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20 Years & back with the French Secret Space Program

In this Exopolitics Today interview, Jean Charles Moyen discusses extraterrestrial contact experiences that culminated in him being identified by French officials as a potential candidate for France’s Secret Space Program (SSP). Jean Charles explains the role of a Galactic Confederation that cooperated with French authorities in his recruitment and training that began at age 13, and his subsequent SSP service that began at age 21. One of his trainers was a blond blue eyed female called Maria, which he later learned was Maria Orsic. After his formal recruitment into France’s military, he served on two spacecraft belonging to a joint Franco-US space fleet from 1991 to 2011( the Solaris and the Excelsior) before being age regressed and returned to his point of departure.

In this first public interview to an English speaking audience, Jean Charles responds to a set of questions submitted in advance which are read out. The interview was conducted in this way to facilitate Jean Charles responding in English, which is his second language.

Interview available on YouTube & Rumble

Audio Podcast for Apple, Google, Anchor & Spotify available here

My thanks to Jean Charles Moyen for permission to use his graphics to illustrate our interview.

Michael E. Salla, Ph.D.

Jean Charles movie “South Shore Origin” is available on Vimeo

Jean Charles video series “Alien Connexion,” which comprises 15 episodes about his life experiences, is available for free on YouTube.

His video “Starseed Revelation” which offers more details about his life experiences is available on Vimeo

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Interview Transcript


Interview published on 12/26/2021 on YouTube & Rumble

[MS – Michael Salla; JC – Jean Charles Moyen]

[MS] Well I’d like to welcome Jean Charles Moyen to Exoolitics Today. I’m very pleased to have you Jean Charles all the way from Quebec and we are here through zoom.

[JC] Thank you Michael.

[MS] Well, I’m really looking forward to this Jean Charles because people know very little about the French secret space program and you are someone that can give us an idea of what is happening in that program and the connection to extraterrestrial life. So first of all I’d like to just begin Jean Charles by saying or asking you the question. Throughout your early life you had a number of psychic or ‘high strangeness’ experiences, at what point do you believe French officials learned of your special abilities?

[JC] I think they discovered it when I had serious sunstroke when I was in summer camp at the age of thirteen, when I was hospitalized and they had to scan my brain, strangely the scanner wasn’t working properly. The first X-ray revealed a spot on my brain, at first they suspected a dust on the scan, they had to do the X-ray twice, but the second time the X-ray revealed a mysterious object looking like a small metal capsule.

[MS] Can you describe the incident in 1981, when at age 12, you woke up during the night and saw Victor rummaging through your bedroom. What did he look like? Describe how you weren’t supposed to see him and what happened next in him confiding to you his identity and mission.

[JC] I often heard rummaging in my room at night, and when I wanted to turn around to see what it was, a force would stick to my bed and I couldn’t move, I could only hear rummaging. But one night I slept on my back so that I could open my eyes more easily in front of me. And that’s when I first saw him, he was in the dark, he was tall. And when he saw that I had seen him he didn’t move.

 He was thinking certainly, if I don’t move, he doesn’t see me. Suddenly he moved, I said “I SEE YOU”, he came closer and he came out of the darkness, I could see him in detail with my little night lamp, he was about six feet tall, he had no hair, green skin and completely red eyes without pupils.

 He sat down at the end of the bed and said: “Hello, my name is Victor” and I said to him: “But what are you doing here?” and he answered: “You are not supposed to see me, because your vibratory frequency is not able to pick up the frequency I am in.

 This is probably due to your highly developed sensorial abilities and other things that you will understand later. I’m here to protect you, but when they find out from above that we’ve made contact, I might be in trouble, because it wasn’t supposed to happen now. And suddenly he disappeared.

 A few days later he came back and he told me that he had been approved by the Galactic Confederation Council to stay in touch with me, because in the near future I was going to experience things and have a lot of questions about myself and I was going to be part of something very special.

[MS] Explain how Victor said he was with the Galactic Confederation and identified you as one of their starseeds.

[JC] He said he was a part of the Galactic Confederation, himself and his planet. And I was part of their people as a Starseed on a special mission to Earth, and I had accepted this mission before I was incarnated into Jean-Charles’ body.

[MS] Do you think the incident with Victor led to the Galactic Confederation informing French officials that you were one of their starseeds, as part of some agreement?

 [JC] Not at this moment. But later yes, during my time in hospital.

 [MS] In 1982, can you describe what happened during summer camp when you suffered heat stroke and was taken to a place where you heard someone speaking German and medical procedures being done on you.

[JC] In nineteen eighty-two, during a summer camp, I had a terrible sunstroke, I was thirteen years old, it was one year after I met Victor, strangely enough. I arrived at the hospital very dehydrated and they put an intravenous solution in my arm, and as I was complaining a lot of headaches, they decided to make me pass a scanner of the brain, strangely, the scanner didn’t work correctly when I was inside.

 The first X-ray showed a spot on my brain, at first the radiologist and the doctor suspected a dust on the scan, they had to redo the X-ray twice, but the second time the X-ray revealed a mysterious object looking like a small metal capsule. While the doctors were talking to each other, I often lost consciousness, suddenly when I opened my eyes I was in my room, the doctor was looking at my X-rays and next to him there was a military man, but I couldn’t understand what he was saying because he was speaking a different language, it was German. And I was fainting a lot of times, and suddenly I felt a kind of mask put on my nose and mouth, there was a kind of greenish gas and I fainted again.

 Suddenly I felt a hand on my shoulder, I opened my eyes and I saw a military man with white hair and blue eyes who said to me: hurry up, we have to go, we are going to be late, we are going to miss the jump, I didn’t understand what he was talking about, I was in a hospital gown, I got out of my bed and I followed him, we took a large corridor, I think I am going to be transferred to another section because they discovered something on my x-ray. We arrive at an elevator, there are two military dressed in black with an emblem on the chest representing with a red triangle. I start to wonder, the fear rises.

 That makes a little moment that we go down and I find that abnormal because a hospital is not so deep. I start to panic and suddenly the lights in the elevator start to pulse and dim. The old soldier said to me: “Don’t worry, everything is fine, you have nothing to fear. We arrive and the doors open but they are not the same doors that we entered through, they are other doors that appeared like that. We get out of the elevator and the soldier says to me: “This is where I leave you, it stops for me here continues alone. I am in a big hangar with a lot of other children in line. Strangely enough I don’t feel any fear, I hear a voice inside of me saying: “Hold on, everything is fine”. I continue and I arrive in front of a table.

[MS] Can you explain how you were given an all-black jumpsuit with a winged horse logo, and then began a training program for the French Secret Space Program.

[JC] When I found myself in this huge hangar, I approached a table, a woman gave me a black suit with a logo representing a silver winged horse. The woman told me to go to a tunnel of light with the other children, when I arrived in the light I felt thousands of needles piercing me and suddenly I found myself in another place like a very futuristic military base.

 [MS] You say that you were tested for several weeks in the training program for your special abilities and then mind-wiped and returned back in time. Please explain what happened.

[JC] When I arrived at the base, we were separated by age and gender, and I was tested for speed and logic for several weeks. Then the tests started to get more intense, Clairvoyance, Out of Body, and Telekinesis. They tested our fear with different nightmarish creatures in special rooms to see our tolerance and control, many failed, but not me. A doctor spoke to a military man and said, “This is the boy I told you about.” I recognized the radiologist, and I remember being particularly watched by people in white suits taking notes.

 I was selected. I went into a dark room, and that’s when I saw it come out of the darkness, it was huge, there was a giant mantis, it came up to me and put its big paw on my shoulder and it was looking at me with its big eyes and I heard in my head: relax, it’s not painful, you’ve been chosen. And I collapsed. When I opened my eyes, I was in my bed in the hospital and I had forgotten everything. My head was spinning and I was nauseous, like I had been on a roller coaster. I felt very tired and fell asleep. I was woken up by the sound of a horn, I was on a bus leaving the hospital to take me back to summer camp.

[MS] After returning to the summer camp and telling the boys some of what your remembered you were ridiculed and felt depressed. You left and then had a contact experience with Victor on a Galactic Confederation craft. Please explain what happened.

[JC] Yes I was very sad, I waited until everyone was asleep and I went out the window of the chalet, I went to a field at the base of a mountain and I sat on the ground with my eyes raised to the sky and I said, I don’t want to be here anymore, come and get me. Suddenly a star moved in the sky and it came closer, it was a golden disk, a light and a heat surrounded me and I felt that I was leaving the ground. I found myself on a ship.

 Many creatures were looking at me and seemed to be waiting for my arrival, they welcomed me. Victor was there and said to me, “Welcome aboard the Solaris.

[MS] Do you recall anything about size, shape and number of the Confederation craft?

[JC] The size of the spaceships could be very different, there were small reconnaissance spaceships of various shapes, very long or spherical, large spaceships with more crew resembling aircraft carriers and huge spaceships looking like floating cities with a complete ecosystem of vegetation, waterfalls, various animals, I was in a fleet in which several spaceships were operating.

[MS] On the Galactic Confederation craft you and several young extraterrestrials were given special psychic training classes by a human lady called Maria. Please explain what happened.

[JC] Yes, when I arrived on the ship, Victor and other creatures were waiting for me. I took a large and very bright corridor and at the end of this corridor arrived a splendid blond woman with beautiful blue eyes, she introduced herself to me by name, Maria.

 She asked me to follow her, and we entered a very futuristic classroom, the desks were floating and translucent. In this classroom there were other children, but they were young aliens, except for one human child. Maria asked me to go and sit next to him because there was only one seat left. This little boy’s name was David.

 [MS] You describe meeting another young human boy, slightly younger than you called David Rousseau on the Galactic Confederation craft. Please explain the special connection you developed, and why David was confident he would remember you later.

[JC] With David the connection was made very quickly probably because we were the only two human children in that class, but we felt that we knew each other before our incarnation on earth, there was a very strong connection that left no doubts about its origin, we knew each other before, it was a certitude but we couldn’t explain it. We were inseparable, we took care of each other, I was older than him by three years.

[MS] During the next nine years, do you recall any other training events where you were taken and then returned back in time to the point of departure?

[JC] During the training with the other children in the class, I was on the SOLARIS Ship with Maria who was also teaching us, we had classes on developing our psychic abilities, fights and evaluations every day with different teachers, who were not all human. I had different instruction than the other children because Maria told me that I was very special and unique. She told me that I was a Super Starseed and that I needed different training from the other kids, she introduced me to a Mantis being who was very impressive in appearance, but very kind to me, she was telepathic and Telekinetic and helped me with my training. We had classes like in a school with different subjects and we had breaks to go for a walk with the other beings in the huge ship, we visited other worlds and stayed on different planets, we met a lot of races in order to prepare us for our future missions, all this was part of our training.

We had our own rest rooms, individual cabins with MED BED regenerating beds, and our food was like baby food, with all the necessary nutriments in it. At the end of my training Maria came up to me and said: we will see each other again sooner than you think.

[MS] In 1991, at age 21/22, while completing military service as a parachute commando you saw a black flying triangle fly over a former American Air base, explain how your Captain reacted when you reported the incident to him.

[JC] I remember one night with the guys from my section, we saw a huge black triangular UFO, as big as a soccer field flying over the base without any noise, and the next day we told our leader what we had seen in the sky and it was not an airplane because it was Easter vacation and there were no flight operations, we asked our leader what it was. He told us that it was nothing at all and that if we continued to ask questions, we would be sent to jail.

 [MS] After being injured during training, you are taken to a military hospital and told about patients strapped to gurneys being taken down to the basement and being handed over to a tall Reptilian beings, please explain.

During my military service I had a big accident and I had to leave the base to a military hospital in Paris to be treated, the nerves and muscles of my arm had torn during an exercise, I stayed 3 months in this hospital. there were different sections, including a section of psychiatry, it was forbidden to talk to other patients, but I did the contrary, I wanted to know what they said.

 At nightfall, they saw doctors with a military come to pick up people in their rooms on a medical bed they were tied and they went down by an elevator where the morgue was, but with a special key the elevator went down lower. They discreetly followed the doctor and the soldier and arrived at the basement and saw the elevator doors open with a reptilian being holding the doors.

[MS] On a following day you go to the basement to check for yourself what is happening to the patients and you see a very tall Gray being in the elevator, please explain.

[JC] A few days later I saw these doctors coming to pick up other people, I followed them, but when I got to the elevator, I was stopped by a guard who asked me what I was doing on that level. I just said I was on the wrong floor, he didn’t believe me, he was threatening, I looked him straight in the eyes and curiously he left. The next day I went down again, there was still a person strapped to a stretcher, when the elevator doors opened, it wasn’t a reptilian, it was a tall gray with a suit.

 [MS] After seeing the Gray ET you go back to your hospital room, and soon begin your official 20 and back service for the French SSP. Can you recall any details of how your service began, e.g., signing documents, registering DNA, etc.

[JC] The day after the incident with the tall gray, I was in the hallway of the hospital, I asked the doctor where the other guys are, he told me it was none of my business and that they had left, as I left in the hallway the doctor told me not to forget my treatment for my shoulder. I went to my treatment, it was an experimental equipment called Excalibur with infrared to reconstitute and repair the damaged muscles, I was lying on a table, but the machine had a malfunction and I was burned at the 2nd degree,  the pain was so bad that they had to give me morphine, one night when I was injected with morphine, I started to lose consciousness, and just before, I saw the door of my room open and a doctor came in with a military man and I went down to the basement.

When I got downstairs my eyes were open and I saw other people on stretchers. When I got there I felt a sting in the back of my neck, he had probably injected me with adrenaline because I sat up suddenly and I had no more pain in my shoulder.

A soldier asked me to follow him to a table and asked me to put my hand in a box with a light, I inserted my hand and felt a tingling sensation, He told me that it was to compare my DNA signature with the one I had when I was young and that’s when I remembered when I went down to the basement of the hospital for my sunstroke at thirteen years old that I had put my hand in an identical box before taking the suit with the winged horse emblem and entering the tunnel of light with the other children.

After having put my hand in the light box for my DNA identification, I put on a black suit and the soldier told me to go towards a kind of strange corridor where a very powerful bluish light was pulsating, I entered the light and I felt a multitude of needles going through my whole body. Suddenly, Maria was standing in front of me with a large smile and she said to me: “Hello again, you see, it was not so long. I said to her: Excuse me, but who are you?

Oh yes, excuse me, follow me. We arrive in a room there are several tubes, I enter inside and I feel a big heat and a strong light and when I go out of the tube all my memory came back to me completely. She gives me another suit with a logo on the chest and the shoulder representing a circle with three black spheres and a triangle not closed. 

Then she asks me to follow her to a large room, like an amphitheater there are many adults and some are not human, David is there and waves to me very happy to see me again, I go to sit next to him, and Maria begins her speech, behind her, there is a huge emblem representing a planet crossed by 2 rings with stars around it a kind of united nations of planets.

[MS] You say you served on the spacecraft carrier called the Solaris. Please explain the Solaris in terms of size, shape, spacecraft it carried, and how many personnel was on it.

[JC] The Solaris was a large, long-shaped ship resembling an aircraft carrier mixed with a rocket. Carrying several thousand people, it had several departments, Botanical, Tactical, Inner Lakes, and different ecosystems. With several alien races from different worlds, but each had its own territory.

[MS]  You say that Solaris was a joint French US space craft. Can you remember anything about its command hierarchy and crew in terms of different nationalities?

[JC] The SOLARIS was part of the Franco-American fleet of the SOLAR WARDEN, I saw mixed race people, Asians type, tall blond people, hybrids, it was very diverse. The command was multiple, each one had a responsibility which allowed each one to be autonomous if something happened to the ship, we all had piloting skills and we were multitasking, but there was a non-human leader that’s all I know.

[MS] Can you remember anything about life on the Solaris? What was your rank and responsibilities?

[JC] I was a Captain and I finished Commander, I was in charge of a squad for rescue missions outside our planet and also in diplomatic missions on other worlds. I had about fifteen people under my command (Humans, Hybrids, and Aliens)

[MS] What do you remember of your service on the Excelsior?

[JC] I have some memories of my service on the Excelsior

[MS] Please explain the size, shape, crew of the Excelsior. What was your rank and responsibilities?

[JC] The Excelsior ship was colossal, it was a mother ship, it looked like a floating city under a glass dome, it wasn’t an attack ship but a ship where you could live. I went there several times, but my memories are more accurate on the SOLARIS, I would have to do hypnosis to have more details.

[MS] Do you recall any explicit interaction between the French SSP and ships of the Galactic Confederation?

[JC] There was an interaction between them, The Extraterrestrials/Humans relationship was good, but they were suspicious, because there were several secret space programs and stories told of misunderstandings about agreements broken by the reptilians. The main relationship was working together against this hostile race. There were various secret space programs, including the black fleet, but we were part of the protection of our solar system and there was an alliance between the alien and human program. There were also exchanges of soldiers.

[MS] You remember one mission where you were sent to Mars to lead an attack against Draco Reptilians, what can you remember of the mission, and your injury there.

[JC] I remember a secret rescue mission on Mars that went wrong for me, in which I was severely damaged in the abdomen on the side by the tail of a Draco reptilian, I was evacuated in an emergency aboard the Solaris, I almost died, but I was saved thanks to the intervention of David and his unit, I was regenerated in a medical bed. I completed other rescue missions on Ceres, Mars, Alpha Draconis and Delta Draconis as well as the moon to rescue human and alien women and children from slavery held in captivity by the reptilians. These very dangerous reptilians had a particular appearance, they were black and they were named the BLACK DRACO

[MS] Who is David Rousseau and explain his role in the covert mission to Mars when you were injured.

[JC] David Rousseau is a French-Irish-American author, and intuitive artist (illustrator specializing in galactic portraits) David is a Walk-In, Soul Experiencer, Messenger, Empath, Ambassador of Universal Peace, he has been communicating with the beyond and the higher dimensions since his early childhood. At the age of six one evening in the summer of 1981, while playing outside. He saw a bluish-white light descend from the sky, come to a position just above him, and remain there, motionless.

This moment seemed to last forever. When the object was gone, he found himself in front of a being, who was obviously not terrestrial: humanoid in shape, bluish skin with slight silver reflections, large green eyes and long dark hair, his name was Ezayhel, just as Victor was his [my] protector and brother of the stars.

David has written 2 books (Beyond our World) in French for the moment, in which he explains his life path with his extraterrestrial encounters and his experience with the Space Force in France like me, his sightings of black triangular UFOs close to his military base, his visits to the Moon, as well as the planet Mars and his involvement from a very young age in the secret French space programs including special missions where he saw and recognized me and vice versa. We were together on the Solaris ship and we remember the same things in detail. On the SOLARIS, David Rousseau, was a sort of intermediary of connection with the other races, he was also a special operations agent and he often was in many rescue missions, we participated in various missions together, but he was not a soldier. He was often with me on the Solaris and we did all our training together for several years.

[MS] Many years later, you read a book by David Rousseau where he describes his life in the French SSP and the Mars incident, please explain what happened when you read the relevant chapter.

[JC] I discovered David Rousseau a year ago, by a friend the Director of MUFON France Janny Charrueau who I thank very much once again. I am myself the ex Assistant Director of MUFON Quebec and now Director of Investigations for Quebec.  The universe had been conspiring for us to find each other. When I first saw David’s face in an interview, I had intense déjà vu, but when I read David’s book, my emotion rose instantly, everything he described was similar to my life. I decided to send him my film South Shore Origin about my life and his reaction was the same, emotion and tears, the connection was there and nothing could break it. We decided to see each other by Skype and there, again a shock we were unable to speak the tears flowed I had found my friend, my brother. And that very moment I started to have conscious memories that came to the surface.  

I decided to find out more and without telling David I did a regression hypnosis, my wife is specialized in Hypnosis Dolores Cannon method. For more than 2 hours I described everything I just told you in detail, my training on board the SOLARIS, Maria the blonde woman with blue eyes, the class, the alien children, the Mars mission that went wrong. And at the end of my service, I said to David in the hallway of the ship we will meet again my brother, I know it, and we cried together. Maria was next to me, and she said: we’ll see you soon!  My wife Melanie and I wrote the details of my hypnosis.

 Two months later, David and I talked again because we were very busy with our projects. He knew nothing about my hypnosis. And there it was the shock all over again. David had done a regression hypnosis with his hypnotherapist cousin. David saw exactly the same things, the class, the children, our training, the mission to Mars, my injury, the SOLARIS, Maria. And at the end of his service, he saw himself saying to me: “We’ll meet again my brother, crying. And it’s not over, he told me on skype, I wrote everything in my second book that will be released in November 2021, everything is written in detail. I was in tears again.

 And he adds, you know, several years ago I was discouraged, not being able to talk to Michael Salla, but Ezayhel told me this: A FRENCHMAN YOU KNEW IN THESE PROGRAMS WILL BE IN YOUR LIFE NEXT” I was upset, and I still am. I can’t wait for his second book to be translated into English so that the world can discover our unique story.

[MS] When you finally spoke with David Rousseau you realize that you both served on the Solaris, were starseeds with the Galactic Confederation, and had a deep soul connection where you would remember each other despite mind wiping technology used upon your return. Please explain these connections with David.

[JC] Our connection goes far beyond human understanding, probably due to many incarnations before coming to earth, as we feel we knew each other long before. But having been raised and trained together in a ship, having done missions and having spent 20 years together, it is obvious that this forges an indestructible connection and even all their memory erasing devices have not been able to erase this relationship that links us forever.

 [MS] What other missions can you remember about your covert service on the Solaris?

[JC] I served on different bases, including the moon base name: ARTEMIS LUNAR, the base EPSILON CENTAURI and we were in operation in the constellations Andromeda, Cassiopeia, Orion, Nova.

 [MS] Did you serve on other spacecraft that were part of the French SSP?

[JC] I served on the Solar Warden fleet, in the SOLARIS ship, and on the EXCELSIOR, but I have very few memories at the moment.

[MS] Explain the agreement between the Galactic Confederation and the French US SSP in fighting against the Draco Reptilians.

[JC] The agreement was to keep the Galactic Confederation informed of the actions of the reptilians on our planet, so there would be no violation of agreements. Unfortunately, the reptilians did not respect any of the agreements, and conflicts broke out very often, and also in other solar systems, in which we had to operate, there were genetically modified super soldiers to face the Draco, who were sometimes huge.

[MS] Explain what happened at the end of your 20 and back program.

[JC] End of the service after 20 years, back in time in 1990, molecular regression (to return physically to 21 years old) and erasing of my memory in a kind of tube sending powerful waves in my brain to make me forget everything. I woke up in my bed in the military hospital, but just before they took me back to my room, I remember hearing someone say: erased everything correctly this time.

 [MS]  Why are you coming forward now to reveal your involvement in the French SSP?

[JC] For 40 years I kept my story deep inside me, I didn’t dare to talk about it for fear of people’s judgment and nasty attitude. Today, the many Disclosures and Revelations about the Secret Space Programs encourage me to come out of the shadows because it’ time to share my story with you.

[MS] Where can people learn more about your film projects and works?

 [JC] You can see my films on Vimeo on demand

You will find South Shore Origin Docu-Film based on real events mixed, a reference to the TV series x-files I made a mix of documentary and fiction films to bring my revelations across discreetly. South Shore Origin part 2 should be released in 2022 with you Michael who gave me the great honor to play in it.

 And the last one the most important Revelations Starseed Exclusive Worldwide Release Today

 In which I make revelations about my life, everything is all true. This documentary follows the 15 video capsules about my life and goes much deeper in my disclosures. Very important you have to watch these free 15 videos before watching Revelations Starseed. You can find them on YouTube by typing in Connection Alien or on  vimeo.

 Thank you for taking the time to listen to my story.

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