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The article below was originally published on 12/22/2004, and examines claims of a joint US/USSR secret space program that abducts individuals for a joint Mars colony. Given Robert David Steele’s June 30, 2017 interview about children being kidnapped and arriving on Mars as adults for use as slave labor, I thought it worth re-posting since the article examines the first public reference to a secret Mars colony using slave labor – Alternative 3.

The article discusses how extraterrestrials were a factor in government preparation for the anticipated cataclysmic global events. Agreements with select extraterrestrial groups were allegedly reached that involved an illicit trade in human slaves and other Earth resources in exchange for advanced technologies. Kidnapped humans were apparently not just marked for transportation to colonies on Mars, but also for some extraterrestrials to use as they saw fit.

Finally, the article discusses why the Alternative 3 scenario did not turn out as predicted, and how a rapid elevation in global consciousness prevented disaster, and provided an opportunity for a much more positive future where disclosure of secret space programs and extraterrestrial agreements could occur.

Links have been updated and some videos/graphics inserted. Text remains unchanged from the original.

Michael Salla, Ph.D. [7/13/17]

Alternative 3 and ‘Global Consciousness’: Identifying a New Strategic Factor for Responding to Extraterrestrials

Alternative 3 began as a science documentary broadcast on British television by Anglia Television in June, 1977 and beamed to several other countries in Europe and to Australia, New Zealand but not to the US. Alternative 3 was the last in series of documentaries called the Science Report. Alternative 3 began with the investigators researching an alleged ‘brain drain’ in Britain (talented individuals emigrating to other countries), and then discovering that these people had disappeared. Further research focused on their allegedly being taken off to work in undisclosed locations. More investigation revealed that the Earth’s environment is undergoing great change due to greenhouse gases and that a top secret effort is underway to move small numbers of the human population to safe locations.

According to an alleged British scientist, the authorities have long known that the global environment was deteriorating so seriously, that three radical solutions or ‘alternatives’ were contemplated. Alternative 1 was to put a stop to environmental degradation and use extreme measures such as atomic blasts in the Earth’s atmosphere to allow greenhouse gases to escape. Alternative 2 was to move enough of the population to safe underground sites to ensure continuity of government and national survival. Alternative 3 was the most radical, establish bases on the Moon and Mars and move as much of the population there to ensure the survival of humanity.

The documentary interviewed an alleged US astronaut ‘Bob Grodin’ who claimed that when he went to the moon that others were already there in words that echoed Neil Armstrong’s alleged comments when on the moon: “But we have found some visitors… They’ve been here for quite a while judging by the installations…. I’m telling you there are other spacecraft out there. They’re lined up in ranks on the far side of the crater’s edge…” [Source]

The documentary finished with a film clip that was allegedly smuggled out by a murdered British scientist that showed a US landing on Mars and an astronaut announcing: “Boy, when they take the wraps off this, it’ll be the biggest day in history. 22 May 1962, we’re on Mars and we have life.”

Alternative 3 caused an immediate uproar since the Science Report was a well respected series of science documentaries that had a track record for informative stories that were credible and very well researched. In 1977 there was no such thing as the internet and cable TV so shows like the Science Report were very influential and reached a wide audience. Anglia television began telling worried telephone callers that the show was fiction and that the investigators and people interviewed in the show were actors. You can read a good summary of how Alternative 3 was hoaxed here  [to view Alternative 3 online, go here].

After all the furor caused by what was now declared to be a fictitious television documentary, one of the individuals involved in the production of Alternative 3 wrote a book a year later that instantly became a popular conspiracy theory. The book, Alternative 3, developed further themes mentioned in the documentary with material that arguably could not be included in the show. Watkins claimed that civilians were being abducted and taken to colonies on Mars and the Moon.

The author Leslie Watkins, emigrated to Australia, and then explained that the book was ‘fiction based on fact,’ and claimed that the original show was also a fictionalized version of fact. For many, the Alternative 3 documentary was just an elaborate hoax, involving actors, and that Watkin’s book was just an example of the people involved trying to cash in on the documentary’s popularity.

Even though Alternative 3 involved actors staging a documentary that was a hoax featuring fictitious British scientists and a fictitious American Astronaut, there are a number of things that makes one suspicious about this whole saga. First, the Science Report was a well respected British documentary produced by Anglia Television. Why would Anglia TV and the produces of the Science Report risk their reputations to produce a hoax that would spark protests by its loyal viewers?

Second, why would the Science Report use actors to impersonate a respected British scientist and a US astronaut whose identities could easily be found to be fictitious? Finally, what does all this have to do with us in 2004 and the undisclosed extraterrestrial presence?

Let me now offer my reflections on what really happened with Alternative 3, and its exopolitical significance. I believe that Alternative 3 was intended to disclose to the general public a truth that was too disturbing to be announced through conventional political channels. The ‘truth’ was undisclosed scientific data that indicated that the Earth’s environment was rapidly collapsing as a result of various causes and that events had reached a point where devastating Earth changes were around the corner.

The conclusion reached by government authorities was that there were going to be devastating environmental changes that would threaten the survival of humanity on the surface of the Earth. Hence intensive efforts were underway to prepare for such a contingency through the three alternatives discussed in the Alternative 3 documentary and book.

The alleged bases on the Moon and Mars were a possible place for relocating significant numbers of civilians to escape whatever environmental catastrophe were projected. As to how the US and other countries had been able to establish bases on the Moon and Mars without public knowledge, the answer lies in the technological assistance provided by extraterrestrials that were providing such technology in exchange for various earth resources.

In Phillip Corso’s book, The Day After Roswell, he described an ambitious blueprint for a base on the moon that was made possible by extraterrestrial technologies recovered from the Roswell crash. While the book presents the Moon base as an unrealized project, the implication that Corso is making with the inclusion of these chapters is that the Moon base was indeed constructed but that he couldn’t officially disclose this in the book.

The recent book series, Millennial Hospitality (2002), released by a former USAF weather observer, Charles Hall, demonstrates the extent that the government exchanged technology with a group of extraterrestrials called the ‘tall whites’. The tall whites provided the technological information for constructing nuclear powered scout craft that could travel in nearby regions of the solar system, and even provided tours of the Moon and possibly Mars to USAF generals on their more advanced anti-gravity propelled scout craft.

Thus the Hall book series lends support to alleged whistleblowers such as Michael Relfe who claim to have traveled to Mars and served in a secret human colony there. Hall also supports the testimony of a former member of US Naval Intelligence, William Cooper, who claimed to have seen documents describing secret bases on the Moon and Mars. It can be assumed that extraterrestrials such as the Tall Whites provided intelligence on the impending environmental catastrophe, and probably struck deals with the shadow government where both would benefit in the event of such a global calamity.

As to what were the undisclosed causes driving a dramatic environmental collapse, one can take their pick: runaway greenhouse and ozone depleting gasses, an impending pole shift, the approach of a large comet/planet such as Planet X, the sun experiencing immense mega solar activity, an impending nuclear war, and/or the use of exotic technologies provided by visiting extraterrestrial races. There is much evidence to support each of these factors as possible causes of devastating environmental change on Earth that were thought to be inevitable so I leave it to the reader to research each of these and their plausibility.

My conclusion is that the shadow government that controlled extraterrestrial affairs were convinced that a planet wide environmental collapse was imminent, so for the sake of preparing those who might stand a chance of surviving on Earth’s surface, they covertly arranged for the production and release of Alternative 3. The idea was to put enough factual material in the documentary so that those that were alert enough, could take whatever measures they could to survive what was about to happen.

At the same time, the documentary had to be obviously a hoax using actors playing fictitious personalities so that it could be easily dismissed by those who might panic if indeed there was truth to it. That way the shadow government could get the word out while maintaining plausible deniability over the truth of what was claimed in the show.

I think this best explains why the Science Report went to all the effort to produce Alternative 3, and ride out the predictable public backlash once viewers were told the show was a hoax. To me, this explanation is the most plausible as to why Anglia TV and the Science Report went ahead with the production and airing of Alternative 3.

So if the Science Show was televising Alternative 3 to warn those who were alert enough as to what was really happening, and if the that shadow government was secretly behind the production of Alternative 3 to both test public reaction and prepare those who might stand a chance of surviving a predicted environmental catastrophe, then why haven’t the Earth changes happened? After all it’s been 27 years since Alternative 3 aired so if the shadow government were really behind it to promote some public awareness of what they believed the evidence conclusively suggested lay just ahead, how could their bleak assessments have been so wrong?

I think this is where we reach some interesting conclusions since the shadow government would have had impressive scientific resources and technological data needed to reach their assessment of what lay ahead for the planet. When you combine the bleak assessment that the shadow government reached, with predictions of impending environmental collapse by extraterrestrials who have communicated with contactees/abductees, and predictions of global calamity by a host of psychics throughout the 1980s and 1990s, then it becomes clear that the shadow government, visiting extraterrestrial races and psychics missed something vital in their predictions of an impending environmental catastrophe. What factor or variable did the shadow government, extraterrestrials and psychics miss in making their bleak assessments about the future of humanity on the surface of Earth?

The answer I believe is that all failed to factor in the relevance of ‘global consciousness’ into their predictive models and analyses of the forces behind an environmental collapse. The best source for understanding the concept of ‘global consciousness’ and how it affects the evolution of life on Earth is Tielhard de Chardin and his concept of the ‘noosphere’.

The noosphere was an evolving composite of humanity’s thoughts, feelings and social relationships that evolved steadily upward towards a fuller manifestation of human potential. De Chardin’s thoughts on a ‘global consciousness’ was independently supported by theorists such as Carl Jung who discovered archetypes of the ‘collective unconscious’ of humanity.

Rather than solely an abstraction dreamed up by progressive thinkers, the concept of a global consciousness is physically represented through the communications infrastructure of the internet. The internet probably more than anything else physically symbolizes the noosphere or ‘global consciousness’ that Chardin was arguing to be a critical factor in the evolution of humanity.

Now this takes us to the question of how ‘global consciousness’ may be the missing variable that accounts for the failed shadow government predictive models, information provided by extraterrestrials and psychic visions that all suggested that devastating environmental events were inevitable, and thus made Alternative 3 necessary. It can be asserted that global consciousness somehow sufficiently impacted on the global environment to diminish, retard or even negate the environmental catastrophe predicted by researchers reporting to the shadow government, visiting extraterrestrial races, and psychics.

It has been shown by a research project at Princeton University that major global events impact on the ‘collective consciousness’ or noosphere. Key events such as the deaths of Princes Dianna and Mother Theresa, the 911 attack, major earthquakes and other significant international events have a measurable impact on global consciousness. So if global events register or impact on global consciousness, can it work the other way? In other words, can global consciousness impact on global events in a way that significantly alters these?

The idea that consciousness can alter physical reality is found in various mystical traditions such as the Hermetic principles that were practiced by the ancient Greeks. This idea was popularized for students of quantum physics by Fritjoff Capra who wrote the Tao of Physics in 1974. Essentially, quantum physicists were discovering that the observer of sub-atomic behaviors was a factor in understanding the behavior of these particles. This realization opened the door to the idea that consciousness impacts on the observed behavior of sub-atomic particles. So going from sub-atomic particles to global events, it can be asked whether changes in global consciousness impact on global events?

Answering this question first requires understanding whether there have been recently dramatic changes in global consciousness, and what might be the factors driving such change. The idea that global consciousness can change and evolve is not new since this is something that Tielhard de Chardin proposed, and eventually got him into trouble with Catholic Church authorities. So if there has recently been some dramatic shifts in global consciousness, what might have been driving this?

Many have argued that the Earth and our solar system has entered a new region of the galaxy which makes possible a more evolved form of global consciousness. This has been referred to as the ‘photon belt’ and it has been argued to be a region that impacts on the frequencies of the Earth, the Sun and other planets in our solar system.

Other theorists have argued that the plane of our solar system has come into alignment with the galactic core of the Milky Way thereby impacting on global consciousness. All these may be factors driving changes in global consciousness, but the most instrumental factor has been the communications made possible by the develop of the internet.

The best evidence of a dramatic shift in global consciousness is the development of the internet and the global communications and cyber-communities this has spawned. The growth of yahoo discussion groups, for example, has enabled individuals from around the planet to network with one other, establish connections, share networks and establish new identities that break down the more provincial/national identities that were dominant in the pre-internet days.

More significantly, the internet has made it possible for communities to share information and take action to deal with environmental problems as they arose. The internet has been a dramatic technological development that has made possible rapid changes in global consciousness. This change is unrivalled in human history and perhaps only the establishment of the printing press in the 15th century rivals it.

So if it is accepted that global consciousness has shifted in ways that reflect a more integrated global community made possible by the communications infrastructure of the internet and cyber-communications such as Yahoo discussion groups, can this impact on our global reality? Put otherwise, does a more unified global humanity impact on the physical world around us? This is a difficult question to answer, but it nevertheless points to the idea that changes in global consciousness are an important factor or variable to take into account in analyzing the impact of possible environmental changes on Earth.

The fact that numerous groups around the planet began to take a keen interest in the environment and assisting with problems as they were brought to the public’s attention, demonstrates the power of global consciousness when focused on a particular set of problems such as the global environmental changes. In my view, the failure of shadow government to factor in ‘global consciousness’ into their assessments of a potential environmental collapse, accounts for why they were dramatically mistaken in planning for inevitable destructive environmental changes.

So if global consciousness is the missing variable in determining the likelihood of destructive environmental damage, how can this be effectively factored in future global security threats contemplated by the shadow government? Arguably, the most serious global threat aside from an environmental catastrophe, is that posed by extraterrestrial races that have infiltrated our planet and pose a long term threat to human sovereignty due to their technological superiority and the advantages this gives them in forging trade pacts with the shadow government.

Indeed, the Charles Hall books point to Tall White extraterrestrials, and likely other extraterrestrial races, having imposed agreements on US shadow government authorities that involve the extraction of significant earth resources to off world locations in exchange for technological know how and permission for extraterrestrials to be housed in bases on Earth.

There’s strong evidence in Hall’s revelations that the Tall Whites are conducting an interstellar trade using large quantities of Earth resources possibly including abducted civilians. Significantly, Hall describes the powerlessness felt by the military in dealing with the technological superiority of the tall whites.

These themes are vividly demonstrated in the recent movie, The Forgotten, which dramatizes the phenomenon of civilians being abducted by extraterrestrials who disappear with records and memories of them being deleted, while national security agencies are powerless to stop the extraterrestrials responsible for this.

If global consciousness was the missing factor in preventing inevitable environmental challenges once these problems were brought to the attention of the general public, then it may similarly be a factor that can impact on the relations with unfriendly extraterrestrial races extracting earth resources and possibly humans for off world locations.

While national security agencies may feel powerless to stop such practices due to their perceived technological inferiority, global consciousness may once again play a constructive role in warding off a threat that is still not disclosed to the general public. Using global consciousness against the threat posed by resource hungry extraterrestrial visitors may be the best defense national security agencies have in warding off a threat that still remains undisclosed to the general public.

Global consciousness in the form of an interconnected, empowered and informed global public is yet to be appreciated as a strategic asset by national security agencies responsible for dealing with threats to the long term sovereignty, freedom and well being of global humanity. Once global consciousness is made aware of the threat posed by resource hungry extraterrestrials visiting the Earth, then solutions will be found to ensure that dignity and integrity of humanity in the face of technologically advanced extraterrestrial races.

Global consciousness is an important strategic variable in dealing with global challenges posed by the extraterrestrial presence, and requires a profound reversal of the non-disclosure policy in place for more than five decades by the US and other major national governments.

© Michael E. Salla, PhD
December 22, 2004

In a December 11, 2016 report, secret space program whistleblower Corey Goode described an announcement of the existence of Tall White extraterrestrials as an option being considered for a limited disclosure initiative orchestrated by the U.S. Air Force, Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency.  Goode said:

Another potential plan that is in the “optional” category involves the possible disclosure of a single ET group known as the “Tall Whites.” This is the group that Charles Hall and others have met up with. The Cabal might try to introduce us to this group, explain they have been around for a really long time, and hope that they can get us to follow a mystical new religion offered by these beings. This would definitely not be in humanity’s best interest.

In order to acquaint readers to Charles Hall and his testimony concerning the Tall Whites, and why Goode’s conclusion about them is accurate, I have decided to re-post a series of articles and interviews about Hall’s testimony, which began in November 2004. What follows is the third article in the series. [For part one click here, for part two click here]

Michael Salla, Ph.D.

Jan 2, 2017

[Repost from 12/15/2004] What follows is based on recent correspondence with Charles Hall from December 5-14, 2004 where he answers a number of questions, regarding the existence of ‘tall white’ extraterrestrials that he met while serving at Nellis Air Force base as a duty weather observer from 1965-67. His experiences are recorded in his three [now five] volume set of books, Millennial Hospitality. I had personally interviewed him on December 2 and summarized his responses from my interview notes to gain a general impression of him. I found Charles Hall to be a credible witness of extraterrestrials that he met while serving at Nellis AFB, and he displayed remarkable qualities of integrity and fidelity in explaining the events that occurred.

In this correspondence, I asked a set of questions on December 5, which he answered by email on December 12. I then sent some follow up questions which he answered on December 14. My aim in this correspondence was to focus of the activities of the ‘tall whites’ and their interactions with the US Air Force (USAF) in terms of better understanding the details of their trade and technological exchanges. The questions and answers from this correspondence have been thematically organized, and grammatical corrections have been made. I begin this paper with the questions and answers supplied by Charles Hall. I finish this paper with my evaluation of his correspondence which I believe is vitally important in gaining a better idea of the political implications of the tall white’s secret trade and technology agreements with US military/government authorities.

Michael E. Salla, PhD
December 16, 2004

M.S. Michael Salla
C.H. Charles Hall

M.S. You describe the tall whites as building scout crafts using materials found on Earth. Can you elaborate on how you came to know this information?

C.H. This information is based on my personal observations. In book two I describe the afternoon when The Teacher and Range Four Harry were showing me the inside of one of the scout craft. Many of the items, such as the seats and the overhead compartments still carried the mold markings placed on them by various American industries such as Boeing aircraft and Lockheed corporation. The overhead compartments were obviously “off-the-shelf” items from companies such as Airstream corporation. Many of the clothing items that the tall whites were wearing were obviously purchased straight out of the Sears and Montgomery Wards Catalogs.

M.S. Can you name some of the materials used by the tall whites, and what role did the US military play in supplying these materials?

C.H. One of the big items was children’s clothing. In the mid 1960’s, on at least one occasion the USAF purchased more than $600,000 worth of children’s clothing from the Sears stores and warehouse in Los Angeles, California, picked it up in Government trucks, and shipped it to Indian Springs Auxiliary Field, Nevada. the trucks delivered the clothing to the main tall white base at the north end of Indian Springs Valley.

M.S. Did you ever see the tall whites eat, and what kind of food did they eat?

C.H. I never personally saw the tall whites actually eat food, although I’m quite certain that they ate food as we humans do. For example, as described in my books, I did see the tall white guard in the restaurant the old Aladdin casino ( before it was remodeled ) sitting at the table behind me, disguised as a human wearing a black formal suit and wearing sunglasses even though it was night (not unusual for Las Vegas, Nev at the time). He had ordered a complete dinner with water and cola to drink. It was on the table in front of him. However, he did not appear to have eaten any of it. My friends who are range maintenance men told me that in the fall they frequently saw the tall whites up in the mountains collecting grass seeds and seeds of other eatable plants apparently for the purpose of eating. In any event, I’m certain that the tall whites ate only plants and never ate any meat or any of the ordinary meat products.

The food that I saw packaged and sealed in plastic bags on the scout craft, looked like thick mushroom pudding. It had obviously been prepared by the tall whites themselves, up in their living quarters and was intended for snacks and meals to be eaten when they were out hiking, etc. The Teacher at that time stated that the food was intended for the children but that sometimes the adults ate it if they were hungry. The Teacher used to make a pleasant joke about the little boy that I called the little fat astronaut. She used to laughingly say that he was the one who liked the food, so perhaps they felt that the food here on earth wasn’t as tasteful as the food they were used to back on their home planet. On a different occasion The Teacher stated pleasantly that it wouldn’t be a good idea for me to eat all of the foods that they ate. She implied that two of their favorite foods would have adverse effects on me. It was my understanding that it might take my body as long and 2 years ( for one ) and 5 years for the other to get used to them. It was my understanding that eating those foods made a person feel very “HIGH” somewhat similar to drinking various quantities of alcohol.

I note from my studies of organic chemistry that the chemical molecule that gives the odor and flavor to strawberries is such a chemically simple molecule that it could be easily created by both plants and chemists on earth-like planets throughout the galaxy. For example, I’m told that a number of plants here on earth produce fruit that tastes similar to strawberries.

Likewise from my studies of Organic Chemistry, the sugar and starch molecules are the basis of energy foods and must certainly be important energy sources on every earth-like planet in our galaxy. Therefore, my guess is that one of the types of food that the tall whites would enjoy would be strawberry flavored puddings that were high in natural sugars and starches. As I remember it, the tall white guard sitting in the old Alladin restaurant had ordered a piece of artificially flavored strawberry pie although he did not appear to have eaten any of it.

M.S. What kind of food was supplied by the USAF to the tall whites?

C.H. I have no idea. However, the USAF was certainly supplying them with as much food of any type they requested. As I state in book one, the Tall Whites were inspecting the food storage rooms in the Indian Springs AAF chow hall. It was my understanding that a few of the tall whites foods are made from plants that do not grow here on this earth. It is my understanding that their home planet is larger( perhaps twice as large) much drier and much warmer than the earth. So it would be natural for some of their plants to be unable to grow here on earth.

M.S. Was the food given to the tall whites in excess of their local needs and intended for interstellar trade?

C.H. The USAF was obviously willing to give them as much of any food item that they requested, no questions asked. The USAF was obviously entirely willing to give them both food and non-animal based clothing items ( cotton, nylon, etc) without limit for use as trading materials.

M.S. Did the US play any role in the actual construction of the tall white’s scout craft?

C.H. I’m not sure. From what I saw, the tall whites performed all of the construction activities themselves. I’m certain that the tall whites performed all work on the propulsion systems and on the fiber optics windings themselves.

M.S. Did the military have personnel observe the tall whites in the construction process or observe their construction facilities?

C.H. I’m certain that the tall whites did not allow any USAF personnel to observe the construction process. In book two, in the chapter entitled “Two Games on one Board” I describe the day that I was able to observe their repair activities from a short distance. To the best of my knowledge, I am the only human that was allowed to view those activities from as close as I was.

M.S. You described the hangar that was used as a base for the larger interstellar spacecraft used by the tall whites. Was this built solely by the tall whites or did the US military play a role in this?

C.H. The hanger appeared to have been entirely constructed by the USAF for use by the tall whites. For example, the inside of the hanger looked just like any other ordinary aircraft hanger. It included ordinary fire extinguishers, arrows marking exits, etc. In addition to writing and signs on the walls in english, it also include hieroglyphics and icons used by the aliens. The alien writing was done in pink paint against a white background.

M.S. When in your view was the hangar supplied by the USAF for the tall whites built?

C.H. I have no idea. However, I’m certain that the legends of Range Four Harry go back at least as far as 1954. The hanger construction ( i.e. its steel supports, its other materials, it’s lighting designs, its concrete doors that raised up in narrow sections by being lifted up from the top, etc ) were consistent with the construction techniques used in the late 1940’s and early 1950’s.

I note that president Harry Truman believed that he had seen a ghost in the white house during the late 1940’s and early 1950’s when he was president. In his description, he specifically stated that the white house guards would first “fall asleep” before the ghost came. His description of the ghost matches very very closely the actual appearance and behavior of an older tall white guard. President Truman mistakenly believed that he had seen a ghost of President Abraham Lincoln. My suggestion is that you research the stories of Lincoln’s “ghost” in the White House, the “ghost” of DONNA ANNA county in Las Cruces New Mexico and at White Sands New Mexico ( 1947?). My belief is that you will be surprised to see that descriptions of these “ghosts” and their behavior matches very very closely with the actual appearance and behavior of the tall whites. Remember that many of the range maintenance men who saw the tall whites believed that they were seeing “ghosts”.

M.S. Are all the bases used by tall whites in the US supplied and constructed by the USAF?

C.H. I have no idea. My guess is that the answer is yes because I only saw USAF generals and personnel out on the Nellis Ranges.

M.S. You contrast nuclear powered propulsion as elementary for the tall whites which they supplied to the US military. You contrast this with anti-gravity propulsion which they did not supply. Are these the only two propulsion systems that the tall whites openly discussed or make known to the US authorities or to you?

C.H. Yes, as far as I know.

M.S. You mention that the tall whites supplied the know how for nuclear powered scout craft. Did the tall whites actually fly nuclear powered scout craft when on Earth or did they use anti-gravity propulsion in their scout craft?

C.H. The tall whites always used the anti-gravity powered space craft and scout craft. The nuclear powered craft were only for use by the USAF.

M.S. What kind of speed were the nuclear powered scout craft capable of, in contrast to the anti-gravity propelled scout craft?

C.H. Vastly slower. The anti-gravity craft were capable of speeds in excess of the speed of light where as the nuclear powered were capable of just ordinary rocket powered speeds.

M.S. Why do you believe that the tall whites took USAF officers for short trips to the moon?

C.H. Because of the significant number of times that I personally saw the Tall Whites using their scout craft ( with groups of USAF Generals on board ) taking off more or less straight up from Indian Springs valley just after sun rise when the moon was in the fourth quarter. The scout craft always headed towards the moon. Then later the same day, I would personally see the same scout craft returning just before noon back to the Indian Springs valley and landing. When the USAF Generals got off the craft they were laughing like they had just come back from the world’s best amusement park.

M.S. Do the tall whites have bases on the moon or other nearby planets?

C.H. I have no idea. However, as described in my writings, on the day ( in book two ) when I was shown the inside of one of the scout craft Range Four Harry stated, in what he considered to be a humorous story about the American Generals, that the reason the tall whites had taken a small group of American Generals for a short ride in the craft was to discuss the American request for help in building bases within the solar system.

Harry stated that the tall whites believed that the earth itself was the only reasonable location for bases within this solar system because all of the other locations were cold and uninhabitable.

M.S. Do you know if the tall whites assisted in the construction of moon facilities for the USAF?

C.H. I have no idea. However, I can’t imagine that the USAF would undertake such construction without first requesting help from the tall whites.

M.S. Did you ever hear of the tall whites taking officers to Mars or any other planet on one of their shuttles?

C.H. Yes. One occasion was described in my answer above. There were a number of other occasions that I am not able to describe in emails.

M.S. Would you surmise that in the almost 40 years since you last communicated/interacted with tall whites, that they may have supplied the know how for larger craft to the US military as part of more recent technology exchange agreements?

C.H. I can only guess. I would not think the tall whites would have changed their policy. They live roughly 10 times longer than humans. Forty years isn’t much time for them.

M.S. You mention that the tall whites regularly used Earth as a port of call for their large interstellar ships. Do you have any idea of what the cargo was for these ships that presumably were engaged in some sort of trade?

C.H. I feel certain that children’s clothes and adult clothes and food stuffs were big items. I also feel certain that pure refined metals such as aluminum and titanium were also included in the trade.

M.S. Any estimate for the total number of tall whites on Earth?

C.H. In book three in the chapter entitled “The End of the Innocence” I describe personally seeing more than 200-300 individuals lined up along the base of the mountains to the east of range three. Each large deep space craft could probably hold approximately the same number of individuals as a typical passenger cruise ship.

M.S. Would it be fair to say that the US military limits the number of tall whites on Earth due to the fear of them colonizing the Earth?

C.H. I can only guess. However, I would doubt very seriously that the US government has the ability to place any limits of that type on the tall whites. The tall whites are very independent. As I describe in my books, I wouldn’t think that any human, US government or otherwise would dare saying “No” to them or trying to limit them against their will. It would be suicide to try. Any such agreement would have to be very carefully negotiated.


Evaluation (M.S)
The tall whites’ construction of scout craft using material supplied by the USAF immediately strikes one as quite significant. Why would an interstellar race with advanced technological capabilities require local material unless those tall whites on Earth were expected to fend for themselves using what local material was available? The tall whites are presumably in a very analogous position to the first colonists in the New World who needed local material while waiting to be resupplied by the mother colony. In exchange for local material and a base constructed by the USAF, the tall whites give in exchange the technological know how for the construction of nuclear powered scout crafts for visiting planets in the solar system. This suggests that the US have capabilities for space flight that far exceeds what is publicly known, and gives credence to allegations that secret military bases exist on the Moon and Mars (http://www.themarsrecords.com/ ).

The statement that the tall whites take on board their large interstellar ships material such as aluminum, titanium, food as well as clothes for both children and adults suggests that an active interstellar trade is occurring. The tall whites are acting as interstellar merchants identifying and gaining possession of Earth resources that are used by the tall whites for undisclosed purposes elsewhere in the galaxy. Charles Hall explains that the US would supply food to the tall whites without any questions, and that this would be used as part of the trade the tall whites were engaged in. Now the question to be raised here is just how extensive is this? How much food are the tall whites taking, and is it exclusively for their use? Could it be used to supply, for example, populations on other planets that have a food shortage? Alternatively, could it be used to feed captive human populations relocated to other worlds?

Now what strikes one as quite odd is the reliance on human clothing and food by the tall whites. It is strange that the tall whites require human clothes in excess of their local needs, if there truly exists such a local need by the tall whites for human clothing as Charles Hall was led to believe. Why wouldn’t the tall whites prefer their own clothing products both on and off Earth? After all, colonialism was historically distinguished by the colonial rulers imposing their own dress codes and customs on local populations. The tall whites hardly come across as profound admirers of humanity and its civilization as Hall reveals in his description of their contemptuous attitude towards USAF servicemen, and how they viewed the abundance of less intelligent life forms on Earth as very primitive. Indeed the tall whites stated that “[o]n most planets, once people become intelligent, they don’t want to have anything to do with the animals that are much less intelligent than they are, so they kill them off.” (Millennial Hospitality II, p. 349). Would such an extraterrestrial race with a contemptuous attitude for less intelligent life forms, voluntarily wear the clothing of what they regard as a less intelligent species?

It is hard to accept that the tall whites have a preference for human clothes since this is not a behavior described by other individuals who have had contact with human looking extraterrestrial races in general. It is more likely that the clothes supplied to the tall whites by the USAF was to be used for purposes other than clothing the tall whites either on Earth or elsewhere. One plausible purpose is for interstellar trade. This would imply that the tall whites are trading with off humanoid races that may find human clothes to be exotic and attractive in the same way modern Europeans might find traditional Chinese clothes attractive. Another possible use is that the tall whites are using the clothes to supply humans from Earth that have been relocated to other worlds visited or controlled by the tall whites.

As in the case of food, was the real purpose of the clothes supplied to the tall whites intended for humans that were secretly being relocated by the tall whites? Could the use of human clothes by the tall whites described by Charles Hall have been a cover for the real use of the clothes, to clothe humans shipped to interstellar locations as a part of a resource exchange program? Perhaps, more disturbingly, could the food and clothing supplied to the tall whites be part of a resource exchange program that the US military is aware of but feels powerless to stop? All these questions require further investigation by those committed to making public exactly what Earth resources are being given to the tall whites, and for what purposes.

This takes me to the final issue which concerns Charles response that the tall whites can’t be restricted in any way by the USAF. He believes that it is suicidal to try to restrict the tall whites, and that only carefully negotiated agreements can be made with them. This is reminiscent of the comments by Col Phillip Corso that the US had entered into a kind of ‘negotiated surrender’ with an extraterrestrial race:

We had negotiated a kind of surrender with them [extraterrestrials] as long as we couldn’t fight them. They dictated the terms because they knew what we most feared was disclosure” (The Day After Roswell, p.292).

Hall certainly believes, along with the US military, that the tall white’s technological superiority forces the US military to enter into agreements that may not reflect very favorable terms.

In Millennial Hospitality, a revealing passage describes the extent to which the tall whites want to instill in Charles a sense of the technological superiority of the tall whites and the ineffectiveness of any offensive measures (vol II, pp. 274-75). Charles is told to throw a rock at a tall white guard and reluctantly complies only to witness it being stopped in mid-flight, along with other rocks that were thrown. This display of technological superiority was designed to demonstrate to Charles, and presumably, the USAF, the failure of any kind of attack on the tall whites. However, rather than demonstrate the tall whites technological superiority, doesn’t this act of bravado achieve the very opposite? Doesn’t it reveal that the tall whites are perhaps too eager to impress upon Charles and the USAF the futility of any kind of attack on the tall whites? This eagerness most likely comes not from a sense of invulnerability, but from a perceived weakness that they are intending to hide.

It has been speculated by remote viewers such as Ingo Swann that extraterrestrial races with advanced technologies are actually quite vulnerable to the advanced psychic abilities of humans (Penetration: The Question of Extraterrestrial and Human Telepathy, 1998 ). If it is accurate that the tall whites feel vulnerable to some human potential that might threaten them, then it may be that psychic abilities are what the tall whites fear, rather than US military technology. If this is the case, then that might explain why Charles Hall has been allowed to come forward and reveal to the general public his remarkable contact experiences while serving in the USAF.

If the tall whites are engaging in resource extraction from Earth on terms that the US military and/or the ‘shadow government’ is unhappy with but feels unable to change, then the US military/Shadow government may be looking for some way to change the terms of their agreements. If Swann and others are correct about human psychic abilities and the potential of human consciousness, then releasing this information to the general public may be a means of introducing global consciousness as a factor in what has been secretly occurring.

In conclusion, Charles Hall reveals important details about the nature of the agreements between US government/military authorities and the tall whites. The resource extraction that is occurring may be nothing more than the benign exchange of food, clothes and metals for advanced technology supplied by the tall whites. On the other hand, a more sinister extraction of Earth resources is happening, one that may involve the relocation of humans who are fed and clothed by material supplied to the tall whites by the USAF, who feel powerless to prevent this. Whatever the truth concerning the resource extraction that is happening, it is important that the general public become informed of what is occurring in these secret trade agreements, and ensure that such transactions are marked by transparency, accountability and a democratic decision making process. Not only are these desirable political processes an ethical response to the trade agreements with the tall whites, these processes may prove to be a very wise strategic move in dealing with a more technologically advanced extraterrestrial race.

© Michael E. Salla, PhD
December 16, 2004

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In a December 11, 2016 report, secret space program whistleblower Corey Goode described an announcement of the existence of Tall White extraterrestrials as an option being considered for a limited disclosure initiative orchestrated by the U.S. Air Force, Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency.  Goode said:

Another potential plan that is in the “optional” category involves the possible disclosure of a single ET group known as the “Tall Whites.” This is the group that Charles Hall and others have met up with. The Cabal might try to introduce us to this group, explain they have been around for a really long time, and hope that they can get us to follow a mystical new religion offered by these beings. This would definitely not be in humanity’s best interest.

In order to acquaint readers to Charles Hall and his testimony concerning the Tall Whites, and why Goode’s conclusion about them is accurate, I have decided to re-post a series of articles and interviews about Hall’s testimony, which began in November 2004. What follows is the second article in the series. The first article is available here.

Michael Salla, Ph.D.

Dec 26, 2016

[Repost from Dec 3, 2004] What follows is based on an interview with Charles Hall on Dec 2, 2004, regarding the existence of the tall white extraterrestrials that he met while serving at Nellis Air Force base as a duty weather observer from 1965-67. His experiences are recorded in his three volume set of books, Millennial Hospitality. I had earlier read the first two volumes of his book series and recorded my impressions in a short article. I was put in touch with Charles Hall by Paola Harris who was the first major UFO researcher to thoroughly investigate the case.

In the interview, I asked a series of questions and recorded his replies by taking notes. My aim in conducting the interview was to get a better idea of the motivations of the ‘tall whites’ and their exopolitical significance on Earth. I begin this evaluation of my interview by first outlining my questions and Charles Hall’s replies. I finish with my evaluation of his testimony and books which I believe is vitally important as a possible disclosure initiative that will attract much public attention and carries great exopolitical significance.

Michael E. Salla, PhD
December 3, 2004

Q. Why did you call the book a work of fiction?
He had to protect himself and men who served with him. He changed names to protect the innocent, including himself and other serviceman. People he replaced experienced severe psychological pressure and trauma. Some wouldn’t want to be mentioned so he didn’t give their correct names. He affirmed that everything in the books is true. It is as close to a documentary of events he experienced as possible.

Q. How did you recall all conversations recorded in the book?
He didn’t keep a dairy, but kept a log book. He basically relied on memory in writing the book. He relived the emotions as he covered each experience, and this helped his recollection of events and conversations. Key episodes were basically etched into his mind. He had to summarize many conversations. Some conversations had to be reconstructed. Usually conversations with other airmen are summarized/reconstructed. Conversations with tall whites are close to verbatim since the Tall whites didn’t talk much. Tall White men especially didn’t speak much at all. Tall white women were more talkative than the men. If Tall Whites didn’t wear their communication equipment, then they wouldn’t communicate at all. Charles wanted to capture all the emotions he experienced and these are faithfully recorded in the book.

Q. When did you start writing the books?
He first tried telling people verbally about his experiences during 1965-68. When he got a word processor in 1985, he began the typing process using floppy disks. Writing was a slow process for technical reasons and also emotionally since he relived the experiences and this took much time. For example, it took six months before he could control his fears of the tall whites back in 1965.

Q. When did you finish the book?
Back in the 1980s he had trouble in finding a potential publisher for his planned autobiography and also had family responsibilities. In 2002 he became unemployed and began to edit, polish, and publish what he had written so far. The publisher he found, Firstbook.com allowed him to publish it as a ‘print-on-demand’ book where he controlled copyright, etc. He is still not satisfied with what has been published so far, and wants to edit the first volume one more time. Basically the book was work in progress since 1985 up until 2002. Final editing was done from late 2002 to early 2003.

Q. Did you ever take photos?
He never took any photos. When out there by himself he was worried about keeping himself alive and taking photos wasn’t thought of. Initially he thought he was dreaming (that’s why he believes Area 51 is called dreamland). This was a reason why he never thought about taking photos. Later when he realized that the tall whites were real, he talked himself out of it when he went back to his base, so he didn’t think about photos.
Also, he didn’t want to offend the tall whites and stayed on his best behavior. He didn’t think taking pictures was prudent and might offend them, and they could destroy the evidence anyway since they always had access to his belongings.

Q. Did any of the other servicemen ever take pictures of Tall Whites that you were aware of?
He was not aware of that happening, but recalled a paperback book published back in early 1990s there is a set of pictures of tall whites which he believes are authentic. These were published by a New Jersey housewife who traveled to Albuquerque New Mexico and said that she waited on a public highway when she saw a scout craft and she took six pictures of the tall whites standing 6′ 6″. He believes photos are authentic. The implication was that some serviceman had taken the photos and sent them to the author who gave a cover story for how she got the photos. He couldn’t recall the name of the book or the author.

Q. Have you ever been approached or briefed by agencies not to disclose the events on Nellis?
No. He said that weather information was never classified. As a weather observer he was never part of a classified project where security oaths were taken. The orders given to Charlie were classified, but nothing he did was ever to be classified. That was a decision taken by a committee including the tall whites and others in the Pentagon. The idea was that Charlie would be free to interact with the tall whites without being continually briefed. He said that the American generals would do anything to get technology transfers. Generals would permit tall whites to kill service men if they were offended, threatened or harmed. He described an incident in his book where a serviceman had to beg for his life when he yelled at a tall white child. The only reason the tall white didn’t kill him according to Charles was that a tall white male came over to the tall white female and told her that since the serviceman hadn’t hurt the child, the American generals wouldn’t understand why she would kill the serviceman. Charles said that the generals however thought military servicemen were expendable, and wouldn’t allow any killing by the tall whites to stop technology transfers.

Q. Were other servicemen killed by tall whites for offending them?
He explained an incident back in Sept 1965 near the mountain at Indian Springs where the tall whites had their main hangar. One of the cover stories for sightings of tall whites was that they were big horn sheep in the desert. One hunter wanted to shoot one of the ‘sheep’ and rented horses and went with his friend. The hunters eventually separated, and one hunter went near the hangar where the tall whites are based, and took a shot at one of the kids. The tall whites grabbed him and handed him to the human guards who were military personnel. The human guards shot him and gave a cover story for his accidental death. The guards found his friend and beat him up, and threw him into the brig for about six weeks.

Charles said that usually if one wasn’t hurting anyone and was just unarmed and hiking, etc., tall whites wouldn’t bother one. Basically, they would kill if threatened if any way. They believe in tit for tat. If you did nothing to scare or hurt them, the worst they would is to pleasantly scare you away.

Q. You say that the Generals were desperate for technology exchange with tall whites, why do you say that?
They would do anything to maintain good relations with tall whites to get technology.
The tall white ‘Teacher’ had conversations with Charles that demonstrated this. American generals wouldn’t stop tall whites if they were intent on killing servicemen who had hurt any tall white child. Tall whites exchanged technologies such as radio and communications systems, but not faster than light speed technology. Technology exchange was done on the basis on only those technologies that would benefit Tall Whites, such as good radios and communications that they could use as well if necessary.

He gave the example that the tall whites would help with a nuclear powered craft but not propulsion systems for deep space travel. Anti-gravity technologies were not shared with the generals which were deep space capable. American generals were sometimes in the scout craft of the tall whites so the technology for the scout ships was shared to an extent since the scout ships were made on Earth using materials here with the assistance of the US military. Tall Whites sometimes participated in classified meetings and helped with technology development. Charles describes how much of the technology transfer occurs. Basically, the tall whites would participate in classified meetings by sitting in and helping with some well placed questions.

Q. In vol one, you describe an incident where mental images entered your mind about the Tall Whites in the frontier era, can you explain?
Charles described how he was reading the History of the West, and the history of Death Valley and Indian Springs, he remembered mental images of tall whites in the frontier era when the Tall Whites. These images just entered his mind when the tall whites were nearby, and left when the tall whites departed.

Q. In the book, you mention 1954 as the first time reports of the Tall Whites were made in the vicinity of Nellis. Is there any earlier date or evidence you would think would support the presence of the Tall Whites presence in the area?
He said that the legend of Range Four Harry (a description used for the tall whites by servicemen at the Nellis base) went back at least as far least 1954.

Q. Do you think these mental images you observed were real historical events or fabricated?
He felt that the mental images were based on real historical events. He noted that when the tall whites moved away, the images stopped. This suggested that the tall whites were feeding him these images to give him historical information that they wanted to pass on.

Q. Do you believe that Tall Whites have been in the Indian Springs area for a couple of hundred years?
Yes. He was told that Pamela (a tall white) was born in that valley during the James Madison era. They like the valley because it’s hot and that is an important requirement for them.

What do you think the motivations of the Tall Whites are in terms of their presence on Earth?
They used the base as a place for their deep space craft. Same as the way US Navy would use a base in the Pacific. They used the base to refuel, repair and refit their deep space craft. He talked about the long distances in space and need for a base on a planet like Earth where they can get supplies, make repairs, etc. Since deep space craft arrived and left on schedule, this meant they were engaged in commerce.

Q. Basically you believe they just wish to use Earth as a base for their deep space travel, and don’t have any ulterior motive to colonize the Earth or dominate national governments?
Yes, that’s his belief. From the tall white’s point of view, they are very happy with what they have, and their long life span – ten times longer than we do. They took ten times longer to age and also to heal. They were amazed at how quickly Hall could heal, and he described how they watched him closely when he bruised himself and healed within a day.

Charles argues that the tall whites like to keep to themselves, and don’t have any interest in dominating the Earth or taking over governments. They just want to maintain friendly relations with the US government so they can continue to use the base. He affirms that they are not interested in dominating or colonizing the Earth.

Q. In vol three, you describe an incident where you were burned by microwave weapons, can you elaborate?
He explained how the pencil weapon can be used by the tall whites to cause great pain, death, or sleep. He describes an incident where a CIA guard tried to help a tall white female in getting up the stairs at the Congressional building, but the guard inadvertently hurt the tall white and she threatened CIA guard who had to beg for his life. He explains that the pencil weapon can be used to stimulate calcium atomic frequencies to cause great pain like being burned, but one was not actually burned. When the iodine setting is used by the stun gun it can cause one to bleed to death. He compared this to the black plague when people would bleed to death due to arteries being weakened and blood would leak out causing death. In an email, Charles clarified how the pencil weapon works: “The pencil weapon could be set to stimulate the atomic frequencies of Sodium, Calcium or Iodine. Stimulating the Sodium atoms caused immense pain because it caused the nerves to discharge. If the weapon is set high enough, it can cause instant death. Stimulating the Calcium atoms caused the reverse (i.e. sleep, calmness, relaxation etc ) because it causes the nerves to reset and relax. Stimulating the Iodine atoms, of course, as described in book three, causes death by internal bleeding because it causes chemical changes that allow the blood to pass through the walls of the arteries in and around the thyroid gland.”

He said that tall whites tempers can change very quickly from friendly to hostile. The pencil weapon was used against Charles in a misunderstanding that was described in his book where but the iodine setting was used which caused internal bleeding. He recalls seeing a friendly tall white female approach him when he was lying hurt and she did a kind of graceful dance around him. In an email he described that tall white as “a young female, probably equivalent to a human young woman of age 19. she stood approximately 5’10 – 5′ 11” tall. She had a male companion who I always guessed was her brother because the two of them looked like fraternal twins. She and I were completely unafraid of each other. On a number of
evenings when I was making the morning balloon run, she would come up and stand beside or near me or slightly behind me. Frequently she would come within arm’s length and still not show the slightest fear of me. Likewise, when she came in that close, I also did not feel any particular fear of her either. Her brother, by comparison, was always noticeably afraid of me and always kept his distance from me ( usually he stayed back at least 50 – 60 feet ). He obviously liked me, but also, he obviously never trusted me. For example, he would never turn his back to me when he was anywhere in my area ( i.e. within a 100 feet ).

Q. If this could occur to you after all the trust that was developed with the Tall Whites, what does that suggest for most members of humanity?
The idea that Tall Whites can turn on one and use weapons even despite all the good things that have been done is generally correct. Tall Whites differ very much in temperament and personality as do humans. He explained an incident involving a tall white general who wouldn’t brook any discussion and could be cruel if he felt he was not being obeyed to the letter. Yet the tall white doctor was quite friendly and would approach very closely. So basically the tall whites are quite varied in terms of personality.

The tall white captain described in Charles book was a nice enough guy, but he only came around humans when it was necessary. He only wanted to know about humans to the extent it would help him do his job. A cultural difference was evident as in cases where Americans might befriend a Japanese, but wouldn’t want to socialize with Japanese. He stressed that tall whites vary tremendously in personality.

Q. When was the last time you directly communicated with a Tall White?
He referred to what was described in book three which is when he left for military service in Vietnam in 1967. Subsequent to then, he has had no communication with the tall whites.

Final Comments by Charles Hall.
There are many episodes he had that he didn’t include in the book. For example, in 1965 American generals were showing Tall White Generals through the military barracks that he slept in. When that first started happening, he thought he was dreaming. He remembers Generals talking to Tall Whites about taking Air force officers with the tall whites on scout craft. In an email, Charles elaborated on this: “The American Generals were deiscussing the possibility of the tall whites taking two young American Officers on board the Tall White’s Black Deep Space craft ( ie. to another nearby star ). I personnally saw the American Genrals themselves with their tall white counterparts boarding and deboarding the white scout craft.” He thought the discussion was too risky to include since it included what he felt was sensitive material that was probably classified.

He stressed how the tall whites would follow agreements to the letter. He gave the example of an agreement he had with the tall whites. They would basically never sneak up behind him and scare him, and he would be sure to never do the same to him to them. This agreement was closely followed in all the interactions Charles had with the tall whites and helped him survive. Basically, he believed the tall whites could be trusted once they had agreed to something.

Evaluation and Exopolitical Analysis of Charles Hall
I found Charles Hall to be very credible and compelling in his response to questions. He displays great integrity and is quite sincere in describing solely the facts concerning his experiences. He described his experiences with the Tall Whites in a very objective manner, and the emotional reality of the experiences were quite vivid and conveyed much information about his state of mind and the seriousness of the experiences he had. The emotions that Charles objectively described in great detail conveyed the extent to which what he was experiencing shook his world view, and the world views of those around him.

Charles knowledge of the tall white’s interaction with the US Air force generals is very enlightening in terms of the way agreements were followed to the letter. It appears that the tall whites are quite legalistic and this appears to be something that the US military finds to be helpful in working with them. This is very significant in the technology exchanges which Hall describes were vitally important for the US military. The tall whites were quite clear that only certain categories of technology would be shared. Categories that presumably would not give the US military deep space capabilities. According to Charles, this technology exchange involved the US collaborating in the construction of scout craft used by the Tall Whites. Providing the required material for the tall whites presumably would have helped US scientists understand the principles of space flight. Since this is what Charles observed in the mid 1960s, it may be presumed that larger constructions may have been more recently attempted that have more advanced propulsion systems than nuclear power. The exopolitical question here is what would the tall whites gain or have gained in return for allowing US authorities to collaborate in building larger space craft. If technology for smaller scout craft was given in exchange for basing rights, what Earth resources would be or have been traded for larger constructions using more advanced propulsion systems?

Charles Hall comes across as very thoughtful and very intelligent. He has a Master’s degree in nuclear physics and believes he has worked out some of the main principles of the tall white’s deep space propulsion system. He doesn’t pull any punches in describing the intimidating behavior of the Tall Whites, and their readiness to use deadly force to protect themselves and especially their children against potential threats – intended or otherwise. Even surprising or scaring tall white children could lead to tall white adults intimidating humans with their advanced weaponry as his book makes clear.

Significantly, in his book he describes how the tall whites would threaten to kill humans who scared or disobeyed them [for quotes click here]. In the interview, however, he focused on how the tall whites would only respond when they were threatened in some way. He stressed the principle of “tit for tat” that the tall whites followed which is well understood in human society and is a principle found in biblical documents (lex talionis). It appeared that in the interview, Charles was portraying the tall whites in a more reasonable light than described in his book. While it was clear that Charles was being as objective as possible, the discrepancy between his book narration and the interview in terms of the conditions when tall whites threatened to kill or intimidated military servicemen and humans in general, suggested he was painting a more sympathetic picture of their behavior than in the book. This is something I hope he can clarify later since it helps contextualize the motivations of the tall whites on Earth.

Charles describes the tall whites as having no ulterior designs on the Earth in terms of colonizing it or taking over governments. He stressed the analogy of the use of overseas bases by the US military such as in the case of US bases in Italy or the Pacific. The idea was that the use of such bases was purely done to facilitate the operations of the US military, while recognizing local sovereignty and customs. So just as the US government/military has no ulterior motive for control of Italy through its base there, so too the tall whites have no ulterior motivation to control the Earth.

This is quite a controversial argument since the control of bases throughout different periods of history is quite contentious, and was part of the dynamics that drove colonialism. Indeed, the existence of military bases in the Saudi Arabia were a major factor influencing regional perceptions of US motivations in the Middle East, and influenced events in Afghanistan and Iraq. If the tall whites need the Earth as a base for their deep space operations and commerce, then it would be naïve to believe they have no interest in influencing human affairs, and political institutions. Human history shows that when foreign powers establish bases on one’s territories, it’s hard to get such powers to leave, and to prevent them from interfering from local political affairs. We may have already achieved that point due to agreements reached between the secret committees managing extraterrestrial affairs and the tall whites.


Charles believes that the tall whites have been on Earth since at least the early 1950’s, and possibly as long as a hundred years or more based on what some Tall Whites related to him, and mental images he received when reading about local history of Indian springs. This will be a critical question to explore since obviously the time of the first appearance of the Tall Whites on Earth will influence our assessment of their ultimate goals here. If they have been here for a century or more as Hall suggests and which he was influenced to believe from the tall whites, then it would be fair to assess that they have no ulterior design on controlling the Earth. Presumably, they could have easily taken over control of the Earth in the early 19th century. If however the tall whites appeared subsequent to the 1954 Eisenhower-ET agreements (see here) then it is very likely that the Tall Whites have ulterior motives which go significantly beyond merely resupplying and repairing their deep space craft on route to other interstellar locations. The use of time travel technologies might be used by the tall whites to buttress the idea that they have been on Earth for centuries, but this could be entirely fabricated.

I believe that the tall whites were associated with the 1954 Eisenhower-ET meetings and that they subsequently established their base in the Indian Springs area of Nevada in that time period. It was clear that Charles was subtly influenced by the tall whites to believe they have been present in different periods of US history. The ability of the tall whites to refer to earlier historical periods and their presence is possibly due to advanced technologies such as time travel which they can use to influence our perceptions of their historical presence. This will be naturally controversial but is vitally important as knowledge of the tall whites becomes more widespread, and their exopolitical significance is discussed.

In sum, my view is that Charles Hall testimony is vitally important information that has great exopolitical significance, and is likely to gain widespread public interest. Already, various media outlets are treating the Charles Hall story as a major disclosure event, and Hall’s obvious integrity, clarity and coherence is generating much public interest. Hall’s disclosure of his experiences at Nellis Air Force base at Indian Springs from 1965-67 will likely play a major role in public disclosure of the extraterrestrial presence, and will help shape public perceptions of extraterrestrials and their presence on Earth.

© Michael E. Salla, PhD
December 3, 2004

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In a December 11, 2016 report, secret space program whistleblower Corey Goode described an announcement of the existence of Tall White extraterrestrials as an option being considered for a limited disclosure initiative orchestrated by the U.S. Air Force, Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency. Goode said:

Another potential plan that is in the “optional” category involves the possible disclosure of a single ET group known as the “Tall Whites.” This is the group that Charles Hall and others have met up with. The Cabal might try to introduce us to this group, explain they have been around for a really long time, and hope that they can get us to follow a mystical new religion offered by these beings. This would definitely not be in humanity’s best interest.

In order to acquaint readers to Charles Hall and his testimony concerning the Tall Whites, and why Goode’s conclusion about them is accurate, I have decided to re-post a series of articles and interviews about Hall’s testimony, which began in November 2004. What follows is the first article in the series.

Michael Salla, Ph.D.

Dec 15, 2016

[Repost: November 18, 2004] I recently received a message from one of Dr Richard Boylan’s lists discussing his views on the Tall Whites discussed in Charles Hall’s memoirs, Millennial Hospitality, vol 1-3. (the message is copied below). I find it quite disturbing that Boylan has moved quickly to unambiguously promote the Tall Whites discussed in the Charles Hall book to his various lists. Since Boylan has large lists and therefore has some influence in shaping the perceptions of a quite a number of people about different ET races, I’d like to elaborate a little on an earlier post in a discussion forum where I discussed the Tall Whites and Boylan’s advocacy of them.

Let me also reaffirm my earlier view that Hall’s information is an accurate reflection of what occurred at Nellis Air Force base during his Tour of Duty and therefore deserves serious attention. The researcher Paolo Harris has thoroughly investigated Hall’s claims and finds him to be credible making this an important case to fully understand in terms of its exopolitical significance.

Hall describes the Tall Whites as quite intimidating in terms of behavior and how they regularly stalked military servicemen on duty at the remote desert location where Hall served. The Tall Whites regularly caused powerful emotions of fear and even terror among the military servicemen who didn’t understand these Extraterrestrials or weren’t ready to interact with them in a friendly way. Yet the Tall Whites were also capable of exhibiting friendship qualities and of being teachers as in the case of Hall (see his website for details and extracts).

I’ve now completed the first two volumes of Hall’s memoirs and so far the behavior of the Tall Whites strikes me as very similar to abductee/experiencer reports of the behavior of the ‘Tall Gray’ category of ETs (the following references give the volume and page numbers from his book). There is an arrogance in the disposition of the Tall Whites and a contempt for humans displayed in their interactions with military servicemen who didn’t understand them or were frightened by them. This is similar to how `Tall Grays’ supervise many abductions and control/punish humans who resist the genetic experiments.

Hall for example describes one Tall White female who wanted to kill a military servicemen who unknowingly had hit her child with a stone and broke the child’s arm. The serviceman threw a stone at what he thought was a white dog stalking him around his hut based. Since the Tall Whites often stalked the servicemen, many serviceman thought they were wild animals and were quite frighened of them. The incident led to the Tall White threatening the servicemen with death if he didn’t leave immediately and promise to never return. This is how the serviceman in question described the incident to Hall:

I tried to reason with her. I told her that I hadn’t broken any little boy’s arm and that I liked to play with kids. She wouldn’t hear any of it. She told met that I was too stupid to know what I had done. Then she told me that the American generals had asked that I be given one warning before she and her friends killed me. She said that this was the warning. She said that if I ever came back out to the ranges alonges, their Captain would kill me. (vol 1, p. 247)

Other servicemen had similar negative encounters with the ‘Tall Whites’. One incident in particular is very revealing since it involved a cook at the Army Base who inadvertly went into the kitchen area on a day where the base was closed. He was threatened with death because he simply frightened some of the Tall White children. So there’s wasn’t any broken bones or hurting of the children, he simply scared them. Here’s how Charles `Charlie Baker’ Hall described the incident as the cook narrated what happened:

“They’re back there, Charlie. Don’t go back there. You’ll scare them like I did. They’ll kill you if you scare them. They told me so. That tall one in the corner, he told me so. He said he’d kill me if I ever scared their children again” (vol 1, p. 469).

Well Boylan makes a point in his post below about the Tall Whites using 8″ microwave stun guns to incapacitate people. Well stunning humans is not apparently the Tall White practice as revealed in the following section where a female Tall White is talking about how Charles Hall saved her daughter to an Air Force General:

“You know general, before now, I would have never thought it possible. If my daughter had tried to approach any of the others, the way she walked right up to Charlie today, they would have panicked and we would have had to kill them all” (vol 1, p. 452).

If the Tall Whites are so humane with their stun guns, why would they have to kill all the panicking soldiers rather than just stun them as Boylan describes?

Now Charles Hall saved the life of a Tall white child whose mother was a `Teacher’ and subsequently he became known as the `Teacher’s Pet’ in a project she started to get Tall White children used to humans. This is how the `teacher’ introduced `Charlie’ to the mothers of some Tall White children:

This is `Charlie Baker,’ [Hall] the teacher stated proudly. “He is just perfect for my pet project. See how gentle he is, and see how easily we can control him” (vol 1, p. 448).

So it’s clear how controlling these Tall White ETs are, and the condescending attitude they have for even those humans who have done them a service. Nevertheless, the role Hall played in the teacher’s project gave him a certain value as the “teacher’s pet” which meant that the tall Whites would kill other servicemen who may have threatened the life of Charles Hall in the sensitive secuirty environment surrounding the tall Whites base of operations. In the following passage, a Sargent narrates to fellow military security guard the consequences, according to a tall White known as ‘Harry’, if they threatened the “teacher’s pet’. Apparently, in a security drill they had drawn their guns on someone claiming to be the “teacher’s pet”:

Harry said the Real teacher’s Pet is too valuable for us to ever draw our guns on him. He said if the Real Teachers’s pet were ever killed, he could never be replaced. Old Harry said that if Sam and me had been facing the Real Teacher’s Pet, once we actually pointed our guns at him, or once he fell to the ground, both of use would have been killed instantly, before we were even aware that we were bing fired on. He said those were the direct orders he’d receiveed from the Teacher. He said both Sam and me would have been killed without warning and that neither of our guns would have ever fired. (vol 2. 179).

Yet despite having saved the teacher’s child and being the “teacher’s pet” would not save Hall if he inadvertently hurt a child in the teacher’s project as evidenced by a mother talking to her Tall White son in front of Hall:

“Alright”, replied his mother, “You may join the teacher’s pet project. Remember! Do not get too close to him, and remember, if anything ever goes wrong, if Charlie ever touches you, I will ask your uncle Harry to kill him (vol 1, p.449).

Hall was also threatened with death if he in some way interfered with the plans by the tall Whites as described in the following conversation with a tall White who was guarding a procession of tall Whites while Hall was present :

Then the Guard said forcefully, “You know that if anything goes wrong with this plan we can kill you any time we want to.” Standing my ground still shaking in fear, I replied, “Yes, but I havent’ given you any reason to kill me. Anyway, you haven’t killed me yet so you are probably not going to.” The guard smiled and replied, “You are quite right. We could have killed you in the shack the other night if we wanted to.” Then he turned and walked back to the procession. Stopping for a minute near the shorter woman he said: “See. Now he knows for sure that we will kill him if anything ever goes wrong. (vol 2, p. 113.)

Finally, if there is any doubt in the reader’s mind as to whether the Tall Whites actually kill humans who disobey/threaten them, here’s a section describing what was told by one sergeant to another who were part of a military group that accompanied a Lt-General at a high level meeting with the Tall Whites:

Tell them [a group of sergeants] to remember the teacher has ordered them to stay out of sight behind the lounge. Remember if they disobey the teacher’s orders, she will kill them as she killed the others, and there is nothing I can do about it. (vol 1, p. 447)

So here we have a very brutal doctrine of killing military servicemen who disobey orders and that this has occurred in the past.

Now as to the identity of the `Tall Whites’. Hall points to Arcturus as their origins as implied in the following passage where Hall is addressing a group of tall Whites::

A ripple of emotion passed through the crowd when I mentioned the star Arcturus, some 36 light years away. After a short pause, the older lady asked with some surprise, “Teacher, does Charlie know where we come from?” (vol 2, p. 147)

However the intimidating behavior of the tall Whites is not at all consistent with descriptions I’ve seen of the Arcturians. If there is some connection with Arcturus, it may be purely genetic as the Tall Grays have a reputation for extracting genetic material from different races. The Arcturian connection may have been no more than a period where Arcturians were involuntarily taken on board Gray ships and incorporated into their genetic experiments in much the same way that humans are taken up by Grays on Earth. Thus Gray-human hybrids may be taken to other solar systems and claim to be Earthlings, yet this is purely a genetic connection.

Now as to the Nordic appearance of the Tall Whites, again, this is likely due to some genetics taken from a Nordic race. For example, George Andrews describes in his book, Extraterrestrial Friends and Foes (p. 153), how a contactee was told how the Grays allegedly took over the Nordic world on Procyon as follows:

The Grays began to visit us, first a few as ambassadors, then as specialists in various domains where their expertise could be useful to us, as participants in different programs that involved mutual collaboration, and finally as tourists. What had begun as a trickle became a flood, as they came in ever-increasing numbers, slowly but surely infiltrating our society at all levels, penetrating even the most secret of our elite power groups…. Just as on your planet they began by unobtrusively gaining control over key members of the CIA and KGB through techniques unknown to them, such as telepathic hypnosis that manipulates the reptilian levels of the brain, so on Procyon through the same techniques … they established a kind of telepathic hypnotic control over our leaders. Over our leaders and over almost all of us, because it was as if we were under a spell that was leading us to our doom, as if we were being programmed by a type of ritual black magic that we did not realize existed.”

Hall mentions in his book that the Tall Whites began to establish a presence in the Nevada area in 1954 (vol, p. 236). This is the same year that Eisenhower met with and established agreements with the Tall Grays from Orion. My conclusion is that the Tall Whites are closely associated with the Tall Grays from Orion. Furthermore, these most likely come from Rigel, Orion which was a former Nordic world taken
over by the Grays. I’ve described this incident in my ET Motivations Report here. This accounts for the Tall Whites Nordic features that Hall describes, and their Gray/Reptilian characteristics such as 4 digit hands with two inch claws rather than nails.

My overall conclusion is the same with all the extraterrestrial races who have struck agreements with the US government and established a presence on Earth in exchange for extraterrestrial technology, and working in joint projects. They should be very closely watched and frankly regarded with much suspicion in terms of their motivations for participating in such agreements. Now given the disturbing behavior of the Tall Whites as Hall describes them, frankly I’m appalled that a researcher such as Boylan would consider such a race as exemplary Star Visitors which we should befriend, as he is currently advocating.

As I’ve described in my report on extraterrestrial motivations, there are many other extraterrestrial races who are more honorable and display much more elevated qualities. Reading the `contactee’ reports of these extraterrestrials Pleiadians, Andromedans, Lyrans, etc., doesn’t leave one with feelings of distrust and apprehension. On the contrary one often feels a great degree of love and joy, coming through. For example, I recall reading George Adamski’s discussion of the ‘Venusians’ and how they would rather give their lives when cornered rather than inflict injuries on other sentient life forms (http://www.universe-people.com/adamsk_e.htm ). It sounds very Christ-like, and while I don’t personally agree that such an attitude is very practical, it does have an emotional impact to know that some ETs actually practice elevated ethics that most would consider Christlike. The contrast with the `Tall Whites’ Hall describes couldn’t be greater.

Importantly, contactees such as Billy Meier, Alex Collier, Enrique Castillo, etc., say that the Pleiadian and Andromedan extraterrestials they interacted with, warned about working with the Grays who have a reputation for infiltrating worlds and taking them over and using the captive population for genetic material.

This finally takes me to Dr Richard Boylan who is now openly advocating his supporters to establish telepathic communications with the Tall Whites in a series of experiments. As one can see from his post he doesn’t mention the disturbing incidents described in Hall’s book, and just gives a glowing assessment of the Tall Whites, and the need to get in touch with them.

Boylan has consistently ignored all the evidence of negative behavior by the Grays and other ET races such as the Reptilians, and criticized researchers or `abductees’ who have pointed out the negative behavior. I’ve written a short piece some time ago pointing out the flaws in Boylan’s research approach in doing this, but he has not taken the hint to change tack.

Boylan is essentially behaving like a propagandist for the Tall Whites ignoring the negative incidents involving the Tall Whites which were reported by Hall himself. This is spinning of the information something Boylan has down with other whistleblowers such as Michael Wolf. Paolo Harris for example interviewed Wolf and found that he responded to a question on the benevolent/hostile ET issue in terms of an `alien barrier’ that quarantines the Earth in the following way: “The negative ETs might get through occasionally, and that is what anti-alien UFOlogists point out.”

Now Dr Wolf is here acknowledging the existence of negative ET’s so it certainly is not disinformation to posit negative extraterrestrials unless Dr Wolf himself is spreading disinformation. Yet Boylan has been careful not to acknowledge this information or allow it to be distributed on his lists. He has done similar things with other whistleblowers such as Robert Dean and Clifford Stone who refer to negative extraterrestrials.

To summarize, Boylan is dismissing the negative incidents described in the Hall book and giving an upbeat assessment of the more positive interactions of the Tall Whites. Dr Boylan is now acting as a Tall White propagandist, and advocating them as a kind of exemplary model of `Star Visitors’ that we should eagerly seek to cultivate.

In conclusion, the Tall Whites are likely a genetic variation of the Tall Grays, and most likely originate from the Rigel star system of Orion where a Nordic world was alledly infiltrated and taken over according to the testimonies of a number of contactees. This Nordic world whose genetic material is used along with other races such as the Arcturians is used to build hybrids that ultimately appear to be Nordic ETs, but are much closer to the `tall Grays’ and their questionable agendas.

The Tall Whites should be treated with extreme caution and suspicion. I recommend that individuals choose to establish contact with more benign extraterrestrial races such as the Sirians, Pleiadians, Andromedans who don’t have a track record in abductions or intimidating humans. The thought experiments Dr Richard Boylan is advocating to his members to get in touch with the Tall Grays is based on a propagandized version of the Tall White `star visitors’.

In peace

Michael E. Salla, PhD
Email: drsalla@exopolitics.org

Website: www.exopolitics.org

[Extract of Message from Dr Richard Boylan: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrRichBoylanReports/message/1226]


Recent communication exchange with former USAF Airman Charles J. Hall, author of the “Millennial Hospitality” trilogy, coupled with content revealed in his books, brings forth the following interesting revelations. There exists an extraterrestrial race whom Mr. Hall has called the Tall Whites. This race originates from a location near the star Arcturus. These Tall Whites are in adulthood around six feet in height and have generally humanoid features. They have blond hair, generally worn short, and the women tend to wear their hair in a feminine form of short cut. They are blue-eyed, and have larger-than-human eyes which wrap part-way around the side of their head. The Tall Whites otherwise look quite human, except that their skin is a chalky-white in color. They have hands with four fingers, which do not end in finger nails but rather in harder, two-inch-long claw-like appendages. The typical clothing of the Tall Whites is an aluminized, chalk-white jump suit of canvas-looking fabric. They also wear gloves of the same material, and an open, white, motorcycle-like helmet. Both the suit and the helmet emit a three-inch-out field of soft-white flourescent light. The intensity of this emitted light can be varied from soft to too bright to look at without strain.

These Tall Whites have very high intelligence and an information-processing speed which Mr. Hall estimates at 3-1/2 times faster than bright humans. The Tall Whites’s technology is advanced. One element of their technology is a transporter suit which they put on which provides personal antigravity levitation and above-ground movement, as well as force-field protection against attacks, e.g., would slow a bullet to where it would fall to the ground.

Another element of their technology is their spacecraft. They operate smaller scout ships which can transport a limited number of individuals. And then they have deep-space vessels than can travel between star systems. Their scout craft are white in color, ellipsoidal or egg-shaped, with a molded flat bottom. It has a row of large windows on each side, sort of like an airplane. Its size is comparable to that of a passenger train’s diesel engine, and has two windows in front like such a train diesel engine.

The range of these scout craft permit travel as far as the Moon or even Mars. But not deep space.
Their deep-space vessels are very large, sleek, black antigravity craft, 70 feet high, 300 feet wide, and 500 feet long. These vessels also have pilot windows, as well as have regularly-spaced running lights along their edges. Their range extends out many light years into space. Their top speed exceeds the speed of light by a considerable margin. Yes, Einstein was wrong about that.

The Tall Whites in their interactions with humans often carry stun devices for protection, eight-inch-long white tubes which can emit a microwave beam that can excite the sodium atoms in the nervous system of a threatening human and render the human unconscious for a limited period of time.

A contingent of Tall Whites have been resident in the Indian Springs Valley region of central Nevada since before the first Euro-American settlers moved west. These Tall Whites have found Earth to be a convenient way-station in their travels within this sector of the galaxy. As Charles Hall explains it, Earth’s sun is located in the middle of a very large, 10-light-year-diameter empty section of the galaxy. Most stars occur in groups, with another star within two light-months distance. Thus, for civilizations living on star systems near this empty-space “bubble”, Earth serves as a handy mid-way rest, supply and repair station.
The Tall Whites have established a residential location within French Peak, about 25 miles north-northwest of Indian Springs Auxiliary Air Force Station, Nevada. They also have a main base and space vehicle repair facility which is also built into the side of a hill at the north end of Indian Springs Valley, not too many miles from their residential location.

When Tall Whites deep-space vessels approach Earth from space, they make an initial landing at Dog Bone Lake, 25 miles east of French Peak on the Nellis Air Force Range, Nevada. Then they make a lateral transition to the main hanger, where huge doors part to admit the vessel, then re-close.
Presidents (including LBJ), select top Senators and Congressmembers, and select Generals and Admirals are aware of, and have actually met Tall Whites, either at carefully-arranged events in Washington, DC, or on the Nellis Air Force Base Range, Nevada The Tall Whites have made arrangements with the U.S. government at the highest levels to have their central-Nevada facilities undisturbed. In exchange they provide advanced scientific and technological information which has permitted rapid advances in science and technology on Earth. Some of their scientists work as technical consultants at advanced laboratory installations, including northern California, Nevada, and elsewhere.

The Tall Whites facilities in central Nevada serve as locale for Visitors from other star system to come and study the English language and American culture. These Visitors aree intensely curious about life and customs on Earth.

In the light,

Richard Boylan, Ph.D.


© Michael E. Salla, PhD
November 18, 2004

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Fars News Agency story on Nazi Space aliens running USA

Fars News Agency story on Nazi Space aliens running USA

On Monday, the Washington Post released a most unusual story with the headline: “Iranian news agency says the U.S. is secretly run by Nazi space aliens.” Though the author, Max Fisher along with the Washington Post Foreign Staff, qualified the headline with the word, “Really,” it was clear that this was breaking new ground for the Post. The Washington Post’s Foreign Staff were giving a fresh perspective to the word “Foreign” by seriously examining claims by the Iranian media that the U.S. was being run by space aliens. Normally, such claims are found in conspiracy web sites and the alternative media. Now a bastion of the Fourth Estate was examining such claims with gusto. Yes, Fars News Agency, Iran’s semi-official news outlet, was indeed claiming that the U.S. was run by space aliens, and this merited a response by no less than the Washington Post. The floodgates were now opened. The U.S. and other world media dutifully followed the Post’s lead and began running their own stories. Forbes, Jerusalem Post, UPI, Huffington Post, The Blaze and other news sources were now covering the Iranians’ stunning claim. Was it all Iranian propaganda or is there truth to the claim that a group of space aliens are secretly running the world’s last remaining superpower?

To begin with let’s turn to the original story by the Fars news agency that appeared on Sunday with the title: “Snowden Documents Proving “US-Alien-Hitler” Link Stun Russia” Fars began the story as follows:

A stunning Federal Security Services (FSB) report on the nearly two million highly classified top-secret documents obtained from the United States Department of Defense (DOD) run National Security Agency-Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) by the American ex-patriot Edward Snowden states that this information is providing “incontrovertible proof” that an “alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda” is driving US domestic and international policy, and has been doing so since at least 1945.

The only source for Fars stunning claim was a story by Sorcha Faal on the conspiracy website, Whatdoesitmean.com. Faal has a notorious reputation for sprinkling patent falsehoods with genuine information and is viewed suspiciously by many conspiracy theorists. Nevertheless, Fars went on to reference an interview given by Former Canadian Defense Minister, Paul Hellyer to Russia Today as confirmation for its story. In the interview, Hellyer cites his own research and experiences supporting his claim that the world has been visited by extraterrestrials for thousands of years, and that U.S. leaders began being visited by aliens shortly after the Second World War.

Hellyer cited Charles Hall, a former US Air Force airman, who claims to have personally witnessed high level cooperation between a race of extraterrestrials he called the “Tall Whites,” and very senior Pentagon officials at Nellis Air Force base in the early 1960s. Hall has written four books about his experiences after he first went public in 2004. Fars gave a new twist to Hellyer’s and Hall’s claims by claiming that the Tall White extraterrestrials were behind the stunning technological rise of Nazi Germany. The Tall Whites therefore qualified as Nazi space aliens, and with the collapse of Nazi Germany, then began cooperating with the U.S. Over the decades of cooperation since, the Tall Whites had gradually taken over key elements of the U.S. national security establishment. According to Fars, all this was the final conclusion reached in the top secret study conducted by the Russian state security organization, the FSB (successor to the KGB), after researching Edward Snowden’s leaked NSA documents.

For those such as this writer, the information first released by Hall in 2004 is not new. Many of Hall’s claims along with supporting evidence was covered in my 2009 book, Exposing U.S. Government Policies on Extraterrestrial Life. What is new, however, is that a former Canadian Defense minister, has publicly endorsed Hall’s claims, and now major news media have begun seriously covering Hellyer’s vocal support for the veracity of Hall’s claims.

According to Fisher and the Washington Post Foreign Staff:

Yes, this story is highly entertaining, as are many of the bizarre conspiracy theories proposed by official or semi-official news agencies in authoritarian states. But there’s also a more serious undercurrent here. A worldview that sees the U.S. as an evil hegemonic force so irrationally driven toward global domination that it must be run by space aliens is not a worldview that is predisposed toward negotiation or accommodation.

Fisher’s conclusion is that claims of Nazi space aliens running the US is propaganda by Iran’s hardline factions to rule out cooperation with the U.S. in current nuclear negotiations. On the other hand, by giving the claims of the Fars News Agency serious coverage, the Washington Post was doing more than simply reveal the intransigence of Iran’s hardline factions. It was giving serious news coverage to claims that have been on fringe conspiracy websites for years.

The US national security apparatus has been allegedly negotiating and colluding with space aliens for years according to multiple sources cited in Exposing US Government Policies on Extraterrestrial Life. If some of these sources are accurate, it is feasible that U.S. sovereignty has been seriously compromised. Now the Washington Post has made such controversial claims legitimate material for the Fourth Estate to examine in light of current nuclear negotiations between Iran and the world community. Whether propaganda, truth, or a mixture of both, the Washington Post’s examination of Fars News Agency claims of the U.S. being run by Nazi space aliens has sparked an international debate.

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