super Federation.
And they sabotage each other’s experiments at times. That’s one of the reasons that they have this Super Federation is to help manage that and prevent chaos in all of these different systems because if chaos occurs, no one wins because the objective is Ascension or evolution on a genetic level and also a consciousness level.
SUPER FEDERATION IS BEING RECONSTITUTED
Dr. Salla: Okay, so the Super Federation of these human-looking groups that you went to, that was part of your job description, . . . And more recently you said that you also went up there as that Super Federation was reconstituted.
That’s kind of like a superior body or a separate body to this “Galactic Federation” that Professor Eshed’s talking about, that he was knowledgeable of.
Corey: I believe so because the Super Federation is more like a governing body where they all come together like in a big congress-type of situation.
And then they kind of act like their own little states with their own agendas while not attending the meeting. But they have agreements that they come together and enforce instead of [having] open warfare in the skies, you know, ships coming in destroying small civilizations to destroy their genetic lineage so theirs will prosper or spreading diseases, all of that type of thing.
They try to manage that in a way that’s going to benefit all of the different groups.
Eventually the group being worked on is supposed to take over like we are supposed to be doing.
Humanity is supposed to be taking over our own experiment.
And as I reported years ago at one of the last meetings I went to, the ET federation [Super Federation] had basically been told they’re disbanding and that humanity was taking over their own evolution as far as genetics and consciousness, you know, religion, consciousness, all of that. It wasn’t going to be manipulated by outside forces anymore for the first time.
So we’re going through the process of having that fully handed over to us.
So I think that we’re getting to the point to where they’re going to be willing to share their existence, the ETs that we’re talking about, openly pretty soon.
They definitely want to acclimate us and don’t want it to happen on our timetable.
Dr. Salla: So that’s pretty consistent with what Professor Eshed said that the Galactic Federation are looking at revealing themselves and that we haven’t quite reached the point yet of being ready for them.
Do you think this is all consistent with what you learned about: the reconstituting of the Super Federation that you knew of and now humanity is in charge? Are we talking about the same process or are these parallel processes?
Corey: It sounds like the same process and in a way parallel processes.
BASES ON MARS
He mentions that humans are working with some of these extraterrestrials on bases on Mars, but we know that we have bases that ETs have built that they are “sharing” with humans on the Moon and Mars and other places up to a smaller degree. But these are pretty significant bases.
The fact that a mainstream person like the one that we’re talking about would talk about humans and ETs sharing a base on Mars, that just opens up the conversation for the public on all the information you and I’ve been sharing the last five or more years.
Dr. Salla: Exactly. Yes. He actually did say American astronauts are up there working with extraterrestrials. So that’s really acknowledging that there’s a Secret Space Program with bases on Mars and that this Secret Space Program is conducting joint experiments with extraterrestrials. Mars is one of the places where this is all being done. And that he was privy to this knowledge in his official capacity.
And that matches with my ongoing research showing how the NRO and the CIA, along with the NSA, have been part of this kind of like Deep State-organized Secret Space Program.
And I think he would know about that because he was handling the Israeli side of it, because the Mossad and Israel’s Defense Force and their Space Institute handling their spy satellites, all of that was all part of this kind of overall coordination between the Israelis and the Americans for not only conducting spy or espionage over the Middle East but also monitoring Deep State traffic and obviously keeping up to speed with what the extraterrestrials are doing.
Corey: Yes, and I believe this is all a part of an acclimation process. We’ve had Fox News and other media showing the Tic Tac UFO, talking about some of the programs that we had to investigate extraterrestrials and covered it in a serious way.
Now we have a fairly high-ranking credible person from one of our allied countries that is making even larger statements that’s going to open up the conversation, because how many people in the mainstream saw that and after they chuckled a little bit, they went through and they read it and they were highlighting “Galactic Federation” and Googling it, and then all of these other little keywords, and then they’re finding their way to our work, our community, where we’re releasing this information.
This has gone somewhat viral and it’s really an opportunity for the powers-that-be to start seeding our consciousness, but it’s an opportunity for us to jump in on the PR around it and show everybody that there’s a lot more information to be found.
POSSIBLE DISTRACTION PROGRAM
Dr. Salla: Right. So, one of the questions I think a lot of people have is: Is this genuinely part of the Disclosure Process of the Awakening Process? Or is this a distraction to kind of like get people’s attention away from the political turmoil in the US and how things are unraveling here?
Corey: I had been warning for years that right when we get to the point where we see that everything’s about to be exposed about the Cabal, what’s been going on on the planet, that I expected a big announcement about Antarctica or ETs or the Secret Space Program to occur.
So because of the time we’re in, it could be a distraction, but at the same time, it could also be just a part of this drip, drip disclosure that they have that they’ve been planning to release information over a long period of time.
You’re starting to see news articles about “time travel is possible”. They’re seeding our consciousness with that because when we learn about the technology that the space program or Space Force and other groups are using now, there are too many temporal anomalies that occur when you’re observing the operation of these craft for you not to have that programming. You need to have your mind expanded a little bit to understand that this time travel stuff is real, and this is kind of how it works.
And then, “Oh, these craft that we release, you notice how they flutter from here to there and it looks like they’re in two places at once? Well, you know, that has to do with some of the temporal effects that occur”, and it will sink in a lot easier to the mass consciousness.
Dr. Salla: Right. Okay. Because I know that’s a concern some people have that this is all a distraction, but I think it’s really just also a part of the awakening process as the Deep State loses control as it has to play all its cards.
You know, this is one of the big cards it’s been holding back for decades now, and now it’s being played. And maybe part of the rationale is a distraction from the other stuff going on, but at the same time, you know, I think we can take this as a kind of gift in a way to help awaken humanity to the big picture, because I’ve always thought as more and more people start to look to space and look for answers to a lot of questions – UFOs, what’s happening on the other planets, and so forth, Secret Space Programs that . . . our consciousness is going to expand.
It’s just inevitable when you start to think outside of our planetary sphere, consciousness expands.
So that’s a good thing even if the Deep State is trying to roll this out as part of a distraction. It’s still a positive thing.
DISCLOSURES FROM THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY
Corey: Yes. Yeah, I agree.
Another thing we need to watch is the entertainment industry. A lot of these disclosures . . . just prepping our mind is going to occur in movies, television shows, video games to slowly kind of ease us into what they are about to reveal.
So, I think, what’s going to come out in Hollywood in the next five years is going to be, you know, really interesting to observe. Because we’re talking, you know . . . We have galactic federations we’re talking about in the news, time travel.
The consciousness of humanity has been seeded already for more, and they can bring in a lot of interesting concepts through science fiction and other methods.
So I think keeping our eyes on the media is going to help us kind of foresee what’s about to come, because usually you can watch their moves, and the moves they make will kind of give away their timing of what they’re planning on doing next.
THE KARDASHEV SCALE
Dr. Salla: Uh huh. So I wanted to ask you about one of the things that Professor Eshed said that I thought was really interesting, and maybe you’ve talked about it in the past, but I didn’t quite . . . maybe I didn’t appreciate it at the time, but he said that the Galactic Federation was on the verge of revealing itself through the Trump Administration, or that Trump was getting ready to reveal its existence.
But then it said, “No, hold on. Humanity isn’t quite there yet. Technologically, we aren’t at that sufficient level.
So it brings up this whole question of Type 1, Type 2, Type 3 civilizations, the Kardashev Scale. And as far as I know, the Breakaway Civilization with all the advanced tech is probably Type 1.1 or Type 1.2, or something like that, whereas we are using open source scientific data, you know . . .
Michio Kaku said that we are at 0.7%. So we’re not yet a Type 1 civilization globally, yet.
So the Galactic Federation said, well, we need to be closer to a Type 1 civilization before they reveal themselves.
Is that part of the normal process for extraterrestrials making open contact that society has to be closer to a Type 1 status?
Corey: Not that I observed, and it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me to be honest. If we were just one live news announcement away from being a Type 1 civilization, well, they just have to reveal it to us.
So the technology is there. We have the technology to go and visit these ETs at their home planet under our own volition.
A CHANGE OF CONSCIOUSNESS IS CONNECTED TO THE BUILDUP OF THE SOLAR EVENT
So I think more of what needs to catch up is the consciousness. And right now we’re . . . in the United States, look we’re on the verge of an open civil war. There’s been a shadow civil war for at least four years.
Look at all these different countries, there’s turmoil everywhere.
The ETs know that this is all part of the buildup to the Solar Event that as the cosmic energy and feedback from the Sun through the Cosmic Web builds up, it begins to affect our consciousness and everyone starts having End-Time Madness, you know, and having to deal with their own BS.
And it builds up and builds up until the Sun has this micro nova, and then it sort of resets.
And everyone after that time are all connected in a way that we’ve never been really connected before.
That, I believe, is more of the change that they are waiting for us to make.
We already have the Type 1 civilization technologies and we are manufacturing them, actually trading them, to other solar systems.
So, I really think that . . . Now, maybe technologically we don’t have an understanding of the current laws of physics, the electroplasmic physics, the way the universe works and the way consciousness ties in. That is a technology in a way.
But as far as a physical technology as in space travel, manipulating energy and matter, we have a lot of those abilities now.
Dr. Salla: Right. Okay. So then from the perspective of extraterrestrials monitoring our planet, you know, they look at our planet, and even though we have a Breakaway Civilization hoarding a lot of these advanced technologies, they’re not going to say, “Well, that planet is like type 0.7 or something or . . . They are going to judge us from the advanced technologies that are being used even if it’s just by a small elite group ensconced in these classified programs that the extraterrestrials will look at all of that and say, “Well, technologically, this planet is at a Type 1 status already.”
It’s just that most people on the planet’s surface don’t have access to those technologies because they are being hoarded by the Deep State.
So what Professor Eshed said that the Galactic Federation is waiting for us to catch up, you think that’s kind of like disinformation? Is that just a new agenda? Is he pushing an agenda?
MANY ET GROUPS ARE AMORAL
Corey: You know, I mean, that could be his understanding based on what they were saying in the programs. But over all it has to make you wonder: Are these ETs the amoral ones that I had talked about, or are they the angelic ones?
Well, if they’re waiting for us to . . . I mean, it just doesn’t sound like they’re interacting with us in a way of angelic beings.
Now, a lot of these beings in these galactic federations, I’m not saying they’re negative, but they’re amoral. They’re coming down kind of like scientists doing a clinical study and they’re not getting emotionally attached to it.
They come in, they pick you up, give you an injection, check you out, make some notes, put you down, just like we would a lab rat.
But the lab rat, his perspective, is, “Hey, this being’s picking me up, jabbing me, holding me in this area against my will.”
It’s not going to see this ET as being a positive being.
But a lot of the ETs in this Galactic Federation that do all these genetic experiments see themselves as sort of like amoral scientists.
AGREEMENTS WITH ETs FOR GENETIC EXPERIMENTATION
Dr. Salla: And that’s one of the things he pointed out in his interview that these experiments that are happening are between the U.S. and the extraterrestrials as part of these agreements.
He didn’t actually specify how many agreements there are and all of that, but as far as I know, the first agreement happened in 1955 at Holloman Air Force Base where Eisenhower secretly met with representatives of . . . either it was the German Antarctic Program or extraterrestrials or a combination of the two. That’s kind of like still not clear.
But that’s the first set of agreements that I know of.
Corey: Yeah, there are definitely agreements prior to that. If you remember, my grandfather, who during World War II was a conscientious objector, went into this program to where they were giving them viruses and wartime diseases and then coming up with treatments.
Well, I’m told that this experiment also entailed that the viruses they were giving them had little things that turned on and turned off genes in their body and then affected their offspring, going down to my dad, then me.
So this was genetic manipulation before genes were ever really announced in, I think, the 50s.
NORDIC ET GROUPS
So how were they knowing how to edit your DNA using a virus in the 1940s? Well, it’s because they were working with a Nordic group. And this Nordic group was working with them to implement these genetic changes to help create assets to fight against the negative ETs that they considered negative.
So this goes back to the 40s, to the 30s.
There have been . . . The United States when it was founded . . . there were discussions . . . some of the founding fathers discussed that there were “unearthly beings” that were involved.
I would say that there would have to have possibly been an agreement even back that far.
Dr. Salla: Well, that’s really interesting that the Nordics were helping the U.S. with some of their genetic experiments in the 40s.
Corey: The “20-and-Back Program” came from the Nordic race. They came and they told us: “Well, the way the mechanics of your Solar System works, there’s like a 20-year kind of little bandwidth that you can use to exploit to create time temporal bubbles that you can bring people from all different times into and work on problems.”
And they had done it in many different solar systems, but in each solar system it’s a different time period. It might be a 10-year-and-Back – a 10-year loop that they are able to exploit.
And I was told it had to do with Saturn, something with Saturn, in our Solar System, that Saturn was our chronos planet.
NORDICS AND SOLAR WARDEN, AND THE REPTILIANS AND THE DARK FLEET
Dr. Salla: Right. So the 20-and-Back Program really began in the U.S. with the Nordic races helping secretly, I guess, the Navy develop the Solar Warden Program.
Whereas the Reptilians helping the Germans in Nazi Germany and in Antarctica. I mean, they wouldn’t need a 20-and-Back Program, or maybe they did. Maybe they piggybacked on it, but I assume that they didn’t need it to begin with, but the U.S. did because it was all being done secretly.
Corey: Yeah, the Germans were exploiting that as well.
Dr. Salla: Uh-huh.
Corey: Dark Fleet was using 20-and-Back as well.
Dr. Salla: Okay. So how would the Dark Fleet . . . have been doing it, or the Germans? Were they kind of like doing it, the 20-and-Back, with their own citizens or after agreements were reached with the U.S., they were taking a lot of U.S. citizens and making them work in the Dark Fleet for 20 years and then putting them back, or military people?
Corey: Well, in the beginning, the Germans were using it on a much smaller scale than what the Americans were doing. They weren’t using it in earnest until like around the same time that Solar Warden was.
Dark Fleet was kind of working all around us and kind of given free reign. And they were still pulling assets from Earth. They were working on the Lunar Operations Command at times. They were integrated into everything.
So they were getting assets to and from the Dark Fleet using the 20-and-Back as well.
INTERPLANETARY CORPORATE CONGLOMERATE
Dr. Salla: Uh-huh. Interesting. Well, I thought it was really interesting that Professor Eshed kind of identified Mars as the place for this joint U.S.-extraterrestrial base.
Is that kind of like referring to, say, a base that’s run by the Deep State, run by, say, whether we’re talking about the Dark Fleet, we’re talking about Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate, that they are taking Americans up there and they’re kind of like using them to automatically prepare them for deep space operations or doing research and development?
Corey: Yeah, you have corporate bases – almost all of them Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate bases. There are some that are just Dark Fleet.
But the ones that he’s discussing are the ones that are built and controlled by ETs, and they have given us access to the facilities, and we go and work there alongside them.
Dr. Salla: Okay. All right. So, when we’re talking about a place like Mars, we’re talking about bases that are either controlled by the Dark Fleet, Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate or extraterrestrials, and Americans are taken there for different things.
But we’re not talking about any bases on Mars that at the moment come under the jurisdictional sovereignty of, say, the American government.
Corey: You know, there could be small little bases that have been built, especially since I was involved, that are related to the programs that ended up aggregating into the Space Force, some of the military-industrial complex ones, but those typically are smaller, more modular sort of bases that are more in line with what we’re used to seeing depicted in the 60s and 70s in NASA art, more of those types of bases.
And the larger bases that are just completely built out like cities are usually going to be Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate.
And a lot of the bases that even the military groups use are kind of staffed out, built out and staffed, by the corporate groups anyway.
So there could be a military base that you would consider just for, let’s say, the Solar Warden group. Well, that base was most likely built by Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate assets and, most likely, there’s at least some management going on inside that base that involves the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate even though it’s officially a Solar Warden base.
They’re all just kind of . . . The tentacles go everywhere.
JOINT BASE ON MARS
Dr. Salla: Uh-huh. Okay. So, why do you think Professor Eshed mentioned Mars having these joint bases? Does that mean that we’re going to start to learn very soon about what’s really going on in Mars that there’s multiple things going on over there?
I guess that’s going to blow people’s minds especially the mainstream when they start learning that there are these secret bases up there already that are running.
I mean, people like Elon Musk are talking about sending up their starship, you know, taking three months to get to Mars using methane rockets to take people over there.
He’s talking about 2024 maybe the first one going. But does that all now just become kind of like moot because Eshed’s revealed that there bases already there and American astronauts are already there.
So they’re obviously getting there. They’re not using methane rockets to get there. They’re using anti-gravity craft.
So does this mean that what Musk is doing, and kind of Mars exploration, that all of that’s going to be supercharged as the information comes out that this advanced tech exists?
Corey: What I think is that for years to come we will still be building out this more conventional space technology because there’s going to be a gap. They’ll let us know . . . I mean, they let us know about the Stealth Bomber, but how many of you have flown in one?
We found out about that in the 1980s.
So just because technology is disclosed to us doesn’t mean that you or I are going to be flying around in it.
And if we want to access space and access to certain areas of space, civilians are going to have to still keep building out this technology until it is opened up. It’s not going to be opened up immediately.
But, yeah, it’s going to probably be pretty frustrating for . . . But, you know, I think it would kind of wipe out a trip to Mars in a conventional rocket if they do announce, “Hey, we’re already there. We already have colonies there and we can get back and forth very quickly.”
Why invest in a trip there? So I think it would take the wind out of their sails.
Dr. Salla: Right. I imagine someone like Elon Musk that maybe he would have been very dismissive of this whole Secret Space Program genre then all of a sudden he comes across this Israeli scientist working or having worked at this top Israeli space institute who is talking about this stuff and secret bases.
I mean, mustn’t someone like Musk shift from that position or all this is just BS conspiracy theory. Holy cow! It’s real. This Secret Space Program stuff does have legs to it.
Corey: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it’s becoming more and more apparent that there’s a Secret Space Program. It’s becoming more and more apparent that extraterrestrials exist. And it’s just below the surface now in the mainstream.
Hopefully, with more announcements like this and work that we’re doing, we will be able to bring it out into the mainstream.
I’m working on doing that on a number of different levels, and the work that we’ve been doing is going to be seen as very important, I believe, in the next few years.
HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE SPACEX TO USE ANTI-GRAVITY INSTEAD OF ROCKETS?
Dr. Salla: Right. So what do you think of the likelihood that someone like Elon Musk can do a quick turnaround rather than . . . because he’s built up his SpaceX industry and they’re now doing rocket launches for NASA and for Space Force and for the NRO that Musk is doing this now.
As he learns more about this do you think he at some point will be briefed? Because imagine when he does receive an official briefing that he’ll say, “Well, yeah, why am I going to waste my time with methane or kerosene rockets when there’s this anti-gravity stuff?”
And with the Tesla car, he’s already been a pioneer in shifting us from fossil fuels to electric cars.
So couldn’t he do the same thing with rockets?
Corey: Yeah, and I believe that he’s working so closely with NASA now.
Once Space Force announces certain technologies, that’s going to slide right over to NASA, and NASA is immediately going to start using these technologies.
And NASA is going to use civilian contractors still to do these new technologies.
So Elon Musk could very well already be prepared to make that shift as far as we know.
From what I’ve been told, there are people that have worked around his organization that know quite a bit. And how much they’re sharing with him, I don’t know, but he at least has access to people that could give him this information.
Dr. Salla: I know he’s working very closely with Space Force. He’s given talks with them and he’s sending up satellites for Space Force.
But I know the Secretary of the Air Force, Barbara Barrett, has actually gone on the record to say that the Air Force needs to declassify a lot more technology.
So, some of the anti-gravity stuff could be slated for release soon. I know that Space Force is in this kind of 18-month setup period ending in May of 2021 that they’ve officially set up. And so they’re ready to go from there. Right now, they’re still consolidating and getting everything sorted out.
But by May 2021, I anticipate that they’re probably going to start getting briefings, or start getting the technologies, that Lockheed, Skunkworks and Phantomworks, Boeing, and whatever Northrop is building. They’re going to start getting briefings on this advanced technology that has been secretly built.
And Space Force is going to say, “Yeah, we want some of those and we’re going to deploy them,” and then things start to open up.
And maybe that’s why 2024 was set by President Trump as the target date for the return to the Moon because he anticipated or maybe his administration or people within it were planning to release this tech before then so that we have manned missions to the Moon again by 2024, because it wasn’t going to happen with the constellation rocket, that’s for sure, because that’s a white elephant.
People are asking, “How could America get back to the Moon by 2024?”
Corey: Yeah, using existing technology that’s secret.
Dr. Salla: Right.
NEW TECHNOLOGIES TO BE RELEASED
Corey: So, yeah, I think that in the next four years, from what I was told about Space Force, was: Yes, they were going to start releasing these technologies. It’s going to be done very similarly to how the stealth planes were done. We’re going to . . .
Around air bases, people are going to see white orbs that disappear and then a triangle is there or another type of craft, and then they’ll see it descending down into an air base in Germany or somewhere else.
People will get some video and pictures of it. It’ll be on the Internet for a while. People will talk about: “Oh, I saw an orb and I saw a triangle at this location.”
And then it’ll start coming more and more into the consciousness. And then just like they did with the Stealth Bomber and fighter, you’ll see one flying in plain view. It’ll be on the news. They’ll talk about this new wonderful technology and how it’s really . . . It just makes sense if you think about it, you know, how this technology works. It’s just amazing that it wasn’t . . . it hadn’t come out before.
It’s going to be done in a really exciting kind of way.
I’ve been told it was going to be done kind of slowly going over the next four years if Trump had a next administration.
WHO WILL BE WORKING WITH ETs IN THE FUTURE?
Dr. Salla: So just kind of shifting tracks back to this kind of like reorganized Super Federation that’s going to take charge of Earth affairs, what do you know is going to happen from the perspective of the ETs or the Galactic Federation or this Super Federation, or what was a Super Federation?
Who’s liaising with the ETs now? Who’s doing the talks, and where are we heading?
Corey: It’s still all of the same people. Deep State people are still in contact with ET groups. The ETs will work with whoever’s in control and try to work to get other people in control.
These same negative ET groups that we would call the Reptilians are still down here interacting with the Deep State. They’re obviously losing more and more power or . . . people are waking up to their power more and more every day.
We also still have Nordic groups, Anshar-type groups, different types of ETs that are coming in trying to assist us in a positive way.
And then we also have many, many other ET groups that just want us to get our act together so they can engage with commerce and exchange of culture, because it’s pretty open out there, and we’re in a little bubble right now, and there are a lot of these civilizations that would like to interact with us and get to know us better.
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S RECENT PERSONNEL CHANGES
Dr. Salla: One of the things that President Trump did recently was he sacked 11 members of the Defense Policy Board, and that included people like Henry Kissinger, Madeleine Albright, Gary Roughead, the former Chief of Naval Operations.
So it looked like he was trying to change something pretty major that was . . . They had a lot of influence behind the scenes.
And I know Henry Kissinger, as far as I can tell, he’s been involved in the whole Deep State, extraterrestrial, global management system for decades now.
So by Trump sacking these people, is he really trying to shake things up, maybe open up negotiations with more positive extraterrestrials groups, saying, “Hey, these Reptilians” or these negative groups, “they don’t have as much power as they once did. So, come to me and let’s make some deal.”
Corey: You know, there could be that aspect to it because of some of the people like Henry Kissinger, who we know are directly involved with Reptilians and other groups.
The briefings I had received was that this was more about taking away what they call “Deep State control” of the Department of Defense and certain Special Forces groups that were being misused by this think tank or however you want to describe it, and that they moved the control of Special Forces back over directly to the Secretary of Defense.
I think it had to do more with also getting in a position to where the DoD wasn’t going to block some of the efforts he may take as next steps if he doesn’t win in the Supreme Court with the election stuff, which I really don’t want to get into on this video too much.
Dr. Salla: Yes. Yes.
Corey: I think it had more to do with that scenario.
THE PUBLIC WILL BE INCREASINGLY HUNGRY FOR INFORMATION
Dr. Salla: Okay. So, overall then, this development with Professor Eshed, I know it’s going to really have a big impact on working professionals who are now going to take a second look at all of this literature.
So I think it’s going to kind of like increase demand for people like yourself and myself who have been doing this kind of research and disclosure.
So, what do you think lies ahead?
Corey: Well, I think that what you said times a thousand when it comes to this information. It’s going to be . . . The public is going to be hungry for it.
We have more and more of this information coming out. I mean, we have just people in their everyday life that are seeing things that don’t make sense that are going on in the world, and that certain conspiracies bear a little bit of merit.
So they’re starting to look at these so-called “conspiracy theories”, you know, conspiracy theory about aliens genetically manipulating the planet. I mean, come on, you know. For the mainstream, that’s crazy.
But now, look at . . . The information’s out there.
So, yeah, like I said, I think our information right now in Hollywood, these topics are extremely popular, esoteric, you know, in general.
- SALLA HAS FIVE BOOKS PUBLISHED ON THE SECRET SPACE PROGRAM
There are many other ways like, you know, I think when this information comes out, you know, your books . . . How many do you have? Five now, or is it more on the Secret Space Program?
Dr. Salla: Five on the Secret Space Program series. [I have] another one in the pipeline.
Corey: Yeah, and those books may become required reading in universities or at least quoted from heavily at some point, you know.
People will start searching these terms, keywords, and more and more people are going to start coming to our work, and I already see it.
I’m seeing subscribers growing, more emails coming in from people that have seen me on, like, Jenny McCarthy or somewhere else more mainstream and not niche.
So interest is growing and I think that the information that we’ve been putting out there is going to be some of the most popular information around here within a few years.
Dr. Salla: Right. I’m enjoying it at the moment, you know, in terms of just connecting all the dots, all of these Secret Space Program revelations that you’ve been doing and others have been revealing for a few years now.
And now with these official acknowledgments and a lot of the documentation that’s coming out, I think that’s just going to be really exciting for anyone that’s trying to put together the big puzzles.
So, yeah, and that for me has always been interesting is, like, you know, what is the big picture? How do all of the pieces of the puzzle fit together?
And now we’re able to fit together the pieces of the puzzle a lot more.
WE MAY HAVE A STAR TREK FUTURE
I’m doing that now with my next book which is focusing on Space Force. I’m just going to do a whole book on Space Force: How it was set up and why it’s threatening the Deep State, and how it connects to kind of like Starfleet, because that’s one of the things that I think . . . well, Roddenberry’s vision of a Star Trek future. You’ve talked about that too a few times. The military wants the Star Trek future.
So, I was really amazed to see that in 2019 there was something called the Space Futures Workshop that was organized by Air Force Space Command, and that’s the predecessor to the Space Force.
And I was really amazed to see that they came up with eight scenarios and their preferred scenario was the Star Trek future. And I thought that was really interesting that why would they choose that?
Corey: Look at the symbol they chose.
Dr. Salla: Yeah. And this was before Space Force was set up that they actually . . . Its predecessor was saying that their preferred option for the future was a Star Trek future and then you have Space Force set up. You have the logos and all of the connections with Star Trek as it was envisaged.
To me it’s almost like back in the past in the ’50s and ’60s someone used time travel technologies and saw, “Okay, in the future we’re going to have something called Starfleet. So let’s start seeding the mass consciousness with that.” And Roddenberry was briefed.
And I talked about that in the Navy Secret Space Program book that Roddenberry was briefed.
PEOPLE’S EXPERIENCES IN THE “20-AND-BACK PROGRAM” CAN BLEED BACK INTO HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS
Corey: Let me blow your mind even more. The 20-and-Backs, all of the temporal travel that’s going on, you have to visualize it this way.
This is just picking dates out of the air.
Let’s say in 2036, Space Force develops the technology to travel back in time. Well, they’re traveling back in time and working with people back in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, pulling them up into 20-and-Backs, working with them in these temporal groups.
So that information, like the people going up and working in these 20-and-Backs and working off planet for Space Force that’s actually in the future are . . . this is going into their consciousness. So it kind of bleeds out in different ways.
So I think that there is a huge temporal part of this puzzle that a lot of people really aren’t paying enough attention to.
And when all of this does come out, it’s going to blow even the minds of people in ufology that have been covering . . . “I know about 58 different ET groups.” “I know about spacecraft that can fly between here and the Moon in a matter of minutes.” And they think they’ve got a good understanding.
But when all of it does come out, the temporal aspect of it is going to be the mind-blowing part.
COULD THE CREATOR OF STAR TREK HAVE BEEN IN A “20-AND-BACK PROGRAM”?
Dr. Salla: Right. So this pulling people out of historical epochs, the 1920s, ’30s, ’40s, and pushing them into this 20-year-and-Back Program, that whatever in the 2030s, 2040s, whatever, and after 20 years they get pushed back, well, that raises the question, “Could Gene Roddenberry have been in a 20-and-Back in the Dark Fleet of the future?”
Corey: Yeah, that’s my question too.
Dr. Salla: Okay. Well, that’s an interesting one.
Corey: Or he was influenced by someone who was.
Dr. Salla: Well, I know he was actually directly influenced by Leslie Stevens, who was the director of “The Outer Limits”. “The Outer Limits” was run by Leslie Stevens and he ran that from ’64 to ’66, [1963-1965] I think was the last season.
And Gene Roddenberry sat in on the second season of “The Outer Limits”.
Now, in the Navy Secret Space Program book, I actually talk about Leslie Steven’s father, who was the vice admiral. He was the guy that worked directly with Rico Botta in setting up the Navy Secret Space Program.
So the son of Admiral Stevens was the guy that introduced – inspired or introduced – Gene Roddenberry to a lot of these ideas.
So it’s quite possible that maybe Leslie Stevens was one of these people pulled out and served in the 20-and-Back Program because Leslie Stevens didn’t just influence Gene Roddenberry with Star Trek, he also influenced Glenn Larson who came up with the “Battlestar Galactica” series originally in the, what was it, the ’70s.
Corey: Wow! “Battlestar Galactica” plays into the whole AI threat.
Dr. Salla: Exactly. So, that would make sense that Leslie Stevens was most probably part of the 20-and-Back Program because his father was working for the Navy as a vice admiral. His father was actually head of a joint intelligence organization set up by the Pentagon.
So Leslie Stevens, the Vice Admiral, was in charge of that.
So if there was a 20-and-Back Program, and that people in the US military back in the ’40s and ’50s were aware of that and saying, “Okay, you can take this guy or that guy.”
That maybe they said, “Okay, take my son, Leslie Stevens. Put him back and put him in the 20-and-Back Program in the future.”
And then Leslie Stevens does the soft disclosure, because, you know, “The Outer Limits”, if you look at the episodes of that, I think they ran for two seasons, but there’s a lot of episodes in there talking about the different advanced technologies that were being used.
Like there’s one episode called, “OBIT . . .”, what is it, “Outer Band Individuation Teletracer”, which is all about tracking people at any time through their resonant frequencies and find out what they’re doing.
And this is an “Outer Limits” episode. So this is advanced tech that was being developed at the time.
So, Leslie Stevens was kind of like seeding the mass consciousness with these advanced technologies, inspiring Roddenberry to do something on a Galactic Confederation on planets in the future, Starfleet, then Glenn Larsen and “Battlestar Galactica”.
So, yeah, I’d say this was probably how it was done.
Corey: You make an interesting argument.
UPCOMING EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES
Dr. Salla: Yeah, wow!
So what can we expect from you in the future?
Corey: Ah, well, let’s see. I’ve got a lot of things going on. The graphic novel is finally on track to finish. It’s turning out very amazing. It’s going to go on pre-sale again here very soon.
You can get it at www.disclosurecomics.com – get on the mailing list. I mean, it’ll go live very soon.
And I do believe that this comic, this graphic novel, is going to be a major collector’s item, especially the pre-edition, the pre-release edition, because we’re taking this as a storyboard into Hollywood.
We have interest here and there on bringing this to a movie or a series.
We’re definitely not going to have a problem getting a docu-series of some sort going on on a channel somewhere that will be seen by many, many millions more people, which will bring people more to our community.
So we have that going down. My online course, “The Blue Avians and the Law of One”, is going to start on January 9.
You can find all of this at www.ascensionworks.tv and you can also find my old course there.
And hopefully next year, www.ascensionworks.tv is going to launch. It’s going to . . . I’m working with Mike Waskosky quite a bit on it. We’re hoping to make it a new sort of social media platform as well as a place to come and watch videos like a Netflix or something like that.
We have a lot of people interested in doing shows for us, so it looks very good there.
I think those are the Number One things that are happening with me.
Maybe some of the people that are watching this video, because of this viral story that’s going around, it kind of sucks somebody new into this video, and they hear us talking about you wrote five books on the Secret Space Program. Where can they find out more information about those?
Dr. Salla: Okay. Well, they can go to my website: www.exopolitics.org or they can go to Amazon. Just type in my name or just type in “Secret Space Programs”. That comes up.
So there is a Secret Space Program series on Amazon that they can learn about.
So, yeah, just come to the website.
And, you know, I’m working on this Volume 6 in the series, and that’s tentatively titled, “The Space Force and The Rise of Starfleet”. I’m very excited that I’m getting close to finishing the first draft of that. So it will be ready sometime around March and April of next year.
And I’m going to be doing with John DeSouza and Laura Eisenhower with “Portal to Ascension” in January. I think it’s the first Saturday in January or something like that. I don’t have the date in front of me, but we’re going to be doing a kind of second Exopolitics and Ascension online webinar. [Note: Here is the link to the webinar: https://portaltoascension.org/event/ascension-exo-disclosure-2021 ]
So that’ll be something where hopefully there’s more clarity about what’s going on at the moment. But definitely, everything is pretty exciting.
And I’m going to be doing more webinars starting at the end of January and go right throughout 2021.
Corey: Very cool. Yeah, the webinars are a lot of fun. They’re a lot of fun and the community seems to love them.
Dr. Salla: Yeah. I love that you can go really deep into an issue and not get so caught up in time management. It’s like you have enough time to really kind of look at all of the facets of an issue.
MONOLITHS APPEARING AROUND THE GLOBE
Corey: Yeah. Well, before we wind this down, I wanted to ask you: Have you been paying attention to all of the weird monoliths popping up everywhere?
Dr. Salla: Yeah. I thought that was interesting. Someone seems to be . . . I think it was an artist because someone from the Leak Project went out there and took a look at one of these monoliths, and they saw rivets and all of that. So it was definitely a human artist who put it together.
So maybe it’s just an artist kind of like trying to attract people’s attention. But, like, totally, whether it’s just a human artist . . . I think it is just a human artist – I think it still . . . archetypally . . . it helps waken people up.
Corey: It DOES help waken people up. It does, but I just had the feeling from the beginning that it was some sort of like mass marketing gimmick campaign kind of thing.
But they started popping up in different countries and different states. There’s been a number of them now. It’s coordinated in some way, but it’ll be interesting to see why they’re doing this, but it’s definitely peaking a lot of curiosity.
Dr. Salla: Definitely.
Corey: Awesome. Well, you know, I think that covers everything that we wanted to discuss. It was pretty exciting when this group of news articles came out discussing this Galactic Federation and joint human-ET bases on Mars.
It’s very exciting for us, especially, because we’ve been talking about it for years, and we’re starting to see more and more come out publicly from both of our information, and I think it’s gratifying but at the same time we’re looking for more, right?
Dr. Salla: Exactly. But it certainly is nice to have that official acknowledgment, and I know in your case you’ve been getting a lot of flak. You have a lot of people out there trying to shoot you down, but I think that’s probably because you’re like right over the target and your testimony is now going to get a lot more attention.
So, I’m very glad to be working with you and putting all this information out.
Corey: Yeah, I appreciate it. You know, the Alliance has been talking to me lately about after all of these events occur, it’s time to start educating the populace. They’ve spoken to me about being involved in releasing media that would discuss the history of humanity.
And I look forward to being involved in that someday. And I know you and others in this community will be involved as well.
I really appreciate all the work that you’ve been doing over the last five years. You’ve been a very pragmatic person, not an emotional person. You’ve been a good loyal friend and you’re doing really great work when it comes to the Secret Space Program and introducing this topic to people. I mean, you’re a professor. You’re releasing this information in a non-sensational way. And I think what you’re doing is really important and I just wanted to say I appreciate the work that you’re doing.
Dr. Salla: Well, thank you, Corey. I’m looking forward to what the future brings to both of us.
Corey: It’s going to be exciting. It’s going to be exciting.
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Transcribed by Sam Ritchie
More interviews and articles featuring Corey Goode are available here.
Related article on Prof Haim Eshed’s revelation is available here
In a video interview released today, Corey Goode unpacks a series five tweets he released on August 16 where he shared new developments on secret military arrests, QAnon, a UFO disclosure war, a possible China coup, a rogue ballistic submarine that is part of a CIA “Dark Fleet”, and major disclosures to come in 2021 of an SSP also called the “Dark Fleet” originally created by a breakaway group of German nationalists in Antarctica. In the interview, Goode responds to my questions about the resumption of informal briefings he has begun receiving again from reliable sources in the intelligence community after a lapse of more than a year, along with what we can expect in the future.
To read Corey Goode’s series of five tweets go to my August 17 article analyzing them, “Insider Reveals UFO & Secret Space Program Disclosure War”
For more articles on Corey Goode’s Secret Space Program Disclosures click here.
Michael Salla, Ph.D.
The first two segments of a four part audio interview series with JP, who has been releasing photos of flying triangles, flying rectangles, flying saucers and other antigravity craft witnessed in the vicinity of MacDill Air Force Base, Tampa, and Orlando, Florida, is now available on ExoNews TV.
JP is a contactee who has had contacts with human looking “Nordic” extraterrestrials since 2008. In addition to ongoing contact experiences with the Nordics, he has also had experiences with a U.S. Air Force run secret space program that has been taking him aboard flying triangles and rectangles.
What makes JP stand out among many contactee/insider claims is that he has taken stunning photos of the craft that he has been taken aboard, and/or belonging to the Nordics. In some cases, JP was encouraged by personnel associated with USAF Special Operations to take photos of their antigravity vehicles.
In Part 2 (released today) we learn from JP how he began releasing photos of flying triangles he witnessed near MacDill AFB, Tampa, Florida, in August 2017, after being prompted to do so from unknown covert personnel. Soon after Hurricane Irma appeared and reached Category 5 on the hurricane scale, and made a beeline for MacDill, which led to its first ever evacuation and closure.
According to JP’s sources, Irma was retaliation for the USAF Special Operations Command making its fleets of antigravity craft known to the general public.
In Part one (released on March 30) we learn about how JP’s contacts began during his early childhood, and resumed in 2008 where he encountered Nordics for the first time. He soon after began communicating his experiences with me and I have kept a record of his encounters and began writing a series of articles on them in September 2017 .
To learn more about JP and the photos he has taken of antigravity craft go to: http://exopolitics.org/jp-articles-photos-videos/
Michael E. Salla, Ph.D.
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[Special Note: JP recently lost his job after he began sharing his photos with more members of the general public, after repeated warnings of not to do so by personnel associated with the CIA. He has been pressured to join the U.S. military in order to resolve his financial problems, but has resisted since it would impact his ability to share his startling experiences with the public.
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On August 9, 2016, Corey Goode and David Wilcock discussed new video testimony of Clifford Stone regarding his 22 year military career in a highly classified program involving UFO crash recoveries and extraterrestrial communications. The Cosmic Disclosure episode featured a recently recorded video interview with Stone that discussed how he was recruited into the covert program run by the US Air Force, while serving with the US Army (transcript here).
A companion biographical video was simultaneously released with details about his background. The Stone interviews provide important corroborating information about Corey Goode’s claims of serving as an intuitive empath for multiple Secret Space programs involving extraterrestrial communications from 1987 to 2007.
Another whistleblower claiming to have worked in a classified military program as an intuitive communicator with extraterrestrial civilizations is Dan Sherman, who worked in the USAF and National Security Agency as an electronics communications expert for 12 years. I compared the background and covert training of Stone and Sherman in a 2007 research paper. Both Stone and Sherman’s background and covert training has important similarities with Goode’s own experiences.
What follows is an updated repost of a 2005 article discussing my interview with Stone which provides additional information about his covert program, along with links to a transcript of the two part interview which was published in the inaugural 2006 edition of the Exopolitics Journal. Stone described how he would travel to UFO crash retrieval sites in order to telepathically communicate with any extraterrestrial survivors and administer First Aid according to a medical guidebook for 57 extraterrestrial races.
This dovetails with Goode’s claims that between 40-60 extraterrestrial races are involved in 22 long-term genetic experiments on Earth. More correlations between Goode and Stone’s testimony is discussed in the August 9 Cosmic Disclosure episode and future interviews featuring Clifford Stone.
Michael E. Salla, Ph.D.
An Interview With Clifford Stone: The EBE Guidebook*
[Repost with updated links] On July 20, 2005 I completed a phone interview with Sgt Clifford Stone (ret) who discussed at length his involvement in UFO crash retrieval teams during his 22 year military service from 1968-1990. Sgt Stone served in the U.S. Army and claims he was covertly recruited into an elite UFO retrieval team due to his natural ability to interface with extraterrestrial biological entities (EBEs). He claims that he was picked out during his childhood by the U.S. military and had an Air Force Captain regularly visit him on a weekly basis who encouraged Sgt Stone in pursuing his interest in UFOs, and eventually influenced his decision to join the military. Upon joining the military Stone found himself starting a very untypical military career.
Stone says he was initially given training at a Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Warfare facility at Fort Ft. McClellan, Alabama, and then given regular army assignments until called away to perform his crash retrieval duties when required. Stone claims that when required for UFO retrievals he was typically called out to serve for a week. He says that his army service record was distorted to exclude references to his actual training and assignments, and refers to him only performing clerical duties as a typist. Like many whistleblowers, there is controversy over inconsistencies between his testimony and lack of documentary evidence to verify his alleged training and actual service.
The strongest objective support for his claims of having worked in covert UFO retrieval projects is the extensive documentation he has provided to support the existence of covert UFO crash retrieval teams. He was able to use very specific Freedom of Information Acts requests to uncover information disclosing the existence of classified projects such as Moon Dust and Blue Fly that were created to recover debris of UFOs.
For example, in reviewing a Air Force Intelligence letter known as the Betz memo (1961), Sgt Stone was able to reveal to the general public evidence that Project Moon Dust involved a: “potential for employment of qualified field intelligence personnel on a quick reaction basis to recover or perform field exploitation of unidentified flying objects (source).
Even strong critics such as Captain [now Major] Kevin Randle (USAF, ret) acknowledge Stone’s pioneering research in bringing to the public information concerning UFO crash retrieval teams (source). In the preface to Stone’s book, UFOs are Real (1997), another critic, Stanton Friedman, acknowledges Stone’s efforts in bringing into the public arena many documents never before published.
The fact that Stone was able to ferret out the existence of such classified projects despite previous denial of their existence by various military and government authorities, supports his testimony that he had first hand knowledge of these classified projects. Furthermore, these documents support his testimony that he had tried to make available for the public record sufficient information so he would not be punished for revealing the classified information he had personally acquired during his service on these projects.
As many have pointed out, the disclosure of classified information involves severe penalties, especially for whistleblowers for the UFO phenomenon that appear to run the most risk of adverse penalties in disclosing such information (source). Stone catalogued in UFOs are Real numerous documents he had been able to retrieve by FOIA even during his years of military service. Consequently, Stone’s pioneering documentary research into UFO crash retrievals is strong support for his testimony of actually having served on such teams during his military service.
Stone claimed in the interview that during his military service he was monitored by an individual whose rank he was never told but whom he called ‘Colonel’. The Colonel was present at UFO crash retrieval locations and led the debriefing sessions of Stone. He claims that the Colonel allowed him to read a three inch thick notebook manual that contained information on 57 types of extraterrestrial biological entities (EBEs) known to the military.
Stone first saw the “EBE Guidebook” in 1979 and claims that it contained much information on each of group of EBEs in terms of their physiology, food requirements and medical information. He claims he could read the Guidebook when he was serving on the retrieval teams up until 1989. Stone says that the Guidebook was to be used in case First Aid had to be administered to any EBEs found at crash sites. In the interview, he gave the example of Iodine which can be administered for first aid purposes, but can be deadly for some EBEs.
As a whistleblower, there continues to be intense debate over Stone’s testimony and the veracity of his claims. Some of these debates have occurred with critics such as Randle who has also personally interviewed Stone and did not believe him to be credible (source ). Randle’s main criticism is that Stone’s military record only refers to him being trained as a clerk typist. Randle doesn’t accept Stone’s argument that the clerical training on his military record was only a cover for his specialized training in specialized units such as the Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Warfare training facility.
If Stone was only ever a typist, as Randle suggests, then it would be hard to explain how a clerk typist would have knowledge of classified projects such as Moon Dust and Blue Fly that prior to Stone’s successful FOIA requests, were officially denied to exist. Stone’s successful FOIA requests of documents describing classified projects, gives credence to his claims that he had first hand knowledge of these classified projects, and was very likely involved with Projects Moon Dust and Blue Fly as a crash retrieval specialist.
In my interview Stone comes across as very meticulous in his statements, very clear about the information he is revealing, and refuses to speculate on subjects he did not directly experience. The information he provided in the interview was very consistent with earlier interviews conducted by other investigators such as Paola Harris one of which is available online.
Furthermore, Stone had no desire to gain financial profit for his evidence or appeared in any way to be a publicity seeker. He came across as an individual of great integrity desiring to let the American public learn the truth about UFOs and the extraterrestrial hypothesis (ETH) that these are interplanetary spacecraft.
My overall conclusion is that Stone is very credible due to the meticulous nature of his testimony, the consistency in his story, his obvious integrity, and because of the documents he has been able to provide demonstrating the existence of elite UFO crash retrieval teams under the classified Moon Dust and Blue Fly projects.
In terms of a range of ‘soft’ and ‘hard’ criteria to analyze the veracity of whistleblower testimony, Stone ranks very highly both because of his personal integrity and the documents he was able to provide in support of his testimony. The documentary evidence Stone provided of classified projects he allegedly served on, also supports perhaps the most controversial aspect of his testimony that his own military records were altered so as to not reflect his actual training and duties.
The most remarkable aspect of my July 20 interview is the information Sgt Stone claimed existed in the EBE Guidebook. This has very important exopolitical significance that I wish to now elaborate upon. The alleged EBE Guidebook describes the physiological characteristics of 57 types of EBEs. This suggests extensive knowledge was likely gained through a number of sources: UFO crash retrievals; EBE visitations; and/or cooperation with some EBEs who were aware of other EBEs visiting the Earth.
The compilation of such a guidebook suggests a very well coordinated and funded research program exists in the classified projects involving EBEs and ETVs. Such a detailed study gives support to the existence of an Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit that was allegedly created in 1942 to study the UFO phenomenon. The Majestic Documents website includes references and reports by such a unit on EBEs and UFOs which are available online.
The implications of the existence of an ‘EBE Guidebook’ is startling since it suggests that the covert government agencies and military departments dealing with UFOs have long since resolved the truth of the extraterrestrial hypothesis (ETH). The ETH has been demonstrated to be very real, and covert military departments and government agencies have progressed far in cataloguing and analyzing different EBEs. It is also likely that such agencies have developed a very sophisticated analysis of the motivations and activities of EBEs that go far beyond any analysis available in the public arena (source).
In terms of a coordinated national security response by the U.S. authorities, it is very likely that a very detailed strategic analysis of many EBE groups in terms of their motivations, technologies and strategic capacities has already been conducted.
The strategic response is likely to be based on a multiple actor analysis of geo-politics and the involvement of different EBE groups with multiple agendas and capacities. This geo-political analysis is therefore very likely to lead to a ‘balance of power’ analysis of the multiple EBE groups and how various nation states may achieve their strategic goals in response to visiting EBE groups. My own earlier analysis of a hypothetical power politics approach to dealing with EBEs and the ETH is therefore more likely have merit due to the extensive number of EBE groups known to be interacting with humanity.
My own conclusion as an exopolitical researcher is that we have only scratched the surface of what is known by government agencies and military departments about EBEs, their motivations and associated technologies. This suggests that if exopolitical researchers are to influence government policy in how information on EBE groups and ETH is to be disseminated into the public arena, that there needs to be more appreciation of the extensive knowledge gained over five decades of covert research on EBEs and the government response.
This knowledge has been used to develop a strategic response to the multiple EBE groups visiting Earth which implies disclosure of the truth of the ETH would somehow damage the strategic goals of military departments and government agencies responsible for a coordinated national security response. It is therefore up to exopolitical researchers to come up with a persuasive strategic reason for why disclosure not only benefits the public interest, but also appreciably strengthens the national interest of the U.S. and other major nations aware of the truth of the ETH.
The full transcript of the July 20, 2005, interview with Clifford Stone is available in the inaugural edition of the Exopolitics Journal.
* I wish to thank Paola Harris who kindly contacted Sgt Stone to arrange my interview with him.
In July and August this year, successive conferences will be held at Mount Shasta focusing on Extraterrestrial Contact and Secret Space Programs. The organizer of the events, Rob Potter, has been working for nearly four decades with different contactees in the USA, and, more recently, South America. He has a wealth of experience about whos who in the field of benevolent extraterrestrial contact.
What follows is the transcript of an interview I did with Rob on June 17 about why he decided to organize these two conferences, what attendees can expect, who the speakers are, and what they will be presenting.
As one of the featured speakers, I also touch upon some of the material I will be discussing about secret space programs and how credentialed whistleblowers like William Tompkins are now appearing, who substantiate what has been previously disclosed, and the connection with extraterrestrial contact.
Robs conferences in the pristine wilderness of Mt Shasta offer a very rare opportunity for participants to hear cutting edge information about extraterrestrial life and secret space programs, while being able to relax in magnificent surroundings.
Also, there is always the unexpected opportunity such surroundings provide for contact to occur in unique ways, as is suitable for each participant if they are ready for it!
Most want open contact with extraterrestrial life and full disclosure of secret space programs to occur. These two conferences are a step in that direction and I hope you can support them by attending and/or letting others know.
Michael E. Salla, Ph.D.
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Rob Potter Interview with Dr. Michael Salla
June 17, 2016
Transcribed by Sam Ritchie
Dr. Michael Salla: Rob, you are organizing an event at Mt. Shasta for a Bolivian contactee, Luis Mostajo Fernando, in July [29-31]. So why have you decided to work with South American contactees?
Rob Potter: Well, I have to tell you from a very early age when I first found out about things in the UFO field in the 1978, ’79 era, when Fred [Bell] started talking more about the UFO experiences, I heard about the Great White Brotherhood. And I was in contact with George Hunt Williamson, and he had a group in Peru that was talking about the Inner Retreats, the Great White Brotherhood, and I actually had correspondence and they had an invitation, and my heart and soul wanted to go there, but I was 19 or 20 or something, and I could really even muster plane fare down there. It just called to me.
So when I heard about Luis Maertens, and actually through you had some contact your feedback and your article with him really inspired me. And I went down last summer and met Luis and it was absolutely incredible.
We went to this hot springs called Urmirri, which is kind of an Outer Retreat of the Great White Brotherhood and my summer group had a contact/ sighting there. I just feel his message is so humble. There’s no looking for any type of fame or attention. He’s absolutely the genuine real deal, and reminds me very much of Frank Stranges, another Venusian contactee of Commander Valiant Thor, which is a little more business oriented.
Luis is all heart and he explains a lot of stuff. He has repeated physical contact with not only Venusians, but Tau Ceti, Alpha Centauri and the Pleiades physical contacts.
He has, like Corey, been put into a Blue Sphere in Machu Picchu, many years ago, where he was transferred to Ganymede portal, the Jupiter portal, which is a major Confederation training center and contact. He has been to the Inner Retreats of the Great White Brotherhood in the mountains of Illampu, down there, in what’s called The Temple of Purity.
He has also been several times to meet the Master Soromez, who is one of the ancient Atlantean masters, 40,000 years old, who is the primary caretaker of one of the Golden Discs of the Sun. There may be more. But there’s one down there that’s very important.
And I just absolutely adore him. He came to Hawaii this winter and people just gave him a standing ovation. He really revealed the divine feminine in his presentation.
I want his message to get out to the public. That’s why he’s coming, because he’s a real contactee and his information doesn’t go into anything at all in regards to cover-up, government stuff. It’s all positive.
Dr. Salla: Yes, it’s fascinating that he has had for a number of years now these experiences, and he’s reported getting into these devices that are similar to the Blue Spheres that Corey Goode’s been talking about. Luis and the other South Americans call them Xendras, [link] but effectively it does something very similar to what Corey’s described. So it just shows that there is a real continuity here between what different contactees are experiencing.
Rob: Yeah, it’s like a plasma scalar, or some sort of field portal, and it’s blue. So it seems Corey’s not the first person to be traveling in blue orbs spheres.
Dr. Salla: Exactly. One of the things that I found fascinating with Luis when I read his material and learned about his contact experiences was how he first met these extraterrestrials from the Galactic Confederation and he mentioned they have a base on Ganymede, one of the moons of Jupiter.
And he said that one of these beings, actually one of these extraterrestrials, facilitated his contact with this ascended master or master of wisdom, whatever you want to call him, Soromez, from one of the ancient civilizations.
And I thought it was really peculiar, but [it’s] not the first time that I’ve come across this where extraterrestrials actually introduce contactees to these masters of wisdom who are indigenous to our planet. And it strikes me as really strange. Why is it that we as a species aren’t ready to meet these ascended beings from our own world and we need to have extraterrestrials, off-world visitors, kind of do the introduction.
Rob: Well, I think that it may not be necessary in every case, but I think in Luis’s particular contact, he also had contact with Oaxcl. He’s a Venusian and he’s been to Venus too, but I think for me, when I look at this, it confirms for me the greater plan and the unity of the benevolent races.
It goes back, again, to the quarantine. And this has to do with several things. One is, you know, most civilizations live on the interior, according to Valiant Thor, other worlds. And if you’re on the surface, you can be exposed to radiation. And it seems as though that certain historical events and our misuse of nuclear power have kind of denigrated our DNA, as well as what we call the quarantine, where . . . I don’t know what to call them other than evil. Some people call them hostile forces. I don’t want to go into religious stuff, but let’s just say, I would concur with Cobra that we’re being kind of held hostage and that the benevolent forces are absolutely dying to communicate with us and to embrace us once again into the greater galactic family, but due to the hostile, bellicose nature of not only the government, but kind of humanity’s misled reality, has created a situation for them that open contact with us would not be safe for them or for us at this time .
And there is required a certain level of maturity that when they introduce themselves to us, the technology has to come. We’ve already got it in the hands of a small elite crew in the Secret Space Nazi International Corporate Conglomerate Program that are misusing this. They’re using it for their own power, their own aggrandizement, and there is a lack of respect for the surface population and what we are. They call us ‘useless eaters’.
We are still taking oil out of the ground in greed. We are not quite ready for that technology. And they want to give it to us, but it has to be done in a proper way and we cannot be misusing it. We must be trained in the universal laws of Ubuntu, like we are our brothers keeper. We have a law of allegiance; a law of allowance that provides for freewill. You can do what you want as long as other people are not hurt.
So we have to kind of mature or ripen in wisdom as a people. I think they could contact us immediately and begin this process, but the mass media, people’s ignorance, superstition and fear, are some of the reasons, but I think primarily, it has to do with the safety of the surface population. As you know, Michael, in the past many people were murdered for the information that Corey’s is getting out and many are still working behind the scenes.
And god bless the military and the Secret Space Program guys. They are doing their best as they see it from their military viewpoint.
So we do have contact directly. It doesn’t have to be an ET contact, but we do have contacts directly with ascended masters. It’s historical visions of like over Egypt the Coptic Church of the Ascended Master Mary during a time of great strife between the Coptic Christians and the Muslim. Mary appeared over the most famous Coptic Church in Egypt. I actually visited there near Luxor and the apparition sighting managed to calm the tensions down. It was kind of a mystical light appearance to calm the ignorance of religious intolerance. So that’s a female ascended master showing. We also have other ones as well.
I’ll say this. The inner earth group called The Great White Brotherhood, from my understanding, was formed about 10,000 years ago, and was part of this 40-race group that came here to really try to clean up the Earth’s hostile environment and to begin what’s called the Rahma Mission of direct contact with the masses.
Normally, they contact the world through their governance, but our governance is corrupt. So they’ve decided to do what’s called the Rahma Mission and that’s contacting individuals like Frank Stranges, you know, any individual contactee, Alex Collier, Fred Bell, Frank Stranges, could probably fall under that individual contactee umbrella that is bringing the messages directly to the people. And so many more now. It’s really just increasing.
Dr. Salla: Luis, Ricardo Gonzalez, Sixto Paz Wells, and other South American contactees, emphasize spiritual exercises and personal transformation as a key for extraterrestrial contact and understanding of what UFOs are all about. So how does that mesh with the more scientific tradition in North America, especially the U.S., of relying on physical evidence to understand what’s happening with UFOs?
Rob: Yeah, I would have to say maybe it doesn’t mesh with the scientific minded orientation that is materialistically oriented . It’s coming from One. But I think we do have to have both. I mean, the way we are in our consciousness and the way we think with the one sided approach of dualistic material. And that’s kind of where we’ve gone is in limited view that can only be proven by materialistic scientific means.
We have made science our god and we don’t allow faith or intuition. Science only takes you so far. There’s only . . a close-ended never ending cycle. Intellect [and logic] are steps on an endless ladder and throughout the materials world you will never end your learning or growing in intellectual awareness, but wisdom, and spiritual experience, comes from the soul.
And the science of the soul is learning about the ancient knowledge, which is galactic and human . . . We have a historical human aspect to the spiritual development, but it’s been hidden. It’s been attacked. The people involved in it have been burned at the stake and ostracized, so there have been what are called mystery schools or occult, which simply means hidden, just like the Jesuits and the breakaway civilizations which are self serving in their secrecy. The lineages of Light have been forced to keep their teachings more or less secret out of a need for safety and to be free from persecution through out the ages.
And these teachings are available. For one who seeks, one can learn these teachings. For me, through Fred Bell, I came in through the spiritual. I was looking for communion with spirit. And the true nature of the self, who we are and where we came from. And he led me to Alice Bailey, which some people find controversial, Madame Blavatsky, and, of course, Manly Hall’s book and also the first important book he told me to read was The Autobiography of the Yogi.
And this book very clearly unified the universal Christ in all religions and that’s where I came from in my search for truth. And I was thinking, personally I thought, back then that we have to get rid of technology. It’s a mess. We need to go back to the Native American ways and become very close with the land. And we can sacrifice some of our toxic comfort that we’ve created for a harmonious non-invasive spiritual connection of family that we would have.
There are different principles that are involved in that. So I came to it through that and then when I started having my out-of-body-experiences with the Pleiadians, and the contact experiences, it was very inter-dimensional and very hard to process intellectually.
They showed me some things and I was like, Ah-h-h. We CAN be spiritual and harmonious with nature. And we can time travel and live with abundance, prosperity and very high technology.
So it became apparent to me that they can be fused. So it’s wisdom. And one of the teachings of the Hindus is called the Jnana and the Bhakti. The Jnana is the intellectual process of realizing God and having everything together. And Bhakti is the devotional or faith-based aspect, where all you do is pray and chant and sing and dance and commune with spirit through your heart and feelings.
They say that in the end the Bhakti must become the Jnani and the Jnani must become the Bhakti. We must fuse our wisdom and experience with our intellectual side. The other thing we have to realize is that not everything can be explained. There are unknowable things and yet we can connect to this vast wisdom this pool of omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence.
Through our own living flame, or the word of God, that lives within us, which some people call the Atman there’s different names for this direct connection. The soul, the essence of who we are is part and parcel of everything. We’re a holographic reflection. And if we can connect to that, then we can intuitively know we don’t intellectually think about every action, but we’re just choosing the proper course of wisdom and love in our daily actions through our accumulated ability, awareness, to connect to the universal Source.
So wisdom and love, intuition and faith, are just as important as the scientific things. So I think you can come at it from both ways and eventually the intellect has to succumb to the greater reality on a certain level.
Dr. Salla: Right. I agree that there has to be some balance between the two and I like the way you approach it. And so you’ve met a number of U.S. contactees. You mentioned Fred Bell. So have you found that there are differences between the South American contactees and the North American contactees?
Rob: I wouldn’t say particularly in general. I think the Southern American contactees, Luis Fernando Mustojo Maertens I love that he’s got four names and you’ve got Sixto Paz Wells, Ricardo Gonzalez, primarily that I know of. I’m sure there are others, but these gentlemen have been contacting the same individuals under the umbrella of the same mission and been getting a lot of similar information.
So in that sense, they’re very similar.
The Venusian, Valiant Thor, has several contacts. Dr. Frank Stranges is one of the only public figures I know. I know the names and individuals of some others that were on what is called the Council of Twelve from Dr. Frank. And there’s a gentleman in Switzerland that’s mentioned. But there contacts are very similar because they’re very spiritual oriented, although they do encompass world affairs and are observing what’s going on.
I met Daniel Fry back in the day. Gabriel Green was one of my greatest mentors. And he and the Bill Tompkins story we mentioned privately, Frank Chile my friend, what a great guy. I just love Frank. He was always so warm, always so enthusiastic, and he could just tell tale upon tale upon tale of benevolent space family contact.
Michael Elegion to a lesser extent. He’s had physical contact. He’s not directly permanently in contact, like Dr. Frank or Fred. And, again, you have Alex Collier, let’s see, Daniel Fry, Gabriel Green . . . Those are some of my primary teachers. Dr. Frank Stranges and Fred, and I did get to meet Alex personally some years ago. And then he’s come to my conference.
There’s a difference between a telepathic communication and a physical contactee that just has that real experience of that decontamination the process of going up and the communication and some of them on mother ships. It just leads to this absolute presence that you just look at them and you . . . you know, for people who intellectually look at them from a distance and that’s all hooey, as you know from your multiple contactee experiences and you have your own experience with Luis there where a ship came in on cue like with our group in South America.
We hope to have that happen at Shasta this summer, but there’s this presence. Would you agree that they just have this look in their eye and their stories don’t change, and it’s very powerful. I mean, I’ve had limited experiences and my stories don’t change. But I have not had that on-going face-to-face contact.
So I just have to say that the face-to-face ones are the most bona fide for me. I would say that most of them that I know of and I’m not talking about abductees, I just don’t go with the Travis Walton and the Whitley Strieber, bless them. But I’m not in to any Grey implant abduction scenarios left, right or center. I think that process needs to be clarified as a difference between face-to-face contact.
I think they’re all, almost every single one that I know, has been benevolent. I think they have their own perspectives and what their missions are with the Earth people. And they have their own approaches. And not every single one of them knows every bit of history of ever minutae on the Earth and many of those groups wh are contacting individuals don’t know what the other groups are doing with the other contactees!
So we have this . . . We don’t have a unified, blanket come down where every contactee says this and that and this and that. They all have a slightly different perspective on different things and are revealing different things.
But I would generally say that most of them come in peace with love in their hearts. And of these groups, I think the Venusians are pretty up there. The Pleiadians, you know, they have different historical things and what they revealed and what they don’t reveal and who they contact. You know, the Venusians are very, just generally, always extremely positive. And their civilization for some of them is based on the astral plane so they’re well above anybody from Planet X or the Pleiades or some of these physical civilizations. They’re in a higher dimension. They’re kind of beyond the physical plane already in a sense.
So it’s discernment and a processing things through our hearts. But I think if we look at the benevolent contacts, Sheldan Nidle, although he repeats a lot, my sources have indicated – one of my Venusian contacts indicated – he’s the real deal. And he has very positive intentions and I’m not sure about what he’s saying the intel. It seems kind of repetitive to me, but I know Sheldan personally and he’s a sincere, honest guy.
Dr. Salla: Yes, he’s been around for a long time, but I do like what you said about the difference between the contactees with benevolent extraterrestrials or those who’ve had friendly contact experiences the difference between that experience and those with telepathic communications.
You know, one of the things I’ve found with the contactees that I’ve met is that in their presence there’s this really beautiful, uplifting energy. It’s just that everyone gets lifted up to new possibilities and it really reminds me of being in ashrams or when you’re in the presence of very spiritually-evolved people that it really is something very special when you’re around these people and like you said, their eyes light up and it’s a wonderful experience.
And I’m not surprised that these people were chosen by the extraterrestrials for those kinds of qualities, because really they’re ambassadors. They’re galactic ambassadors.
Rob: Yes, I can tell you they all have personal problems, struggles, and they’re all not perfect and they deal with a lot of stuff. But at the end of the day, they subjugate to the mission and their spiritual connection is strong. But they have . . . They’ve gone through their doubts.
Fred used to say that it was very difficult to come back off the ship. So he switched pretty early on. He got to go to the planet Lyra in the Pleiades and he actually piloted the ship once over the Air Force base we stopped and he went up for a ride.
He didn’t like coming down like Alex Collier. You know, the famous quote Alex is getting off the ship. He’s crying. He doesn’t want to come back and I love this quote from I think it was Vyasis or Moranae, excuse me Alex if I err. whoever it was, but they said, Alex, the pain you carry is the love that you withhold.
And that’s a very high statement and easily said intellectually, adored, but to actually process that in a physical body and to really do that is not so easy. I could talk about love and light and understand the process and meditate as much as I can. And then there’s the human element where we all, not everyone maybe, not you, Michael, but we all I certainly fall short and I react. People attack me on the Internet and sometimes I just go . . . I respond . . . I probably shouldn’t and should just let it go.
Some people say I’m sending them, you know, porno. I can’t even create my own website. Me hacking stuff is ridiculous. But, you know, I take personal offense sometimes and I should not return anger with a snide comment. But we’re all human, so . . .
A lot of the contact experience is a tremendous burden and Luis’s really good at it. He’s always so light and loving. Dr. Frank was the same way just always full of joy and love for God and their eyes . . . It’s a powerful thing.
Dr. Salla: Right. So you’ve decided to hold the event with Luis at Mt. Shasta in July. And I then that’s going to be followed, I think a month later, with the Secret Space Program event at Mt. Shasta at the end of August. So why did you choose Mt. Shasta for the two summer conferences?
Rob: Well, for me, actually, my son was . . . I lived there in 1995 to kind of just get out of the rat race. I was a beach boy. I never thought I would get into this mountain living so much and Mt. Shasta I thought was a short trip, but I fell in love with the mountains. I’m a beach boy and now I’m a mountain man.
There’s something so powerful there. I had so many experiences with some close contacts and some energetic overshadowing. I lived in the unique location called Morningstar. And I was having a lot of, let’s say, ascended master and ET-type revelations there. And it’s a spiritual pilgrimage location due to the fact that there is one of the largest underground bastions of the Galactic Confederation, The Great White Brotherhood, is the Mt. Shasta and adjacent area complex.
They have never been breached. They are extremely loving and powerful and will play a very big part in the future for education of humanity.
I’ve lived there on and off for 20 years. I could never really support myself. My son was born there so I’d always go back and forth during the summer and run out of money and then go back to my healing work in Southern California. I just love it.
And I have great connections there. And it just kind of happened. I started small and I’m in my sixth conference, or seventh this summer with these two. I’ve been very careful and prudent not to overextend myself and they’ve been successful.
And the great thing about these conferences, as you know, Michael, the presenters are one thing, but it’s the energy. You’re meeting 150 people who are the black sheep, understanding the spiritual information, who have felt isolated with their inner understanding. Sometimes there are sightings and communications.
And here they get to go and everybody you see, almost everyone, is very positive. And they can share stories and reaffirm their knowledge that they’ve gathered, that others are assimilating the same process.
And, of course, we’re in the shadow of Mt. Shasta. James Gilliland, when he was coming, I mean, we were having light shows every night come on down. If you want to go out and watch UFOs.Power up! And do that kind of thing. You could see it.
And I just love Shasta. I think it’s a great environment. It’s a little pricey because people have to travel there plus the conference fees, but I think it’s well worth it. Lifetime relationships are established. We have a Facebook page and people keep in touch
There’s a sense that . . . I like to bring the spiritual aspect to it – the process of attaining wisdom, of meditation. And the mystical side of developing ourselves through understanding our – let’s call it our – esoteric anatomy of our glandular functions and how the process of contact can take place for us individually and to reaffirm that in a group setting. That’s one of the reasons I love it. Plus, it’s just darn beautiful.
Dr. Salla: Right. Yes, I know. I have been there last year at the event. The vibration is really wonderful. The people are great. And it’s very friendly and very open and I can’t help but think that this is the kind of environment for people that are attracted there would actually be something that would lead to some kind of physical contact.
Of course, you mentioned the Inner Earth civilization and, of course, extraterrestrial, or the flying saucer craft are seen directly there . We could imagine that there might actually be some contact, so do you think that this is one of the things that you would like to happen whether it’s at this conference or one of the future conferences that there would be a kind of contact event at your Mt. Shasta conference?
Rob: Well, I can tell you that Luis is famous for programmed contacts and that kind of contact is very possible this year. The Forest Service is giving us permission and I’m aligned with them. We’re not going to be going into any general public areas. We’re going to a non-disclosed location on a certain day at a certain time.
The second conference is more intellectual and we don’t have a contactee like Luis, who can literally bring them in, but we will stay on the property, which is very nice. So there’s a possible contact.
I’d like to say that in Dr. Frank Stranges meetings, I know for a fact I met two people from Venus there. They were telepathically communicating with me. They were from Venus, but I was kind of . . . One of them I was kind of having a cat and mouse thing. It was a girl, actually. My girlfriend at the time was jealous. Like, What the heck stop flirting with her ? I just shook my head. You can’t explain that kind of thing.
We had a dialect/telepathy and she kind of led me into certain areas of research. She was one on the cover of a famous picture of Valiant Thor. I believe they called her Jill. But she was in Dr. Frank Stranges inner circle meeting, and she just lit up the room, smiled at me. Every time I turned she just smiled like, Good for you, Rob. You figured me out. But don’t say anything and let’s just have our regular conversation. And that’s the way it was.
And there was another gentleman who initiated me in to the Order of Melchizedek, which is a thing and he wasn’t there for the two days. He came on the last day. He wasn’t there before lunch, but he was there from the after-lunch to the next break and then he was gone.
He had long blond hair to his shoulders. Extremely good looking a guy. And when it came to put all the members put their hand on the other members and there’s a prayer and I made a pledge and an invocation, and this guy put his hand on top of my head and he locked eyes with mine and I was kind of thinking, Oh, it’s this. I was kind of embarrassed. I had forgotten that I had signed up for it.
Something told me, Take this very seriously. And when he put his hand on my head, there were electrical currents. It was a very positive experience and I thought, I kind of want to find that guy after the thing, and they kind of blocked my remebering ability to do the Jedi mind-trick and blocked my mind and I couldn’t look for him.
They’re very much like us. I can promise there’s probably been an ET or two at my conferences. You’ll never know. It’s just not important that that be revealed at this time. But they’re watching these type of things especially with Luis, Alex, James. Of the guys that come to my conference, I think those guys have a very strong connection.
Cobra as well. You know, there’s a feeling that they’re watching these meetings very closely looking at people’s reactions to see who’s presenting, how it’s being presented, and if it’s coming off in a grounded way at the same time with a spiritual content. So there are contacts going on at these groups. I would say they’re not openly public, but who knows.
I would like . . . Maybe we’re with Luis, we’ll get one of those South American contacts he’s famous for where the UFO goes over the hill and three people have a contact. By the time the rest of the group gets there, they’re gone. But it could be very cool.
Dr. Salla: Yes. Why does information about Secret Space Programs have a catalyzing affect on people in the New Age and the UFO communities? People can’t seem to get enough of that information of these classified programs, so is that a sign of a global awakening?
Rob: Yeah, I think this, again, is coming from the research perspective, people are going to have felt a lot of the ETs is secret government stuff, which it has been, but I think that there is a . . . it’s more realistic for us to think about that. The revelations that they’re getting in regards to hyperspace and the science, the hard science, like on my website the Secret Space Program . . . If you click on that slider banner, there’s a gallery of photos.
I was contacted in 2011, by a guy who owned a company. And he gave me all these pictures of the technology. And you can see the advanced different technologies that they were using and lots that probably weren’t revealed. They showed little saucers and stuff.
I think people really understand now. They’re coming in through this government cover-up, the Nazi development of this technology, which goes to the mystics, the Thule Society, those women that started it with a spiritual intent and it got basically railroaded and hijacked. The contacts, all of a sudden, switched to the tall, long-nosed Greys and the hostile groups with the Hitler, you know, superior race vibe going on that really skewed the possible benevolent revelation that could have come forward at the time.
People are getting a little education and they’ll come in to the more spiritual positive elements once this dirty deeds, done dirt cheap-type of stuff that’s going on with the Secret Space Program, the Nazis, and that whole thing that’s been, you know, joining with the Dracos, allowing humans to be abducted and implanted, you know, the energetic loosh that David Wilcock talks about sucking people’s life force through fear of little children, pedophilia and murder for these Earth-based elitist . . . This stuff is so heinous, it’s just, you know, it’s hard to turn away, but it’s something that needs to be exposed.
I think the reason this is coming out now is humanity needs to understand this seamy underbelly so that we can expose it to the light of day and like a bit of mold, in the sunshine it will just dissipate and blow away. People will stop paying attention to these negative actions of the elitist criminals and simply un hook from The Matrix and the control system will be revealed for what it is and people will no longer . . . They’re going, you know what, I don’t care about my job at this point. I’m just fed up. I’m a slave. And they’re out and they’re making their own way.
So I think part of it is for humanity to gather traction into understanding the level of cover-up. I mean, if we take Corey Goode’s information, imagine the billions of dollars that have been made on pharmaceuticals. Imagine the pain and suffering that has gone into little children with cancer and all of these horrible diseases that people have had.
And the Venusians offered this to us in ’57. They said, We’re going to offer you help The Confederation wants to give you free energy, communication, transportation technology that kind of benevolent interaction, but you have to put away nuclear power and end all of your wars. That’s a prerequisite.
And they just said, Sorry, we’re not going to do it. We wouldn’t be in power. And they said, Yeah, give us your technology.
And they said, No, when we give it, we land and it goes to everyone.
And they said, Well, we’re already getting it from the Dracos, the Greys and Reptilians. Screw you. Stay away. You land and we’re going to hunt you down and kill you.
And some of the people in the military, who have been following this, many of them have been compartmentalized. Many of the higher Commander Bethune, Admiral Webster, . . . I forget some of the names, the main guys. They haven’t been happy with the cover-up, but the military mind likes secrecy and power and there’s an aspect of that that when they figured it out, it was so hard . . . Who are you going to take out, because it wasn’t a political person.
The presidents and the people in the front, except for George Bush, Cheney and some of these higher . . . like the Clintons . . . are definitely in on the program and understand what’s going on for their own selfish aggrandizement. They sell their souls and create wars and all the false flags that are going on, this Orlando thing, and all that.
We have to understand that some of the individuals in there have . . . you know, who do you contact and create a cadre of resistance within the military? It is a tough nut to crack.
Some of them have been in contact with these space families and the secret technology program and developing spiritual consciousness along side of technology.
So I think there’s a cadre of them and they’re so secret and have been working in the underground space program who have not liked what’s been going on. The themes, the general tone of secrecy and murder and keep the power at all costs, because people can’t handle it. I have to agree with Cobra, that’s a lie.
Randy Cramer, I adore him. He is a true patriot and that’s a guy I want on my side. He says that the Marines have analyzed demographic data, blah, blah, blah, and the disclosure has to come a certain way or there will be chaos in the streets.
I feel there’s chaos on the planet. There’s murder, death and destruction, and people will be able to process the truth. And unlike Jack Nicholson: You can’t handle the truth. People can handle the truth.
It’s going to be difficult. There will be certain things that will be shocking, but we need to have this full disclosure. And, Michael, again, I told you before, I think you are the finest writer in the field of exopolitics in that you’re very grounded. You lend a sympathetic ear and you maintain your integrity as a journalist.
And I think the more enlightened and aware people out there who can do that as we move forward, we just seeing a massive explosion now of this information. It’s getting to go . . . It’s going viral, but it’s still fringy and there’s a lot of people who want to get involved very quickly and come up to speed, but they don’t have the wisdom and experience or discernment so sometimes the storyline is not as grounded to many people . . . It’ll all happen in it’s own sweet time.
Dr. Salla: Yes, it’s definitely something that’s mushrooming. There’s a snowball effect here. I’ve noticed there just seems to be more and more people being drawn to this field the Secret Space Programs. It certainly is something that people have more attention for.
Well, Corey is going to be the featured speaker at your August Secret Space Program conference. Now, what can the public expect to hear from him and how interactive is it going to be for the audience and the speakers?
Rob: Well, the great thing is, Michael, you are coming as well. So you have, besides David Wilcock, you have the most insider contact with Corey and are dialoguing with him in regards to the history.
Now, Corey has kind of been thrust into this position. He’s an empath. I think he’s becoming more comfortable speaking, but he has kind of a shy side. And the great thing is you’re going to be able to lay the groundwork for him and I offered for him to do a presentation. I’m not sure what he’s going to present. But, we will be having at least four hours with Corey on Saturday and Sunday, which will include – and he’ll be there Friday night too direct questions from the audience.
We’re going to hand out 3×5 cards, and we’re going to vet them for the more interesting questions. But I’m expecting a 150 to 160 people, if all goes well.
You can write multiple questions. And we’re going to vet them a little bit. They need to kind of be on point. And we’re going to have some great questions and let Corey answer them. We’ll probably have a microphone for follow-up questions, but it gets kind of time delay. So I think I’m going to read the questions directly to Corey on stage there.
Corey has a wonderful team around him. We’re going to have it professionally video-taped and sound. And I’ve tried to do this several times, but I think this time we’re really going to pull off a great recording for people who can’t make it to actually see it. The live stream energy won’t be there, but I think we’re going to pull it off this time. We cannot live stream unfortunately, folks. It’s deep in the forest and there’s no cell phone or Internet connection there.
So I think we can look forward to wonderful conversations with Corey on stage. He did say he wants to, for those involved in the Disclosure Project . . . Some of the primary people will be meeting there for the first time. And I think we’re going to have a private luncheon or two for those people who are involved in wanting to become part of the general populace to serve the awakening to the general populace they’re our brothers and sisters.
This is real. We’re not fringe. We’re not crazies. And this needs to be revealed to the public. At the very least we’re going to get free energy and get rid of nuclear power.
Andrew Basiago says teleportation devices come in pretty quick. There’s lots of toys that can come from that, but for me, it’s an understanding of liberation and letting the truth come out. Let those Nazis go ahead and keep their little program and do their thing and we’re going to surpass them because we’re oriented in love, fellowship, unity and the common good of all.
Dr. Salla: About a month ago you did an interview with both Corey Goode and Cobra. So what did you learn from the interview? What are the highlights? What were the main lessons for those wanting to corroborate information about Secret Space Programs?
Rob: Well, one of the things I learned is that they’re both extremely busy. Just coordinately that thing took me three months on time. Corey is . . . a good family man and he takes his family life seriously and it was hard to get them together, but . . . And I love Cobra. I’ve supported him for years. I have, you know, some differences of opinion a little bit here and there. I’m a little more . . . I’m very comfortable with the word ‘God’. I don’t think it’s a machine. I think it’s a living, loving creation and certain aspects of the spiritual lineages of Light, I think, are important.
But this was a very Secret Space Program-oriented one. When I normally give an interview, I have a conversation with Cobra or something, and a lot of people think I’m just an interviewer and that’s not my personal style.
I have my own experience and I want . . . I use the interview to educate myself. So I generally have conversations and give backgrounds to questions that the audience wouldn’t know if I was to say, Hey, Bob Renaud said this and . . .
Unless there’s a background, people don’t get it. So usually do that. For this interview, due to them both asking the same questions, I was very regimented and disciplined and I asked direct questions to both of them.
And what I was trying to get from that interview, was a spiritual aspect to what’s going on with the good guys. Corey talks about it, but his information has been woefully at least what I’ve seen so far not sharing benevolent contact. It’s like we’re getting a birdseye view, but we really don’t know what they’re talking about.
We see these good guys doing this and that, but there’s really no personal . . . like Alex Collier’s very personal interactions with Morenae and Vysayus. How he’s feeling and what they’re thinking about us is bereft in Corey’s dialogue. It’s mostly very much like, I went up there and I did this and that. He’s not briefed on where he is going or anything so it is tough for him. So I was trying to get more of that from Corey.
And Cobra shared that side of his knowledge of the Confederation, and Corey and them basically supported each other in a lot of information in regards to the control Matrix and the technology that’s used.
They had some differences in views in what Corey calls the artificial intelligence and Cobra calls the primary anomaly in regards to it being a technology or a universal natural source. And I had to side with Cobra on that in that I feel that it is a technology that is run by, let’s call them, powerful fallen beings in direct opposition to what is considered universal law and order.
And this is something that’s still not clear to us. We’re beginning to see the differences here and we probably won’t get clarity and all of us are going to have, Oh, I really didn’t see that one coming, as contact, first contact, moves to the forefront and open, transparent interplanetary culture exchange takes place as oppose to the piecemeal stuff when we finally do get our benevolent Elohim, Seraphim, Family and the various non-material and material beings openly communicating it will be clearer. When our interaction history with various groups and the timelines are laid bare to us as a populace through open disclosure. Even through the United Nations, albeit a readjusted United Nations, Then with a open and free mass media that’s not controlled and we can actually judge for ourselves. And, of course, there’ll be face-to-face contacts.
We really just need to be sure that when it’s done it’s done properly. I would really suspect that if disclosure, ETs, are presented to us from Obama and the Queen of England, I’m really going to . . . I would have to agree with Alex that it’s a false flag introduction that may come forward.
I know they have plans for that. They’ve had a lot of plans that haven’t come through, though, so it’s very possible that the good guys may be able at some point to directly intervene when it’s safe enough to reveal the truth to humanity. And we can decide on our own and be happy and not happy with some of our historical contacts and get it cleared up. What’s the difference between the Sumerian’s contact and the Atlantean time.
And the Biblical stories have to be put into perspective of what’s happening – the men of renown, David and Goliath, the giant cyclops. All those kinds of things will be cleared up and we’ll definitely probably get a book of who’s who from where and how long they’ve been here and their histories and struggles to become a super civilization, and we’ll take our place amongst the stars as brothers and sisters and equals with our space family out there.
It’s an exciting time, but it’s confusing. Keep your hands and arms inside the spaceship at all times.
Dr. Salla: Well, one of the other presenters is going to be Laura Eisenhower, the great-granddaughter of President Eisenhower. So why is her information important for learning about Secret Space Programs? And what are we going to hear from her?
Rob: Well, I love her. I like to call her a tigress for the Light. She is enthusiastic. She’s deep metaphysical and I actually spoke with one of my upstairs contacts the other day – upstairs, downstairs kind of thing and they said she definitely brings the divine feminine and the Sophia energies and has a deep understanding of the mystical and religious and spiritual experience.
William James . . . all spiritual and mystical experiences have certain things in common they are transcendental are ineffable. You can’t talk about them. They’re transcendental in nature. And this is the aspect that goes beyond reason. It’s kind of like a swoon. It’s like a direct feeling consciousness. It’s kind of like, how can you explain what happens when really good music hits your soul? It touches you. It just moves you.
I mean, you could say, Well, the resonance of the sound vibrations effect the typhonic membrane etc. Some times you know, you’ve got to get into the feeling and that’s where the women come in. Men are centered in reason and women consciousness is centered in feeling. The grey matter in the brain, and you have grey matter in your diaphragm, and if you, huh, huh, you watch and athlete when they pant from that kind of animalistic diaphragm, that’s the center of feeling at the tip of the breastbone and that’s where women are typically very much more in tune than the masculine.
Not that men aren’t aware or can’t be with feeling and women can’t have giant intellects and be super intelligent, but until we integrate those aspects within ourselves in a positive way, the women are very in tune with feeling. Sometimes men think it’s too much and don’t acknowledge feeling and women think we’re just thick idiots because we’re not processing information from the grey matter in our diaphragm.
Laura has . . . her bona fides by her genetic grandfather and her being approached by the Secret Space Program on Mars as well . Her and I are the same way when it comes to sometimes stream of consciousness talking and all of her views on the government. She goes right to the point . . . I mean, false flags, media control, vaccinations. She’s like me, just bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. We align on almost everything.
And she is . . . got the heart space too. And women need a voice. I really am impressed and love her to death.
I’ve been trying to get her to come for years and I’m just so happy she can come this year. We’re looking forward to some great stuff from her.
Dr. Salla: Right. Well, in my presentation, I’m going to be covering a lot of the material from William Tompkins. One of the things I’ve found really very supportive coming from him was how much his information dovetails with Corey Goode’s. Bill actually read my book, Insider’s Reveal Secret Space Programs . . . a lot of it is based on Corey’s testimony. And he was really shocked at how much it matched with his own experiences in going back, right back to 1942 when he was working with the U.S. Navy He finished working with the Navy League, [after leaving] the aerospace industry, around the year of 2000.
So it’s synchronicity and corroboration there, and what Tompkins brings in is a lot of documents, a lot of credible people, that actually support his testimony, or support him as a witness. One of the things that I did was I was able to track down a couple of the Navy officers that actually worked with Bill Tompkins when he was up in Medford, Oregon, not all that far from the Mt. Shasta area.
And actually there’s an interesting connection there with Mt. Shasta. It’s that . . . these [two] Navy officers said that Tompkins was the real deal. He was talking about extraterrestrials and that Tompkins was in charge of these special projects. Tompkins had a document basically showing that the Navy League actually was discussing these special projects. And he discussed some of them.
But one of the special projects that I thought was very interesting was that he said that a lot of the mainly retired Navy officers and the reserve Navy officers there were pilots. And so one of the special projects was to actually track extraterrestrial visitors, or more correctly we’d say, just the flying saucers, that were entering and leaving Mt. Shasta.
That they observed these hidden entryways into Mt. Shasta. And so they had these planes up there trying to find out where the ETs were entering and leaving, and I think some of those might have been Earth civilizations. That they also actually had these off-road vehicles going up Mt. Shasta to find out, or to find these hidden entryways.
So definitely there’s this very interesting connection with Shasta. So I’ll be talking about his information.
But what I find very encouraging with William Tompkins coming forward now . . . a year after Randy Cramer first came forward and then Corey Goode came forward in September of 2014. Then in December of last year, Bill Tompkins book appears, Selected by Extraterrestrials.
It seems to me, that this is part of [an orchestrated plan]. . . I mean you couldn’t plan it better, because in a way, Randy Cramer, Corey Goode, present their experience, but they have no documents. There’s no kind of professional aspect of who they are as individuals in terms of education, careers, that support, directly supports, their testimony. But they put the story out.
And then a little bit later you have Bill Tompkins coming on the scene supporting what Corey has said, what Randy Cramer has said. But in Tompkins case, he actually has the background, the professional background. He has the documentation, the corroborating witness testimony.
So what I think is happening here, it’s almost like there’s this divine script happening, because there’s a lot of professional people that say, Ah, Corey Goode and Randy Cramer, you know, nonsense. Where’s the hard evidence?
Those same people, when you present the data with William Tompkins, they’re eyes pop out they say, Well, really? Well, this guy’s the real deal. And he’s actually supporting what Corey has said, what Randy has said.
So I think what Tompkins does is he opens it up to a much wider audience and to me it’s like this is really an incredibly divinely scripted process where these Secret Space Program whistleblowers start coming out, each one supporting what the other one has said, but opening it up to a slightly new audience because of their own backgrounds.
Rob: Absolutely, and you are a primary part of that. I want to go back to the Shasta thing a little bit. Back in the ’50s there was a road called Military Pass, and the government, they have an underground base there.
Andrew Basiago said that there’s obviously a giant command center there. They’re watching. They’re impotent. They could take their tunnel boring machines, and I promise you they have, and they’ve gone nowhere. They get stopped. The machines will overheat. They just won’t start. They’ve given up, I’m pretty sure, on any attempt to breach the Inner Earth civilization there, which I believe is completely benevolent.
If you’ve lived there for any period of time, if I have girlfriends that come close with me and they want evidence, eventually they show up and Shasta was one of the more particularly profound displays. I was with a girl and she wanted to believe and all this kind of stuff. She was kind of an atheist. She had a spiritual experience, and then she came back and was questioning me and we were over at Lake Siskiyou there and a large, golden disc went from the top of Mt. Shasta, kind of swooped down over the town, moving at a high rate of speed, and came right by us and she was like, What was that?
And I go, What do you think it was?
Ah, ah . . .
I said, Maybe it was an eagle carrying a gold coin reflected from the sunlight. You know, and she finally is just like laughed and she got it. There’s lots of stuff up there and if you have an open mind and an open heart, you’re going to see phenomenon. And the focus is not phenomenon. The focus is, Who’s inside there? What are they doing? What is their thinking? And if we process this information on your own over time, How can they move so fast? and all this stuff. Then you go into the other Secret Space Program, which is the benevolent contactees that have been on-going and paralleling the government’s program.
The interesting thing about William Tompkins is also his direct interaction with what he calls the Nordics. Who they are, but, you know, I think he’s protected. He’s 93 years old. I was a little concerned about his age and we talked about having him come, but I might have made a mistake in not bringing him, but you can certainly share his information and maybe we can get him to come up as a personal visit, a journey.
But it certainly seems a very, very powerful aspect to have this synchronistic back up, and I agree with you 100% that this is a divinely orchestrated in a synchronistic way. And the mass media just can’t stop it.
Dr. Salla: Right. Well, I’m really looking forward to the conference and presenting some of the incredible information that is coming out now. It really is picking up. There seems to be this kind of incoming of galactic energies, a heightening of awareness, the raising of vibrations, frequencies. People seem to be more open to various possibilities. So I’m very interested in presenting some of that material that I’ve got. I’ve been learning from Corey, from Bill Tompkins, and others.
So in terms of the conference logistics, how do people learn about it and how do they register?
Rob: Well, they can go to your website, and to my website, , I’m having a migration to my new site and I’ve been hacked, emails. Some weird stuff going on right now that is not functioning, But there’s plenty of seats left. Just go there and choose. You can camp on-site or off-site, if you like.
And we’ll probably have some two-day passes available towards the end near the conference date but at this point they’re not available. It’s a three-day event. Folks, you want to intend to stay all three days.
I’m think about having Laura Eisenhower kind of be our top speaker or ending speaker on Sunday night and lead a nice spiritual closing to all of our kind of intellectual, historical and these technological space program information. So she’s going to probably be closing it out before dinner on Sunday night.
We have great food there. We have dinners and then we have two fire circles that can be opened. And people just have a blast out there, singing and talking, dancing and playing music and the forest is so beautiful and the moonlight and a lot of the fun takes place in between the speakers, at the lunches, at the lake. And in the evening time especially, I have a world-class jazz musician, Clive Stevens, coming. This brother played at the World Jazz Day. He plays with people like Stan Getz, the Marsalis brothers, Herbie Hancock. He’s top-notch, world-class, and he’s going to be presenting some very high-end music as well as Ryan Marchand.
So we have some fun times in the evening, some cool slide shows. It’s going to be a blast. So check it out at Michael’s site. You can check it out on and type in ‘Shasta Summer Conference Part 2 [or click here]
It’s on my website under ‘Upcoming Events’. Just get your ticket. They are going much faster than any other conference I’ve ever had. We still have tickets, but if you’re coming, you might want to make your plans. I suggest people maybe look into, if you’re on a budget and want to stay in a hotel, you can get the Motel 6. It’s a 40-minutes drive each day, but camping it’s a bit rustic up there. But we do have showers, toilets and food, and a very nice hall.
Thank you, so much, Michael. It’s been an honor to be with you here today.
Dr. Salla: Well, thanks, Rob. Aloha, and I look forward to catching up at Mt. Shasta.
Rob: All right, folks. We’ll see you up there. And God bless you all.
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Part 2 – The Secret Space Program – Aug 26-28