On July 16, leading UFO historian, Richard Dolan, released an article setting out his views about how to assess individuals who have claimed to have direct knowledge and experience concerning secret space programs. He explains his sympathy for the view that such programs exist, and that people have been through these programs where they have or want to come forward with what they know.

However, he describes his general skeptism about individuals who not only claim to be whistleblowers with detailed knowledge about secret space programs, but who also achieve a certain degree of public acceptance, while providing no evidence in support of their claims:

But when it comes to significant claims being made–really big claims that are not only radical on their own merits but which transform the field (and bring fame and money to those making them), then we clearly need a higher standard than “he seems like a good guy with a detailed story so I believe him.”

Richard views such individuals as wittingly or unwittingly muddying the waters, making it increasingly difficult for independent researchers seeking to ascertain the truth about these programs.

He describes three whistleblowers in particular who have come forward and gained a level of public attention with their incredible claims:

Some of the most prominent of these people include Andrew Basiago, Randy Kramer, and Corey Goode. These three individuals have each claimed to have gone to Mars for extended periods of time. That’s explosive enough, of course, but they have also stated that they have engaged in time travel.

Richard points out that the lack of evidence means that we need to take the whistleblowers word for it, which can be a dangerous thing for researchers:

Again, I must emphasize that none of these whistleblowers has made a claim that an independent investigator can confirm. Everything is based on trust. Believing such stories without genuine evidence takes us down a dangerous road within an already treacherous field that is constantly in the crosshairs of a skeptical establishment.

He is here attempting to steer what he perceives to be the middle path between a highly critical group of skeptics and debunkers claiming such whistleblowers are, at best, delusional or at worst pathological liars, and supporters accepting whatever the whistleblowers have to say on trust alone.

Richard refers to a series of emails he received encouraging him to come out against Goode in particular, who has recently been subjected to sustained criticism from Bill Ryan and Daniel Liszt (aka Dark Journalist) in a series of interviews. Ryan and Liszt have been a focal point for an internet campaign to discredit Goode as a pathological liar.

I have responded to their alleged impartial investigation of Goode elsewhere in terms of how they ignore documents and expert testimonies that validate Goode’s claims about his two-decades long background in the Information Technology industry. By ignoring Goode’s verifiable background, both investigators have deliberately attempted to cast doubt on his credibility by asserting that he came forward purely for monetary gain, as opposed to genuine whistleblower’ desire to reveal the truth about official wrong doing even at the cost of a once lucrative career.

I have reached out to Richard to share my assessment of Ryan and Listz’s hoax investigation, and included a link to the documents and experts I contacted and who corroborated Goode’s background. Richard has not replied, which I find surprising. Surely the willful obfuscation of a whistleblower’s background deserves public scrutiny and rebuke when investigators have acted inappropriately!

Yet apparently, Mr Dolan doesn’t agree. He doesn’t bring up any problems with Ryan and Liszt’s investigation of Goode in his post, but he does mention a problem with me. Apparently I have a trust issue:

I’ve known Michael for over a decade, and have had several long conversations with him. What I say here I have said to him personally: I believe he has done genuine and good research on a number of matters, but has a tendency to be too trusting. From my perspective, it’s always been like that. There are people who love his work, and there are haters. I am neither, but am always looking for information I can use. Sometimes I get good information and insights from his work and so I find him worthwhile to listen to, even if I don’t approve of his quickness to jump to conclusions.

I find Richard’s assessment that I have a “tendency to be too trusting” unsurprising since it reflects my contrary view of his tendency to be too dismissive of those sincerely and honestly stating their experiences. They may well be telling the truth about extraordinary experiences, but are dismissed simply because they don’t provide sufficient evidence to satisfy whatever standard he and other UFO researchers arbitrarily set.

To me, it has always been far more dangerous to exclude witness testimony simply because they don’t provide sufficient evidence to some arbitrarily defined standard, as opposed to seriously investigating it based on their sincerity, honesty and often sacrifice in coming forward.

It’s wrong to assume that an investigator “trusts” a whistleblower simply because he or she consider them sincere and thus worthy of serious investigation. I have found the above three whistleblowers sincere and worthy of serious investigation. That doesn’t translate into trust, however, which is a different thing altogether.

Richard Dolan and I agree that the entire subject matter of UFOs, extraterrestrial life and secret space programs is very highly classified, and that security measures have been implemented to perpetuate this. Indeed, the Edward Snowden document release confirms that the intelligence community in the five Echelon countries (USA, Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand) does perform covert online activities to sow confusion in the UFO field.

Richard believes that it stands to reason that the Deep State (aka Cabal/Illuminati) would attempt to muddy the waters by arranging for hoaxers, mind-control victims, assets, etc., to come in with false testimonies and disinformation. On this we agree, but it also stands to reason that there would be a lot of effort put in as well to discredit genuine whistleblowers, experiencers, etc., by the Deep State and its assets.

Why only focus on one aspect of what the Deep State is doing? After all, in the case of Corey Goode, I’ve found clear evidence of an underhanded attempt to smear him, where two investigators, Ryan and Liszt, have ignored documents and expert witnesses corroborating his work history, and claims in this regard. Couldn’t Ryan and Liszt be Deep State operatives who have been activated to discredit Goode?

Richard then takes on the case of William Tompkins, who unlike Goode, Basiago and Cramer, has numerous documents and experts supporting key aspects of his testimony. He says:

Bill Tompkins is an interesting case. He is in his 90s, and recently wrote a book entitled Selected by Extraterrestrials, which details his life and claims about having participated in the Navy’s top secret program to create a secret space fleet. Unlike the other alleged whistleblowers, Tompkins has a career that has been confirmed: he did work at Douglas Aircraft for many years and has very impressive credentials. That counts for something. I should add that Dr. Salla and Dr. Bob Wood have both done a great deal of work to investigate and confirm Tompkins’ background and found what they believe is at least some corroboration to Tompkins’ claims.

Indeed, Dr. Wood and I have found many documents and independent third parties supporting Tompkins’ testimony. I spoke with three retired Navy officers, who all vouched for Tompkins bona fides and aspects of his testimony which I detailed in my book The US Navy’s Secret Space Program and in earlier articles.

Rear Admiral Larry Marsh confirmed the importance of William Tompkins work with the US Navy League. Tompkins was President of the Medford Navy League Council and led Special Projects there.

Despite this abundant pool of evidence which has been publicly available for some time now, Richard Dolan remains on the fence about Tompkins:

Even so, I have my doubts about Mr. Tompkins. It’s not widely known, but I had the opportunity to be his publisher. After I learned about his credentials from Bob Wood, but before I read his manuscript, I had agreed in principle that I would publish it. But after reading the manuscript, I had to decline. I found the tone of this book to be perfectly designed to bring disrepute to the field and I wanted nothing to do with it. I found a number of obvious errors in the book and what seemed to me examples of self-aggrandisement that didn’t sit well with me. I wished Tompkins well and that was that. I haven’t made my final judgment on Tompkins, and perhaps I never will. If evidence can be brought forth to substantiate his key claims, then I will look at it.

Tompkins’ tone, draft book errors and self-aggrandisement were red flags to Dolan so he backed off. That’s fair enough for any publisher assessing a potential book, however, these are not things that would exclude Tompkins from being truthful in his recollections of events and people as he best recalls.

After all, Tompkins is 94 and was part of historic process which has culminated in the present state of affairs concerning secret space programs. I personally gave Richard a copy of my US Navy Secret Space Program book in which I lay out the evidence as I have so far been able to find.

Richard finishes his article by saying:

I remain willing to engage in a civil discourse with Corey, Andrew, Bill Tompkins, Michael Salla, or anyone else who has made claims. In a sense, I understand their position, since I know what it’s like to speak to staunch skeptics about the UFO subject. However, in any sort of engagement I have with such people, they must realize that the onus is on them to provide their evidence. That is what I do regarding UFOs. A story that is inherently unverifiable just doesn’t count, nor does it help if some other random person seemingly supports the story. Words alone aren’t good enough. Nothing can be taken at face value.

I am happy to engage in a civil discourse with Richard about the issues he has raised in his article and what I have pointed out in this reply. I consider him as someone with the kind of intellectual rigor and forthrightness that makes a public debate on these issues something valuable for all readers.

In finishing, I do have to express my disagreement with his conclusion that a story that is “inherently unverifiable just doesn’t count”. Just think of the implications of eyewitness testimony to crimes being dismissed because there is no evidence they provide, or means of investigating the veracity of their claims, which may appear incredible given the present level of technological awareness in open source society.

Wouldn’t that play into the hands of criminal syndicates with the power to remove and manipulate incriminating evidence? My conclusion is that this is precisely what is happening when it comes to learning the truth about secret space programs, the groups running these operate very similarly to criminal syndicates under the cover of national security.

All testimonies count. We can learn a lot by both exposing those out to hoax us or who act out of delusion, as well genuinely investigating those telling us the truth as best as they recollect. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater is precisely what the Deep State wants us to do when it comes to assessing incredible whistleblower claims about secret space programs.

© Michael E. Salla, Ph.D. Copyright Notice

Further Reading

The article below was originally published on 12/22/2004, and examines claims of a joint US/USSR secret space program that abducts individuals for a joint Mars colony. Given Robert David Steele’s June 30, 2017 interview about children being kidnapped and arriving on Mars as adults for use as slave labor, I thought it worth re-posting since the article examines the first public reference to a secret Mars colony using slave labor – Alternative 3.

The article discusses how extraterrestrials were a factor in government preparation for the anticipated cataclysmic global events. Agreements with select extraterrestrial groups were allegedly reached that involved an illicit trade in human slaves and other Earth resources in exchange for advanced technologies. Kidnapped humans were apparently not just marked for transportation to colonies on Mars, but also for some extraterrestrials to use as they saw fit.

Finally, the article discusses why the Alternative 3 scenario did not turn out as predicted, and how a rapid elevation in global consciousness prevented disaster, and provided an opportunity for a much more positive future where disclosure of secret space programs and extraterrestrial agreements could occur.

Links have been updated and some videos/graphics inserted. Text remains unchanged from the original.

Michael Salla, Ph.D. [7/13/17]

Alternative 3 and ‘Global Consciousness’: Identifying a New Strategic Factor for Responding to Extraterrestrials

Alternative 3 began as a science documentary broadcast on British television by Anglia Television in June, 1977 and beamed to several other countries in Europe and to Australia, New Zealand but not to the US. Alternative 3 was the last in series of documentaries called the Science Report. Alternative 3 began with the investigators researching an alleged ‘brain drain’ in Britain (talented individuals emigrating to other countries), and then discovering that these people had disappeared. Further research focused on their allegedly being taken off to work in undisclosed locations. More investigation revealed that the Earth’s environment is undergoing great change due to greenhouse gases and that a top secret effort is underway to move small numbers of the human population to safe locations.

According to an alleged British scientist, the authorities have long known that the global environment was deteriorating so seriously, that three radical solutions or ‘alternatives’ were contemplated. Alternative 1 was to put a stop to environmental degradation and use extreme measures such as atomic blasts in the Earth’s atmosphere to allow greenhouse gases to escape. Alternative 2 was to move enough of the population to safe underground sites to ensure continuity of government and national survival. Alternative 3 was the most radical, establish bases on the Moon and Mars and move as much of the population there to ensure the survival of humanity.

The documentary interviewed an alleged US astronaut ‘Bob Grodin’ who claimed that when he went to the moon that others were already there in words that echoed Neil Armstrong’s alleged comments when on the moon: “But we have found some visitors… They’ve been here for quite a while judging by the installations…. I’m telling you there are other spacecraft out there. They’re lined up in ranks on the far side of the crater’s edge…” [Source]

The documentary finished with a film clip that was allegedly smuggled out by a murdered British scientist that showed a US landing on Mars and an astronaut announcing: “Boy, when they take the wraps off this, it’ll be the biggest day in history. 22 May 1962, we’re on Mars and we have life.”

Alternative 3 caused an immediate uproar since the Science Report was a well respected series of science documentaries that had a track record for informative stories that were credible and very well researched. In 1977 there was no such thing as the internet and cable TV so shows like the Science Report were very influential and reached a wide audience. Anglia television began telling worried telephone callers that the show was fiction and that the investigators and people interviewed in the show were actors. You can read a good summary of how Alternative 3 was hoaxed here  [to view Alternative 3 online, go here].

After all the furor caused by what was now declared to be a fictitious television documentary, one of the individuals involved in the production of Alternative 3 wrote a book a year later that instantly became a popular conspiracy theory. The book, Alternative 3, developed further themes mentioned in the documentary with material that arguably could not be included in the show. Watkins claimed that civilians were being abducted and taken to colonies on Mars and the Moon.

The author Leslie Watkins, emigrated to Australia, and then explained that the book was ‘fiction based on fact,’ and claimed that the original show was also a fictionalized version of fact. For many, the Alternative 3 documentary was just an elaborate hoax, involving actors, and that Watkin’s book was just an example of the people involved trying to cash in on the documentary’s popularity.

Even though Alternative 3 involved actors staging a documentary that was a hoax featuring fictitious British scientists and a fictitious American Astronaut, there are a number of things that makes one suspicious about this whole saga. First, the Science Report was a well respected British documentary produced by Anglia Television. Why would Anglia TV and the produces of the Science Report risk their reputations to produce a hoax that would spark protests by its loyal viewers?

Second, why would the Science Report use actors to impersonate a respected British scientist and a US astronaut whose identities could easily be found to be fictitious? Finally, what does all this have to do with us in 2004 and the undisclosed extraterrestrial presence?

Let me now offer my reflections on what really happened with Alternative 3, and its exopolitical significance. I believe that Alternative 3 was intended to disclose to the general public a truth that was too disturbing to be announced through conventional political channels. The ‘truth’ was undisclosed scientific data that indicated that the Earth’s environment was rapidly collapsing as a result of various causes and that events had reached a point where devastating Earth changes were around the corner.

The conclusion reached by government authorities was that there were going to be devastating environmental changes that would threaten the survival of humanity on the surface of the Earth. Hence intensive efforts were underway to prepare for such a contingency through the three alternatives discussed in the Alternative 3 documentary and book.

The alleged bases on the Moon and Mars were a possible place for relocating significant numbers of civilians to escape whatever environmental catastrophe were projected. As to how the US and other countries had been able to establish bases on the Moon and Mars without public knowledge, the answer lies in the technological assistance provided by extraterrestrials that were providing such technology in exchange for various earth resources.

In Phillip Corso’s book, The Day After Roswell, he described an ambitious blueprint for a base on the moon that was made possible by extraterrestrial technologies recovered from the Roswell crash. While the book presents the Moon base as an unrealized project, the implication that Corso is making with the inclusion of these chapters is that the Moon base was indeed constructed but that he couldn’t officially disclose this in the book.

The recent book series, Millennial Hospitality (2002), released by a former USAF weather observer, Charles Hall, demonstrates the extent that the government exchanged technology with a group of extraterrestrials called the ‘tall whites’. The tall whites provided the technological information for constructing nuclear powered scout craft that could travel in nearby regions of the solar system, and even provided tours of the Moon and possibly Mars to USAF generals on their more advanced anti-gravity propelled scout craft.

Thus the Hall book series lends support to alleged whistleblowers such as Michael Relfe who claim to have traveled to Mars and served in a secret human colony there. Hall also supports the testimony of a former member of US Naval Intelligence, William Cooper, who claimed to have seen documents describing secret bases on the Moon and Mars. It can be assumed that extraterrestrials such as the Tall Whites provided intelligence on the impending environmental catastrophe, and probably struck deals with the shadow government where both would benefit in the event of such a global calamity.

As to what were the undisclosed causes driving a dramatic environmental collapse, one can take their pick: runaway greenhouse and ozone depleting gasses, an impending pole shift, the approach of a large comet/planet such as Planet X, the sun experiencing immense mega solar activity, an impending nuclear war, and/or the use of exotic technologies provided by visiting extraterrestrial races. There is much evidence to support each of these factors as possible causes of devastating environmental change on Earth that were thought to be inevitable so I leave it to the reader to research each of these and their plausibility.

My conclusion is that the shadow government that controlled extraterrestrial affairs were convinced that a planet wide environmental collapse was imminent, so for the sake of preparing those who might stand a chance of surviving on Earth’s surface, they covertly arranged for the production and release of Alternative 3. The idea was to put enough factual material in the documentary so that those that were alert enough, could take whatever measures they could to survive what was about to happen.

At the same time, the documentary had to be obviously a hoax using actors playing fictitious personalities so that it could be easily dismissed by those who might panic if indeed there was truth to it. That way the shadow government could get the word out while maintaining plausible deniability over the truth of what was claimed in the show.

I think this best explains why the Science Report went to all the effort to produce Alternative 3, and ride out the predictable public backlash once viewers were told the show was a hoax. To me, this explanation is the most plausible as to why Anglia TV and the Science Report went ahead with the production and airing of Alternative 3.

So if the Science Show was televising Alternative 3 to warn those who were alert enough as to what was really happening, and if the that shadow government was secretly behind the production of Alternative 3 to both test public reaction and prepare those who might stand a chance of surviving a predicted environmental catastrophe, then why haven’t the Earth changes happened? After all it’s been 27 years since Alternative 3 aired so if the shadow government were really behind it to promote some public awareness of what they believed the evidence conclusively suggested lay just ahead, how could their bleak assessments have been so wrong?

I think this is where we reach some interesting conclusions since the shadow government would have had impressive scientific resources and technological data needed to reach their assessment of what lay ahead for the planet. When you combine the bleak assessment that the shadow government reached, with predictions of impending environmental collapse by extraterrestrials who have communicated with contactees/abductees, and predictions of global calamity by a host of psychics throughout the 1980s and 1990s, then it becomes clear that the shadow government, visiting extraterrestrial races and psychics missed something vital in their predictions of an impending environmental catastrophe. What factor or variable did the shadow government, extraterrestrials and psychics miss in making their bleak assessments about the future of humanity on the surface of Earth?

The answer I believe is that all failed to factor in the relevance of ‘global consciousness’ into their predictive models and analyses of the forces behind an environmental collapse. The best source for understanding the concept of ‘global consciousness’ and how it affects the evolution of life on Earth is Tielhard de Chardin and his concept of the ‘noosphere’.

The noosphere was an evolving composite of humanity’s thoughts, feelings and social relationships that evolved steadily upward towards a fuller manifestation of human potential. De Chardin’s thoughts on a ‘global consciousness’ was independently supported by theorists such as Carl Jung who discovered archetypes of the ‘collective unconscious’ of humanity.

Rather than solely an abstraction dreamed up by progressive thinkers, the concept of a global consciousness is physically represented through the communications infrastructure of the internet. The internet probably more than anything else physically symbolizes the noosphere or ‘global consciousness’ that Chardin was arguing to be a critical factor in the evolution of humanity.

Now this takes us to the question of how ‘global consciousness’ may be the missing variable that accounts for the failed shadow government predictive models, information provided by extraterrestrials and psychic visions that all suggested that devastating environmental events were inevitable, and thus made Alternative 3 necessary. It can be asserted that global consciousness somehow sufficiently impacted on the global environment to diminish, retard or even negate the environmental catastrophe predicted by researchers reporting to the shadow government, visiting extraterrestrial races, and psychics.

It has been shown by a research project at Princeton University that major global events impact on the ‘collective consciousness’ or noosphere. Key events such as the deaths of Princes Dianna and Mother Theresa, the 911 attack, major earthquakes and other significant international events have a measurable impact on global consciousness. So if global events register or impact on global consciousness, can it work the other way? In other words, can global consciousness impact on global events in a way that significantly alters these?

The idea that consciousness can alter physical reality is found in various mystical traditions such as the Hermetic principles that were practiced by the ancient Greeks. This idea was popularized for students of quantum physics by Fritjoff Capra who wrote the Tao of Physics in 1974. Essentially, quantum physicists were discovering that the observer of sub-atomic behaviors was a factor in understanding the behavior of these particles. This realization opened the door to the idea that consciousness impacts on the observed behavior of sub-atomic particles. So going from sub-atomic particles to global events, it can be asked whether changes in global consciousness impact on global events?

Answering this question first requires understanding whether there have been recently dramatic changes in global consciousness, and what might be the factors driving such change. The idea that global consciousness can change and evolve is not new since this is something that Tielhard de Chardin proposed, and eventually got him into trouble with Catholic Church authorities. So if there has recently been some dramatic shifts in global consciousness, what might have been driving this?

Many have argued that the Earth and our solar system has entered a new region of the galaxy which makes possible a more evolved form of global consciousness. This has been referred to as the ‘photon belt’ and it has been argued to be a region that impacts on the frequencies of the Earth, the Sun and other planets in our solar system.

Other theorists have argued that the plane of our solar system has come into alignment with the galactic core of the Milky Way thereby impacting on global consciousness. All these may be factors driving changes in global consciousness, but the most instrumental factor has been the communications made possible by the develop of the internet.

The best evidence of a dramatic shift in global consciousness is the development of the internet and the global communications and cyber-communities this has spawned. The growth of yahoo discussion groups, for example, has enabled individuals from around the planet to network with one other, establish connections, share networks and establish new identities that break down the more provincial/national identities that were dominant in the pre-internet days.

More significantly, the internet has made it possible for communities to share information and take action to deal with environmental problems as they arose. The internet has been a dramatic technological development that has made possible rapid changes in global consciousness. This change is unrivalled in human history and perhaps only the establishment of the printing press in the 15th century rivals it.

So if it is accepted that global consciousness has shifted in ways that reflect a more integrated global community made possible by the communications infrastructure of the internet and cyber-communications such as Yahoo discussion groups, can this impact on our global reality? Put otherwise, does a more unified global humanity impact on the physical world around us? This is a difficult question to answer, but it nevertheless points to the idea that changes in global consciousness are an important factor or variable to take into account in analyzing the impact of possible environmental changes on Earth.

The fact that numerous groups around the planet began to take a keen interest in the environment and assisting with problems as they were brought to the public’s attention, demonstrates the power of global consciousness when focused on a particular set of problems such as the global environmental changes. In my view, the failure of shadow government to factor in ‘global consciousness’ into their assessments of a potential environmental collapse, accounts for why they were dramatically mistaken in planning for inevitable destructive environmental changes.

So if global consciousness is the missing variable in determining the likelihood of destructive environmental damage, how can this be effectively factored in future global security threats contemplated by the shadow government? Arguably, the most serious global threat aside from an environmental catastrophe, is that posed by extraterrestrial races that have infiltrated our planet and pose a long term threat to human sovereignty due to their technological superiority and the advantages this gives them in forging trade pacts with the shadow government.

Indeed, the Charles Hall books point to Tall White extraterrestrials, and likely other extraterrestrial races, having imposed agreements on US shadow government authorities that involve the extraction of significant earth resources to off world locations in exchange for technological know how and permission for extraterrestrials to be housed in bases on Earth.

There’s strong evidence in Hall’s revelations that the Tall Whites are conducting an interstellar trade using large quantities of Earth resources possibly including abducted civilians. Significantly, Hall describes the powerlessness felt by the military in dealing with the technological superiority of the tall whites.

These themes are vividly demonstrated in the recent movie, The Forgotten, which dramatizes the phenomenon of civilians being abducted by extraterrestrials who disappear with records and memories of them being deleted, while national security agencies are powerless to stop the extraterrestrials responsible for this.

If global consciousness was the missing factor in preventing inevitable environmental challenges once these problems were brought to the attention of the general public, then it may similarly be a factor that can impact on the relations with unfriendly extraterrestrial races extracting earth resources and possibly humans for off world locations.

While national security agencies may feel powerless to stop such practices due to their perceived technological inferiority, global consciousness may once again play a constructive role in warding off a threat that is still not disclosed to the general public. Using global consciousness against the threat posed by resource hungry extraterrestrial visitors may be the best defense national security agencies have in warding off a threat that still remains undisclosed to the general public.

Global consciousness in the form of an interconnected, empowered and informed global public is yet to be appreciated as a strategic asset by national security agencies responsible for dealing with threats to the long term sovereignty, freedom and well being of global humanity. Once global consciousness is made aware of the threat posed by resource hungry extraterrestrials visiting the Earth, then solutions will be found to ensure that dignity and integrity of humanity in the face of technologically advanced extraterrestrial races.

Global consciousness is an important strategic variable in dealing with global challenges posed by the extraterrestrial presence, and requires a profound reversal of the non-disclosure policy in place for more than five decades by the US and other major national governments.

© Michael E. Salla, PhD
December 22, 2004

The newly released Majestic-12 briefing document (“Assessment of the Situation”) contains much information about the beginning of diplomatic relations between the US government and human looking extraterrestrial visitors that began after the famed 1948 Aztec flying saucer incident. Part one of this series discussed the document’s content explaining how a surviving adult alien from the Aztec landing began the diplomatic process, and left behind three extraterrestrial infants brought to our world to stay as a goodwill gesture.

The information revealed in the leaked briefing document can be compared to what is publicly known about the Aztec landing. If a high degree of consistency is found in the comparison, it will help build confidence that the briefing document is based on factual information, which was part of a 1989 classified briefing prepared by the Defense Intelligence Agency for the Office of the President.

The first to write about the Aztec case was the author Frank Scully, a highly respected journalist, who wrote a book in 1950 based on what he had been told by two sources, an alleged scientist Dr. Gee (a pseudonym used by a local radio and television parts owner later revealed to be Leo A. GeBauer) and Newton Silas (a well-known oil prospector). Scully’s book, Behind the Flying Saucers, quickly became a national best seller with his account of the “first landing” of a flying saucer in 1948.

[Dr Gee] was the man who told us the whole story of the first flying saucer that had landed in the United States… Two telescopes caught this unidentified ship as it came into our atmosphere. They watched its position and estimated where it would land. Within a few hours after it landed, Air Force officers reached the flying field at Durango, Colorado, and took off in their search for the object. When they found it, it was in a very rocky, high plateau territory, east of Aztec, New Mexico. … (Behind the Flying Saucers, pp. 138-39)

Note that Scully was talking about a “controlled landing”, not a flying saucer crash as  reported for the Roswell incident which had received world-wide media coverage after the initial U.S. Army Air Force Press Release on July 8, 1947. 

The Majestic-12 briefing document similarly refers to a “controlled landing” in the vicinity of Aztec that occurred on March 25, 1948:

The controlled landing occurred in a small desert canyon on the private grazing land of a local farmer and rancher… about 12.2 miles northeast of Aztec New Mexico. The ship was determined to be 99.983 feet in diameter. (“Assessment of the Situation“, p. C-1-of-10)

Regarding the diameter of the flying saucer, Scully gave the following information:

The overall dimensions of the ship were found to be a faction short of 100 feet in diameter. To be exact it measured 99.99/100 feet wide. [Behind the Flying Saucers, p. 138-39]

Remarkably, Scully’s precise measurement of the diameter of the flying saucer craft that had landed matches the 1989 briefing document’s report on the size and nature of the landing.

Scully revealed important details about the scientific team sent to investigate the flying saucer:

Dr. Gee and seven of his group of magnetic scientists were called in to examine this strange ship. When they arrived on the ground they decided that the best thing to do was not to touch it or try to get into it. They studied the ship from a distance for a matter of two days, bombing it with Geiger counters, cosmic rays, and other protective devices. [Behind the Flying Saucers,, p. 138-39]

Scully was told that eight scientists were involved in the preliminary analysis of the landed craft. According to the new Majestic-12 document, the recovery team involved four scientific members of the newly created MJ-12 directorate, and an additional six scientists meeting at the Hart’s Canyon landing site near the town of Aztec:

In order to fully follow the course of the Aztec, N.M. recovery and investigation it is important at this point to detail the names and the backgrounds of the members of the IPU/MAJICOPS team before returning to a chronology of the events at Harts Canyon. Only four of these persons were on the MAJICOPs director. These were Dr. Lloyd Berkner, Dr. Detlev Bronk, Dr. Vannevar Bush and Dr. Jerome Hunsaker…. The following were selected by the MJ-12 directorate to accompany the IPU/MAJICOPS recovery team to the Hart Canyon landing sites:

Dr. Carl A. Helland, Director and senior scientist of the Geophysics and Magnetic Sciences Laboratory of the Colorado School of Mines…

Dr. John von Neumann … His work on the Aztec disc eventually led to the binary computer language used today in all modern electronic computers….

Dr. Robert J. Oppenheimer … Acting for his friend, Dr. Bush, who had not yet arrived at Aztec, he selected most of the recovery team members and arranged with the U.S. Navy for storage in their facilities at Los Alamos until permanent sites could be prepared.

Dr. Johann von Roesler, an expert nitrogen chemist … Originally included as a consultant on the possible need to gain forced entry to the disc-craft by use of high explosives, he eventually worked with Dr. Detlev Bronk on investigating the liquid nitrogen cooled cryogenic suspension system used about the disc-craft by it’s [sic] crew members.

Dr. Merle A. Tuve … Top pioneer in radio-save propagation in the upper atmosphere. Later was part of the Bell Laboratories team which developed the principles of laser light physics derived from study of systems found aboard the Aztec disc-craft.

Dr. Horace van Valkenberg, was Director of the School of Metallurgy of the University of Colorado. (“Assessment of the Situation“, pp. C-3&4-of-10)

According to the Majestic-12 document, there were ten scientists in total involved in the Aztec recovery. However, Dr. Bush arrived later than the others at the scene.  Scully was told that there were eight scientists at the site, which is very close to the actual number initially present (nine). If another scientific member of the MJ-12 Directorate had accompanied Bush and also arrived late, this would correspond precisely with the eight working scientists at the outset of the investigation of the landed flying saucer, according to what Scully had been told.

Scully went on to describe how the recovery team was able to gain entry into the craft:

Apparently there was no door to what unquestionably was the cabin. The outside surface showed no marking of any sort except for a broken porthole, which appeared on first examination to be of glass… Finally, we took a large pole and rammed a hole through this defect in the ship. [Behind the Flying Saucers, p. 139]

This description of how the recovery team gained access closely matches what the MJ-12 document says occurred:

It was discovered that the original opening was forced at the lower corner of a sort of large rectangular window or porthole which had been cracked. These portholes were not visible from the outside, but were extended all the way around the compartment in huge curved rectangles and separated by only a thin structural brace between them. The exception was the cracked one by which the team gained entry. [“Assessment of the Situation“, p. C-6-of 10]

The MJ-12 document also refers to the use of “a long thin rod used to probe at what looked like levers or buttons inside” which corresponds to Scully description of a “large pole” used through the porthole.

Next we come to the number of occupants in the Aztec flying saucer incident. Scully was told by Dr. Gee:

[W]e looked into the interior. There we were able to count sixteen bodies, that ranged in height from about 36 to 42 inches…. We examined the bodies very closely and very carefully. They were normal from every standpoint and had no appearance of being what we call this planet ‘midgets. They were perfectly normal in their development. The only trouble was that their skin seemed to be charred a very dark chocolate color. [Behind the Flying Saucers, p. 139]

We can now compare Scully’s account of the 16 dead occupants with what the MJ-12 documents says:

Inside the upper cabin .. the team found the bodies of two (2) small humanoids about four feet in height strapped into seats like those in a jet cockpit… The extraterrestrials were dead. [“Assessment of the Situation“, p. C-6-of 10]

The briefing document reported that the extraterrestrials had died because of an atmospheric leak caused by an impact with a nearby cliff face. The report then described the discovery of 14 cryogenic tubes in the lower level, 12 of which contained human-looking bodies – four of which were later successfully resuscitated:

A closer look at the sealed tubes which looked like the doors of clothes dryers at a laundromat revealed that they were a complex form of refrigeration system. Two were empty and twelve contained the bodies of what looked like human adults and small children as well as infants, all frozen as if preserved for specimens…. Eventually the medical team was able to resuscitate one adult Earth-like humanoid male and three (3) Earth-like humanoid infants, all about six (6) months of age: two male and one female. The rest of the infants and one more short, gray-skinned, large-headed OBE, perished.

Scully had reported 16 bodies were found at Aztec. The briefing document had reported 2 small extraterrestrial bodies (found in the upper cabin) plus 14 cryogenic tubes (found in the lower cabin) – 12 of which were occupied by human looking aliens frozen in suspension.



What Scully had not been told, however, was that four of the extraterrestrials were still alive in their cryogenic chambers. Apparently his source, Dr. Gee, did not know that these four were later successfully revived. The briefing document explains how those personnel at the site, without a need-to-know, were given a cover story that all the extraterrestrials had died:

The story was quickly circulated that, yes, bodies had been found – all deceased, and that these would be removed for later analysis. The bodies of the two small “pilots” were show to some other members of the recovery team who had heard about them, And then sealed in dry ice chambers, as was the corpse of the EBE who had expired in the cargo hold after thawing. A big display of this was carried out in full view of the other team members and other dry ice transportation capsules were secretly loaded with dirt and stone before the entire group was loaded into a refrigerator truck labeled “high explosives” for transport. (“Assessment of the Situation“, p. C-3-of-10)

What this suggests is the recovery team saw 2 short EBEs, and 16 dry ice capsules prepared for the 14 cryogenic tubes (12 of which were occupied). Then they saw the two short EBE bodies from the upper cabin being loaded into two of the dry ice capsules, rather than empty cryogenic tubes. The natural assumption was that 16 short human looking extraterrestrial bodies had been recovered, exactly what Scully was told.

Clearly, what the above suggests is that even in a highly classified retrieval operation such as what had occurred at Aztec, compartmentalization was very much in place. Information about live extraterrestrials being recovered was to be kept secret from many personnel in the classified retrieval operation. All were told that the extraterrestrials in the 16 dry ice capsules were dead. An official disinformation campaign was already underway for the Aztec landing, and this did not stop with retrieval personnel.

Scully’s two sources, Newton and Dr. Gee (GeBauer) appear to have been caught up in the disinformation campaign surrounding the Aztec landing. According to Scully, Dr. Gee was a magnetic specialist on the Aztec recovery team:

In the summer of 1949 he [Silas Newton] met Dr. Gee, a magnetic engineer who had been released in July after seven years of government servitude on all sorts of top drawer projects. He had become a master of magnetic energy…[Behind the Flying Saucers,, p. 72] 

Both Newton and GeBauer had been attracting investors for various oil drilling schemes based on technologies they claim to have developed from their knowledge of the Aztec landing, Eventually both were arrested by the FBI in October 1952 and convicted for fraud after a complaint from one of the oil investors, Herman Flader.

The backgrounds of both Newton and GeBauer were detailed in a highly critical 1956 article in True Magazine by J.P. Cahn titled, “Flying Saucer Swindlers”.

Scully’s account of the Aztec flying saucer landing was now thoroughly discredited, and he was widely ridiculed for being duped by two confidence men with criminal convictions related to the alleged landing. The Aztec case was now accepted as a hoax, even though Scully continued to believe it was genuine up to his death.

The new Majestic briefing document contains a paragraph on what had happened with Newton, GeBauer and Scully, which provides valuable insights into actual events, and how all three were caught up in the official disinformation campaign:

Visiting with the rancher at that time and planning to hunt for game animals on his land, were the owner of a local radio repair shop [Dr. Gee/GeBauer] plus a unemployed oil hunter and inventor [Silas Newton]. These last two parties were later to get together and tell their story to a columnist from Variety Magazine named Frank Scully. This author later published a book in 1950 detailing parts of the Aztec recovery story. This breach of security was …  by the use of a cover story for the IPU/MAJICOPS workers that proved to be ineffective. It was decided to disguise the Aztec efforts as an exploration for oil by a fictional drilling company, a fact that was not in agreement with the knowledge of the unemployed oil hunter who knew that there was no oil in that area. Later both this independent oil hunter and the columnist Scully were discredited by facts leaked to a writer [Cahn] at True Magazine by covert operatives of the MAJESTIC Enforcement Division. This action was unfortunate but very vital in light of the sensational nature of the Aztec discoveries. Fortunately, Scully labeled this fortune hunting oilman as a “scientist” in his book and during the period of the book’s sales, this adventurer was convicted of fraud for trying to peddle a device he claimed would find oil. Mostly by luck, the security breach healed itself and the book was quickly forgotten with only minor help from MJ-12. (“Assessment of the Situation” p. C-2-of-10)

Essentially, the Majestic briefing document reveals that a disinformation campaign had been successfully implemented to discredit Scully and his two principal sources: Newton and GeBauer. Scully’s blunder was that he had incorrectly referred to GeBauer as a magnetic scientist, which made it easy for the disinformation campaign to succeed.

Given the extensive similarities between Scully’s account of the Aztec flying saucer incident and what is found in the new Majestic 12 briefing document, it can be concluded with great confidence that they are describing the same event. This leads to two possible conclusions about the briefing document, and its relationship to the previously discredited Aztec flying saucer landing.

The first is that it is disinformation based on Scully’s account of the Aztec flying saucer incident as the means for a contrived document to once again confuse or disinform the UFO/exopolitics research community. The fact that the document emerged from the Office of Counterintelligence in the Defense Intelligence Agency does raise this possibility.

The second conclusion is that the briefing document is genuine and vindicates most of what Scully was told forty years earlier about the Aztec incident. Importantly, the briefing document confirms that Scully was not duped by two conmen. Newton and GeBauer had in fact disclosed accurate information about the landing in what was deemed a major security breach by Majestic 12. Scully’s book had successfully revealed operational details of one of the biggest flying saucer secrets held by the national security establishment.

As to which of these two conclusions is more accurate, further study of the contents of the 1989 briefing document is necessary.

[Continued here].

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Further Reading

A new leaked Majestic-12 document was released on June 14 which describes a variety of extraterrestrial related encounters with humanity. This document includes claims that Nikola Tesla’s pioneering radio broadcasts into outer space in the late 1800’s alerted distant extraterrestrials to humanity’s existence, which led to them traveling to our planet, and later President Eisenhower established full diplomatic relations with these visiting extraterrestrials in 1954.

The 47 page document is currently being reviewed by a number of document authentication researchers, but the preliminary conclusion drawn by veteran researcher Stanton Friedman is that there is no evidence of forgery according to Heather Wade, host of the radio show Midnight in the Desert.

Heather Wade received documents last night from a trusted source. She immediately had Stanton Friedman take a look at these documents who said, “I have never seen anything like this, this is new MJ12 information.” Stanton Friedman is going to continue examining these documents for authenticity, but at this time we can find no evidence of forgery.

Similarly, Dr. Robert Wood, another leading Majestic documents researcher, has also shared his preliminary view in an email that the “Stamps, markings, style, content, names” look genuine.

The documents was sent by an anonymous whistleblower source to Wade who revealed its existence during her June 14 show, along with details about the document’s background. Wade asserts that the whistleblower is known to her and is a reliable source, but she is not going to release the person’s identity.

Additional information was provided to Linda Moulton Howe at Earthfiles.com that there are in fact two sources, both of whom are retired military personnel. Wade plans to interview Howe and other UFO researchers to help ascertain the document’s legitimacy and significance.

In the meantime, readers are encouraged to read the document for themselves, which Wade has made freely available on her website.

What follows is a description of the key points made in the document, and their significance. An extensive analysis of the document will be provided in part 2 of this series.

According to a cover page, the documents is a “preliminary briefing” created by the Defense Intelligence Agency’s Office of Counter Intelligence, on January 8, 1989. The full title of the briefing package is “Assessment of the Situation/Statement of Position on Unidentified Flying Objects”, and it is addressed to the Office of the President.

The briefing officer is described as “MJ-1″ who, based on historical precedent, has been the sitting CIA Director.

The CIA Director at the time of the 1989 briefing was William Webster, who served as Director from May 26, 1987 to August 31, 1991. Previously, he was FBI Director from February 23, 1978 before heading the CIA under President Reagan. His Wikipedia entry mentions that he is the only person ever to have held both of these positions.

The briefing document refers to four groups of extraterrestrial visitors which are listed in order of importance to our planet, and cites whether they are friendly or not:

There are four basic types of EBEs so-far confirmed. And they are listed here in descending order of their influences on our planet.

A.    Earth-like humanoids. There are several variations more-or-less like ourselves. The majority of these are friendly and are the bulk of our EBE contacts. Most have a high degree of psychic ability and all use science and engineering of an advanced nature.

B.    Small humanoids or “Grays”. The Grays, so–called for the hue of their skin possessed by most of this type, are a sort of drone. They are not unlike the worker ants or bees…. They are mostly under the psychic control of the Earth-like humanoids who raise them like pets (or a kind of slave). Assuming the Greys are under benign control, they are harmless.

C.    Non-humaoid EBEs. These are in several classes and come from worlds where dominatnt morphology took a different evolutionary course. Many of these are dangerous not for organized hostile intentions, but because such creatures do not hold human life as sacred…. Thus far, contact has been minimal with only a handful of unfortunate encounters.

D.    Transmorphic Entities. Of all the forms of EBE studied so far by Operation  Majestic, these are the most difficult to understand or even to give a description of. Essentially, such entities are not “beings” or “creatures” … exist in some either dimension or plane which is to say not in our space or time. They do not use devices or travel in space…. In essence these entities are composed of pure mind energies. … They are said (by other EBEs) to be capable of taking on any physical form that they “channel” their energy … as matter.

As the above description suggests, most extraterrestrial interactions are depicted as friendly, particularly those involving the human looking entities. They have engaged in a number of non-hostile interactions with humanity that date back to Nikola Teslas’ pioneering radio and energy broadcasts in the late 1800’s. The briefing document continues:

In 1899, the Yugoslavic electrical scientist, Nikola Tesla, most noted for his introduction of alternating current to electrical power transmission and a laboratory device named after him (the Tesla coil) embarked on a number of researches that have made this the saucer century. Tesla had long proposed that it was possible to directly broadcast pure electrical energies at a distance without loss of power and without wires. By 1899, and with … government and private scientific backing, Tesla had chosen a site near Colorado Springs, Colorado to conduct a massive and never repeated experiment…. Tesla’s purpose to gather the Earth’s own magnetic field and to use the Earth as a huge transmitter to send signals to outer space in an attempt to contact whoever might be living there. Tesla had no idea that the specific type of power he had generated was coursing through space and caused great havoc many light years away.

Without realizing it, Tesla’s use of the Earth’s magnetic field to direct radio transmissions into space had created a disruptive energy weapon – essentially the world’s first Directed Energy Weapon, but at a planetary scale! The effect of doing this was analogous to the development of Warp Drive in the fictional Star Trek series, and humanity was now on the Galactic radar for the first time.

The briefing document describes what happened as a result of Tesla’s experiments:

The extraterrestrial intelligence (EI’s) attempted to respond to his transmissions in a form of binary code that they routinely use for long range communications (evidently these energies act instantly at a distance and are not limited to the speed of light) and ask that he cease sending. Of course, Tesla had no way of understanding the message he received back from space. Fortunately, the anger of local residents at the side-effects of his research forced him to shut down the Colorado Springs experiments in the same year he began them.

Significantly, the briefing document is acknowledging that communications were instantaneous, and that the speed of light is not an absolute limit, at least for the kind of communications used by the aliens.

Critically, it was Tesla’s experiments, according to the briefing document, which ushered in the flying saucer age due to the powerful effect of his energy transmissions which had used the Earth’s magnetic field:

This, then, was the actual start of the so-called “flying saucer age” in our times. As it became clear that our people were on the verge of an explosion of technical progress, the EI’s decided on a long term program of carefully calculated and seemingly random contact with the eventual goal of raising our awareness of our place in the galactic community. With the advent of the Atomic Age, this program was escalated to included eventual diplomatic contact with many of Earth’s governments. The same approach of staging apparent “accidental” contact was chosen for its low psychological impact on the human race. This was the situation in the case of the United States of America (re: Roswell and Aztec, New Mexico files, this briefing).

The briefing document refers to the famed 1947 Roswell UFO Crash, and the national security mechanism that had been developed to investigate it, and maintain a secrecy system. While the Roswell Crash is well known, the next case described in the document is not.

There was a “controlled landing” of a flying saucer on March 25, 1948 in Aztec, New Mexico, which the briefing document describes:

The controlled landing occurred in a small desert canyon on the private grazing land of a local farmer and rancher… about 12.2 miles northeast of Aztec New Mexico. The ship was determined to be 99.983 feet in diameter. Inside the upper cabin .. the team found the bodies of two (2) small humanoids about four feet in height strapped into seats like those in a jet cockpit… The extraterrestrials were dead. 

The briefing document reported that the extraterrestrials had died because of an atmospheric leak caused by impact with a nearby cliff face. The report then described the discovery of cryogenic tubes with human-looking bodies in the lower level, four of which were successfully resuscitated:

A closer look at the sealed tubes which looked like the doors of clothes dryers at a laundromat revealed that they were a complex form of refrigeration system. Two were empty and twelve contained the bodies of what looked like human adults and small children as well as infants, all frozen as if preserved for specimens…. Eventually the medical team was able to resuscitate one adult Earth-like humanoid male and three (3) Earth-like humanoid infants, all about six (6) months of age: two male and one female. The rest of the infants and one more short, gray-skinned, large-headed OBE, perished.

The adult survivor, according to the briefing document, looked human but was clearly an extraterrestrial who though human looking, had physiological differences, which included having two livers. The document describes how diplomatic negotiations began the surviving adult extraterrestrial:

After a hasty tele-conference with President Truman, it was explained to the visitor that if his intentions proved to be non-hostile and he cooperated in an information exchange, he would be granted diplomatic status and soon be repatriated to his own kind when the arrangement could be made. To this he readily agreed, provided he was not asked to give away any scientific secrets that could alter the course of our natural cultural development.

What comes next details the year-long diplomatic exchanges between the extraterrestrial visitor and the Truman administration, before he was returned to his people:

Altogether, the Aztec EBE lived under our protective custody on the Los Alamos complex for nearly a full year, from late April 1948 – until March of 1949. After that, he was sequestered at a private safehouse set-up by Army Intelligence … during which time he met with the President and other top government and military administrators, prior to his being returned to his people in August of 1949. He gave the scientists and military debriefers a great deal of mostly non-technical information about his civilization and it’s motives for being on our Earth; a total of six hundred and eighty-three (683) pages of transcripts were made of recorded conversations.

The briefing document goes on to explain how technology given to US military authorities would be given to the Soviet Union also by the extraterrestrials:

The EBE saw little harm in allowing us to keep the remains of his spacecraft for study, since he felt our understanding of it would only gradually develop. He did suggest that his people would “probably have to drop one in similar condition in the laps of the Soviet Union – just for the balance of things to be sustained,” and “You are welcome to take this up with any higher authority you can find willing to listen to you, if you do not approve of this ….”

In 1948, the US and USSR were the world’s only known nuclear powers and leaders of the two most powerful political blocs, so it makes sense why they were specifically helped in this way. Yet more startling is what the extraterrestrials said about the alien infants:

The team of scientists were told that the human-like infants were destined for our world anyway, and we were welcome to keep them. On 21 August 1949, the Aztec EBE was returned to his own kind at a meeting site southwest of Kirtland Air Force Base, … and arrangement were made for a future meeting at the same location, to open diplomatic relations.

In gifting three human-looking extraterrestrial infants to US authorities, the apparent intent was that the aliens would be raised in human society and in the future help establish friendly relations between our two worlds. Presumably, the same thing happened in the USSR. By 1989, when the briefing document was prepared,the alien children would be 40+ year old adults.

Were there alien children residing in the US and USSR, and were they a factor in the end of the Cold War?

In 1954, the briefing document refers to President Eisenhower traveling to Kirtland Air Force Base where he established full diplomatic relations with the human looking extraterrestrials:

The preceding diplomatic treaty was drafted by the director of the Majestic-12 operation and a joint committee of extra-terrestrial visitors and representatives of the U.S. Diplomatic Corps, as a statement of intent. It was ratified and signed at Kirtland Air Force Base … on July the eighteenth, 1954 by President Dwight B. Eisenhower and an individual on the behalf of the EBEs.

As mentioned earlier, authenticating the briefing document has only just begun but so far experts have spotted no sign of fraud.

Former FBI/CIA Director William Webster photographed in 2016

The weight of this document’s significance is particularly extraordinary because a number of senior officials are named. If William Webster was MJ-1 at the time of the briefing then this would be highly significant.

He is currently Chairman of the Homeland Security Advisory Council, and is in a position to go on the official record about the genuineness of the briefing document. 

If Webster does confirm or hints at its legitimacy, and/or his direct involvement, this will have a powerful effect on the prospects of official disclosure.

In part two of this series, I will provide an exopolitical analysis of the alleged MJ-12 document’s contents, how it compares to information disclosed by a number of secret space program witnesses, and its potential impact on world events.

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Further Reading

The movie Snowden by Oliver Stone performs a masterful job in depicting efforts by the National Security Agency (NSA) in comprehensively gathering up electronic communications between people and organizations in the U.S. and all over the world. Stone correctly displays the routine violation of U.S. constitutional rights such practices entail, and why Edward Snowden was motivated to become a whistleblower and leak official state secrets to journalists in order to reveal what was happening.

The movie frames the core issue raised by Snowden as personal privacy being a right protected by the US Constitution, except in cases where courts grant exceptions due to criminal activities or national security. In the case of the NSA, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) had become a judicial rubber stamp for NSA spying. Snowden, however, revealed that personal privacy is routinely violated without any FISA court rulings, and with no transparency and accountability in the process used by the NSA and the intelligence community more generally.

Subsequently, journalists such as Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras have seen their careers skyrocket as a result of their coverage of Snowden’s releases, and the need to curtail state sanctioned violations of personal privacy on spurious national security grounds. In short, the NSA and intelligence community should not be allowed to spy on private citizens without solid legal justification.

This raises the question of why is the NSA and the intelligence community spying on private citizens, and violating U.S. constitutional norms in the process? What Snowden the movie suggests is that the “war on terror”, which is used to justify individual surveillance, is a mere figleaf for more long-term cyber threats posed by China and Russia, and the need to give U.S. corporations a competitive edge against international rivals.

This is where Snowden and the journalists covering his revelations fail to see the big picture emerging from deeper forces at play when it comes to NSA spying on private citizens. First, we need to separate the military intelligence community comprising the NSA, Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), etc., from civilian controlled organizations such as the Central Intelligence Agency.

While the chief purpose of the NSA, DIA and other military intelligence organizations is to conduct intelligence and counter-intelligence operations, it is the CIA which is uniquely tasked by the U.S. Congress to conduct covert operations. This is where the CIA will send its operatives into countries and organizations not merely to gather intelligence or perform counter-intelligence, but to conduct covert operations including sabotage, blackmail, coups, false flag operations, assassination, etc.

What further needs to be considered is that the CIA since its inception in 1947 under President Harry Truman, has conducted its covert operations without genuine oversight or transparency. There is literally no mechanism within the U.S. bureaucracy by which CIA covert operations can be understood, let alone accounted for. This led to Truman famously regretting his decision to enable the CIA to go beyond mere “human intelligence”  gathering. He said on December 22, 1963:

I think it has become necessary to take another look at the purpose and operations of our Central Intelligence Agency — CIA . . . For some time I have been disturbed by the way the CIA has been diverted from its original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy-making arm of the Government. This has led to trouble and may have compounded our difficulties in several explosive areas. . . . We have grown up as a nation, respected for our free institutions and for our ability to maintain a free and open society. There is something about the way the CIA has been functioning that is casting a shadow over our historic position and I feel that we need to correct it.

Coming one month after President Kennedy’s assassination, Truman was ominously hinting at a CIA link to the national tragedy

In contrast to the CIA, military intelligence operations are conducted in conformity with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and run according to a strict chain of command. Basically, at the apex of the NSA, and other military intelligence organizations, the officials running these agencies can be held accountable for their actions.

What further compounds the problem with CIA covert operations is who does the CIA work for? On the surface, the CIA works for the U.S. Congress and Executive Branch of Government including the U.S. President. That is largely correct when it comes to the CIA analytical division, what Truman pointed to as its “original assignment”, but what about its covert operations division which has been known over the years by a number of names, the current one being the “National Clandestine Service”?

There is abundant evidence that CIA covert operations are controlled by a “Shadow Government,” which has its own agenda, entirely separate to the “Representative Government,” periodically elected. This “Shadow Government” involves elite groups and other mysterious forces who are presently accountable to no one, and want to keep things that way.

Deceased US Senator Daniel Inouye famously said:

There exists a shadowy Government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of the national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself.

When President John F. Kennedy attempted to gain access to the CIA’s most closely guarded secrets about UFOs, he was assassinated in a covert action led by the chief of CIA counterintelligence, James Jesus Angleton. My book, Kennedy’s Last Stand, documents how Angleton was following a set of directives given to him by a mysterious control group known as Majestic 12 to respond to Kennedy and any future President who might become a problem concerning control over the UFO topic.

Consequently, when it comes to answering the question, “why is the NSA spying on private citizens”, the answer is more complex than the NSA simply wanting to know about citizens’ private affairs in order to more effectively deal with global terrorism. The NSA and the military intelligence community is more interested in learning about covert CIA activities, and how this impacts U.S. national security.

This then adds a new layer of complexity to the Snowdon movie. Prior to becoming an NASA operative, Snowden was a CIA analyst who allegedly became disenchanted with its covert operations, and resigned. After resuming his work with the CIA, Snowden was transferred to the Hawaii branch of Booz Allen Hamilton, an NSA contractor, ostensibly for healthier working conditions.

This raises the questions, was Snowdon a CIA mole whose job was to expose NSA spying, or was he alternatively set up by the CIA so that he would eventually reveal the truth about the NSA data collection operations as a whistleblower?

The true goal of such a CIA covert operation then was not to reveal the NSA’s spying activities in order to protect American civil liberties, but to curtail the effectiveness of the NSA’s intelligence gathering on CIA covert operations. This was done in order to keep hidden not just CIA operatives, but the puppet masters behind the CIA covert operations whose power and influence extends to sitting U.S. Presidents. This was a lesson President Kennedy learned the hard way, and President-Elect Trump is already learning with the CIA’s covert operations to undermine his incoming administration.

In this regard, former NSA employee and investigative reporter, Wayne Madsen, said:

The CIA’s effort to deny Trump the presidency is being supported by a cavalcade of retired CIA officials, including former director Michael Hayden, former acting director Michael Morell, and former clandestine services officer Robert Baer. These and other former CIA officials would not be attacking Trump’s credentials to serve as president without a wink and a nod from current CIA director John Brennan.

If the above analysis is correct, what this suggests is that Snowden is at best an unwitting dupe manipulated by the CIA, or at worst a CIA mole whose real mission was to impact NSA intelligence gathering operations which pose a threat to CIA covert operations.

It is understandable that if the U.S. military intelligence community was aware of the full extent of CIA operations involving sabotage, blackmail, false flag events, assassination, in the U.S. and around the world, that some of these operations would be neutralized. This is especially significant when it comes to the incoming inauguration ceremony of President Trump.

On the very day and time that Trump is to be inaugurated, news has emerged that the Army General commanding the D.C. National Guard is to be relieved of duty at 12:01 pm in the midst of the inauguration ceremony.

The U.S. Army general who heads the D.C. National Guard and is an integral part of overseeing the inauguration said Friday he has been ordered removed from command effective Jan. 20, 12:01 p.m., just as Donald Trump is sworn in as president. Maj. Gen. Errol R. Schwartz’s departure will come in the midst of the presidential ceremony, classified as a national special security event — and while thousands of his troops are deployed to help protect the nation’s capital during an inauguration he has spent months helping to plan.

The Washington Post interviewed Schwartz on Friday January 13, and reported his answers to his puzzling dismissal orders from an unknown Pentagon source:

“The timing is extremely unusual,” Schwartz said in an interview Friday morning, confirming a memo announcing his ouster that was obtained by The Washington Post. During the inauguration, Schwartz would command not only the members of the D.C. guard but also an additional 5,000 unarmed troops sent in from across the country to help. He also would oversee military air support protecting the nation’s capital during the inauguration. “My troops will be on the street,” said Schwartz, who turned 65 in October. “I’ll see them off, but I won’t be able to welcome them back to the armory.” He said he would “never plan to leave a mission in the middle of a battle.”

The confusion already caused by this mysterious order received by Schwartz is a tell-tale sign of a CIA covert operation in the making.

While Snowden, Greenwald and Poitras are to be commended for their forceful advocacy of civil liberties, and unaccountable national security state encroachments upon these liberties, they fail to take into account the deeper layers of the global control system, whereby the CIA’s covert operations are ultimately directed by a Shadow Government.

The CIA’s covert operations have long been a rogue element in the U.S. national security system, one that the military intelligence community has attempted to monitor and curtail when appropriate. That is especially important with the incoming Trump administration and CIA covert actions already underway against it.

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Further Reading

In a December 11, 2016 report, secret space program whistleblower Corey Goode described an announcement of the existence of Tall White extraterrestrials as an option being considered for a limited disclosure initiative orchestrated by the U.S. Air Force, Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency.  Goode said:

Another potential plan that is in the “optional” category involves the possible disclosure of a single ET group known as the “Tall Whites.” This is the group that Charles Hall and others have met up with. The Cabal might try to introduce us to this group, explain they have been around for a really long time, and hope that they can get us to follow a mystical new religion offered by these beings. This would definitely not be in humanity’s best interest.

In order to acquaint readers to Charles Hall and his testimony concerning the Tall Whites, and why Goode’s conclusion about them is accurate, I have decided to re-post a series of articles and interviews about Hall’s testimony, which began in November 2004. What follows is the third article in the series. [For part one click here, for part two click here]

Michael Salla, Ph.D.

Jan 2, 2017

[Repost from 12/15/2004] What follows is based on recent correspondence with Charles Hall from December 5-14, 2004 where he answers a number of questions, regarding the existence of ‘tall white’ extraterrestrials that he met while serving at Nellis Air Force base as a duty weather observer from 1965-67. His experiences are recorded in his three [now five] volume set of books, Millennial Hospitality. I had personally interviewed him on December 2 and summarized his responses from my interview notes to gain a general impression of him. I found Charles Hall to be a credible witness of extraterrestrials that he met while serving at Nellis AFB, and he displayed remarkable qualities of integrity and fidelity in explaining the events that occurred.

In this correspondence, I asked a set of questions on December 5, which he answered by email on December 12. I then sent some follow up questions which he answered on December 14. My aim in this correspondence was to focus of the activities of the ‘tall whites’ and their interactions with the US Air Force (USAF) in terms of better understanding the details of their trade and technological exchanges. The questions and answers from this correspondence have been thematically organized, and grammatical corrections have been made. I begin this paper with the questions and answers supplied by Charles Hall. I finish this paper with my evaluation of his correspondence which I believe is vitally important in gaining a better idea of the political implications of the tall white’s secret trade and technology agreements with US military/government authorities.

Michael E. Salla, PhD
December 16, 2004

M.S. Michael Salla
C.H. Charles Hall

M.S. You describe the tall whites as building scout crafts using materials found on Earth. Can you elaborate on how you came to know this information?

C.H. This information is based on my personal observations. In book two I describe the afternoon when The Teacher and Range Four Harry were showing me the inside of one of the scout craft. Many of the items, such as the seats and the overhead compartments still carried the mold markings placed on them by various American industries such as Boeing aircraft and Lockheed corporation. The overhead compartments were obviously “off-the-shelf” items from companies such as Airstream corporation. Many of the clothing items that the tall whites were wearing were obviously purchased straight out of the Sears and Montgomery Wards Catalogs.

M.S. Can you name some of the materials used by the tall whites, and what role did the US military play in supplying these materials?

C.H. One of the big items was children’s clothing. In the mid 1960’s, on at least one occasion the USAF purchased more than $600,000 worth of children’s clothing from the Sears stores and warehouse in Los Angeles, California, picked it up in Government trucks, and shipped it to Indian Springs Auxiliary Field, Nevada. the trucks delivered the clothing to the main tall white base at the north end of Indian Springs Valley.

M.S. Did you ever see the tall whites eat, and what kind of food did they eat?

C.H. I never personally saw the tall whites actually eat food, although I’m quite certain that they ate food as we humans do. For example, as described in my books, I did see the tall white guard in the restaurant the old Aladdin casino ( before it was remodeled ) sitting at the table behind me, disguised as a human wearing a black formal suit and wearing sunglasses even though it was night (not unusual for Las Vegas, Nev at the time). He had ordered a complete dinner with water and cola to drink. It was on the table in front of him. However, he did not appear to have eaten any of it. My friends who are range maintenance men told me that in the fall they frequently saw the tall whites up in the mountains collecting grass seeds and seeds of other eatable plants apparently for the purpose of eating. In any event, I’m certain that the tall whites ate only plants and never ate any meat or any of the ordinary meat products.

The food that I saw packaged and sealed in plastic bags on the scout craft, looked like thick mushroom pudding. It had obviously been prepared by the tall whites themselves, up in their living quarters and was intended for snacks and meals to be eaten when they were out hiking, etc. The Teacher at that time stated that the food was intended for the children but that sometimes the adults ate it if they were hungry. The Teacher used to make a pleasant joke about the little boy that I called the little fat astronaut. She used to laughingly say that he was the one who liked the food, so perhaps they felt that the food here on earth wasn’t as tasteful as the food they were used to back on their home planet. On a different occasion The Teacher stated pleasantly that it wouldn’t be a good idea for me to eat all of the foods that they ate. She implied that two of their favorite foods would have adverse effects on me. It was my understanding that it might take my body as long and 2 years ( for one ) and 5 years for the other to get used to them. It was my understanding that eating those foods made a person feel very “HIGH” somewhat similar to drinking various quantities of alcohol.

I note from my studies of organic chemistry that the chemical molecule that gives the odor and flavor to strawberries is such a chemically simple molecule that it could be easily created by both plants and chemists on earth-like planets throughout the galaxy. For example, I’m told that a number of plants here on earth produce fruit that tastes similar to strawberries.

Likewise from my studies of Organic Chemistry, the sugar and starch molecules are the basis of energy foods and must certainly be important energy sources on every earth-like planet in our galaxy. Therefore, my guess is that one of the types of food that the tall whites would enjoy would be strawberry flavored puddings that were high in natural sugars and starches. As I remember it, the tall white guard sitting in the old Alladin restaurant had ordered a piece of artificially flavored strawberry pie although he did not appear to have eaten any of it.

M.S. What kind of food was supplied by the USAF to the tall whites?

C.H. I have no idea. However, the USAF was certainly supplying them with as much food of any type they requested. As I state in book one, the Tall Whites were inspecting the food storage rooms in the Indian Springs AAF chow hall. It was my understanding that a few of the tall whites foods are made from plants that do not grow here on this earth. It is my understanding that their home planet is larger( perhaps twice as large) much drier and much warmer than the earth. So it would be natural for some of their plants to be unable to grow here on earth.

M.S. Was the food given to the tall whites in excess of their local needs and intended for interstellar trade?

C.H. The USAF was obviously willing to give them as much of any food item that they requested, no questions asked. The USAF was obviously entirely willing to give them both food and non-animal based clothing items ( cotton, nylon, etc) without limit for use as trading materials.

M.S. Did the US play any role in the actual construction of the tall white’s scout craft?

C.H. I’m not sure. From what I saw, the tall whites performed all of the construction activities themselves. I’m certain that the tall whites performed all work on the propulsion systems and on the fiber optics windings themselves.

M.S. Did the military have personnel observe the tall whites in the construction process or observe their construction facilities?

C.H. I’m certain that the tall whites did not allow any USAF personnel to observe the construction process. In book two, in the chapter entitled “Two Games on one Board” I describe the day that I was able to observe their repair activities from a short distance. To the best of my knowledge, I am the only human that was allowed to view those activities from as close as I was.

M.S. You described the hangar that was used as a base for the larger interstellar spacecraft used by the tall whites. Was this built solely by the tall whites or did the US military play a role in this?

C.H. The hanger appeared to have been entirely constructed by the USAF for use by the tall whites. For example, the inside of the hanger looked just like any other ordinary aircraft hanger. It included ordinary fire extinguishers, arrows marking exits, etc. In addition to writing and signs on the walls in english, it also include hieroglyphics and icons used by the aliens. The alien writing was done in pink paint against a white background.

M.S. When in your view was the hangar supplied by the USAF for the tall whites built?

C.H. I have no idea. However, I’m certain that the legends of Range Four Harry go back at least as far as 1954. The hanger construction ( i.e. its steel supports, its other materials, it’s lighting designs, its concrete doors that raised up in narrow sections by being lifted up from the top, etc ) were consistent with the construction techniques used in the late 1940’s and early 1950’s.

I note that president Harry Truman believed that he had seen a ghost in the white house during the late 1940’s and early 1950’s when he was president. In his description, he specifically stated that the white house guards would first “fall asleep” before the ghost came. His description of the ghost matches very very closely the actual appearance and behavior of an older tall white guard. President Truman mistakenly believed that he had seen a ghost of President Abraham Lincoln. My suggestion is that you research the stories of Lincoln’s “ghost” in the White House, the “ghost” of DONNA ANNA county in Las Cruces New Mexico and at White Sands New Mexico ( 1947?). My belief is that you will be surprised to see that descriptions of these “ghosts” and their behavior matches very very closely with the actual appearance and behavior of the tall whites. Remember that many of the range maintenance men who saw the tall whites believed that they were seeing “ghosts”.

M.S. Are all the bases used by tall whites in the US supplied and constructed by the USAF?

C.H. I have no idea. My guess is that the answer is yes because I only saw USAF generals and personnel out on the Nellis Ranges.

M.S. You contrast nuclear powered propulsion as elementary for the tall whites which they supplied to the US military. You contrast this with anti-gravity propulsion which they did not supply. Are these the only two propulsion systems that the tall whites openly discussed or make known to the US authorities or to you?

C.H. Yes, as far as I know.

M.S. You mention that the tall whites supplied the know how for nuclear powered scout craft. Did the tall whites actually fly nuclear powered scout craft when on Earth or did they use anti-gravity propulsion in their scout craft?

C.H. The tall whites always used the anti-gravity powered space craft and scout craft. The nuclear powered craft were only for use by the USAF.

M.S. What kind of speed were the nuclear powered scout craft capable of, in contrast to the anti-gravity propelled scout craft?

C.H. Vastly slower. The anti-gravity craft were capable of speeds in excess of the speed of light where as the nuclear powered were capable of just ordinary rocket powered speeds.

M.S. Why do you believe that the tall whites took USAF officers for short trips to the moon?

C.H. Because of the significant number of times that I personally saw the Tall Whites using their scout craft ( with groups of USAF Generals on board ) taking off more or less straight up from Indian Springs valley just after sun rise when the moon was in the fourth quarter. The scout craft always headed towards the moon. Then later the same day, I would personally see the same scout craft returning just before noon back to the Indian Springs valley and landing. When the USAF Generals got off the craft they were laughing like they had just come back from the world’s best amusement park.

M.S. Do the tall whites have bases on the moon or other nearby planets?

C.H. I have no idea. However, as described in my writings, on the day ( in book two ) when I was shown the inside of one of the scout craft Range Four Harry stated, in what he considered to be a humorous story about the American Generals, that the reason the tall whites had taken a small group of American Generals for a short ride in the craft was to discuss the American request for help in building bases within the solar system.

Harry stated that the tall whites believed that the earth itself was the only reasonable location for bases within this solar system because all of the other locations were cold and uninhabitable.

M.S. Do you know if the tall whites assisted in the construction of moon facilities for the USAF?

C.H. I have no idea. However, I can’t imagine that the USAF would undertake such construction without first requesting help from the tall whites.

M.S. Did you ever hear of the tall whites taking officers to Mars or any other planet on one of their shuttles?

C.H. Yes. One occasion was described in my answer above. There were a number of other occasions that I am not able to describe in emails.

M.S. Would you surmise that in the almost 40 years since you last communicated/interacted with tall whites, that they may have supplied the know how for larger craft to the US military as part of more recent technology exchange agreements?

C.H. I can only guess. I would not think the tall whites would have changed their policy. They live roughly 10 times longer than humans. Forty years isn’t much time for them.

M.S. You mention that the tall whites regularly used Earth as a port of call for their large interstellar ships. Do you have any idea of what the cargo was for these ships that presumably were engaged in some sort of trade?

C.H. I feel certain that children’s clothes and adult clothes and food stuffs were big items. I also feel certain that pure refined metals such as aluminum and titanium were also included in the trade.

M.S. Any estimate for the total number of tall whites on Earth?

C.H. In book three in the chapter entitled “The End of the Innocence” I describe personally seeing more than 200-300 individuals lined up along the base of the mountains to the east of range three. Each large deep space craft could probably hold approximately the same number of individuals as a typical passenger cruise ship.

M.S. Would it be fair to say that the US military limits the number of tall whites on Earth due to the fear of them colonizing the Earth?

C.H. I can only guess. However, I would doubt very seriously that the US government has the ability to place any limits of that type on the tall whites. The tall whites are very independent. As I describe in my books, I wouldn’t think that any human, US government or otherwise would dare saying “No” to them or trying to limit them against their will. It would be suicide to try. Any such agreement would have to be very carefully negotiated.


Evaluation (M.S)
The tall whites’ construction of scout craft using material supplied by the USAF immediately strikes one as quite significant. Why would an interstellar race with advanced technological capabilities require local material unless those tall whites on Earth were expected to fend for themselves using what local material was available? The tall whites are presumably in a very analogous position to the first colonists in the New World who needed local material while waiting to be resupplied by the mother colony. In exchange for local material and a base constructed by the USAF, the tall whites give in exchange the technological know how for the construction of nuclear powered scout crafts for visiting planets in the solar system. This suggests that the US have capabilities for space flight that far exceeds what is publicly known, and gives credence to allegations that secret military bases exist on the Moon and Mars (http://www.themarsrecords.com/ ).

The statement that the tall whites take on board their large interstellar ships material such as aluminum, titanium, food as well as clothes for both children and adults suggests that an active interstellar trade is occurring. The tall whites are acting as interstellar merchants identifying and gaining possession of Earth resources that are used by the tall whites for undisclosed purposes elsewhere in the galaxy. Charles Hall explains that the US would supply food to the tall whites without any questions, and that this would be used as part of the trade the tall whites were engaged in. Now the question to be raised here is just how extensive is this? How much food are the tall whites taking, and is it exclusively for their use? Could it be used to supply, for example, populations on other planets that have a food shortage? Alternatively, could it be used to feed captive human populations relocated to other worlds?

Now what strikes one as quite odd is the reliance on human clothing and food by the tall whites. It is strange that the tall whites require human clothes in excess of their local needs, if there truly exists such a local need by the tall whites for human clothing as Charles Hall was led to believe. Why wouldn’t the tall whites prefer their own clothing products both on and off Earth? After all, colonialism was historically distinguished by the colonial rulers imposing their own dress codes and customs on local populations. The tall whites hardly come across as profound admirers of humanity and its civilization as Hall reveals in his description of their contemptuous attitude towards USAF servicemen, and how they viewed the abundance of less intelligent life forms on Earth as very primitive. Indeed the tall whites stated that “[o]n most planets, once people become intelligent, they don’t want to have anything to do with the animals that are much less intelligent than they are, so they kill them off.” (Millennial Hospitality II, p. 349). Would such an extraterrestrial race with a contemptuous attitude for less intelligent life forms, voluntarily wear the clothing of what they regard as a less intelligent species?

It is hard to accept that the tall whites have a preference for human clothes since this is not a behavior described by other individuals who have had contact with human looking extraterrestrial races in general. It is more likely that the clothes supplied to the tall whites by the USAF was to be used for purposes other than clothing the tall whites either on Earth or elsewhere. One plausible purpose is for interstellar trade. This would imply that the tall whites are trading with off humanoid races that may find human clothes to be exotic and attractive in the same way modern Europeans might find traditional Chinese clothes attractive. Another possible use is that the tall whites are using the clothes to supply humans from Earth that have been relocated to other worlds visited or controlled by the tall whites.

As in the case of food, was the real purpose of the clothes supplied to the tall whites intended for humans that were secretly being relocated by the tall whites? Could the use of human clothes by the tall whites described by Charles Hall have been a cover for the real use of the clothes, to clothe humans shipped to interstellar locations as a part of a resource exchange program? Perhaps, more disturbingly, could the food and clothing supplied to the tall whites be part of a resource exchange program that the US military is aware of but feels powerless to stop? All these questions require further investigation by those committed to making public exactly what Earth resources are being given to the tall whites, and for what purposes.

This takes me to the final issue which concerns Charles response that the tall whites can’t be restricted in any way by the USAF. He believes that it is suicidal to try to restrict the tall whites, and that only carefully negotiated agreements can be made with them. This is reminiscent of the comments by Col Phillip Corso that the US had entered into a kind of ‘negotiated surrender’ with an extraterrestrial race:

We had negotiated a kind of surrender with them [extraterrestrials] as long as we couldn’t fight them. They dictated the terms because they knew what we most feared was disclosure” (The Day After Roswell, p.292).

Hall certainly believes, along with the US military, that the tall white’s technological superiority forces the US military to enter into agreements that may not reflect very favorable terms.

In Millennial Hospitality, a revealing passage describes the extent to which the tall whites want to instill in Charles a sense of the technological superiority of the tall whites and the ineffectiveness of any offensive measures (vol II, pp. 274-75). Charles is told to throw a rock at a tall white guard and reluctantly complies only to witness it being stopped in mid-flight, along with other rocks that were thrown. This display of technological superiority was designed to demonstrate to Charles, and presumably, the USAF, the failure of any kind of attack on the tall whites. However, rather than demonstrate the tall whites technological superiority, doesn’t this act of bravado achieve the very opposite? Doesn’t it reveal that the tall whites are perhaps too eager to impress upon Charles and the USAF the futility of any kind of attack on the tall whites? This eagerness most likely comes not from a sense of invulnerability, but from a perceived weakness that they are intending to hide.

It has been speculated by remote viewers such as Ingo Swann that extraterrestrial races with advanced technologies are actually quite vulnerable to the advanced psychic abilities of humans (Penetration: The Question of Extraterrestrial and Human Telepathy, 1998 ). If it is accurate that the tall whites feel vulnerable to some human potential that might threaten them, then it may be that psychic abilities are what the tall whites fear, rather than US military technology. If this is the case, then that might explain why Charles Hall has been allowed to come forward and reveal to the general public his remarkable contact experiences while serving in the USAF.

If the tall whites are engaging in resource extraction from Earth on terms that the US military and/or the ‘shadow government’ is unhappy with but feels unable to change, then the US military/Shadow government may be looking for some way to change the terms of their agreements. If Swann and others are correct about human psychic abilities and the potential of human consciousness, then releasing this information to the general public may be a means of introducing global consciousness as a factor in what has been secretly occurring.

In conclusion, Charles Hall reveals important details about the nature of the agreements between US government/military authorities and the tall whites. The resource extraction that is occurring may be nothing more than the benign exchange of food, clothes and metals for advanced technology supplied by the tall whites. On the other hand, a more sinister extraction of Earth resources is happening, one that may involve the relocation of humans who are fed and clothed by material supplied to the tall whites by the USAF, who feel powerless to prevent this. Whatever the truth concerning the resource extraction that is happening, it is important that the general public become informed of what is occurring in these secret trade agreements, and ensure that such transactions are marked by transparency, accountability and a democratic decision making process. Not only are these desirable political processes an ethical response to the trade agreements with the tall whites, these processes may prove to be a very wise strategic move in dealing with a more technologically advanced extraterrestrial race.

© Michael E. Salla, PhD
December 16, 2004

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In a December 11, 2016 report, secret space program whistleblower Corey Goode described an announcement of the existence of Tall White extraterrestrials as an option being considered for a limited disclosure initiative orchestrated by the U.S. Air Force, Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency.  Goode said:

Another potential plan that is in the “optional” category involves the possible disclosure of a single ET group known as the “Tall Whites.” This is the group that Charles Hall and others have met up with. The Cabal might try to introduce us to this group, explain they have been around for a really long time, and hope that they can get us to follow a mystical new religion offered by these beings. This would definitely not be in humanity’s best interest.

In order to acquaint readers to Charles Hall and his testimony concerning the Tall Whites, and why Goode’s conclusion about them is accurate, I have decided to re-post a series of articles and interviews about Hall’s testimony, which began in November 2004. What follows is the second article in the series. The first article is available here.

Michael Salla, Ph.D.

Dec 26, 2016

[Repost from Dec 3, 2004] What follows is based on an interview with Charles Hall on Dec 2, 2004, regarding the existence of the tall white extraterrestrials that he met while serving at Nellis Air Force base as a duty weather observer from 1965-67. His experiences are recorded in his three volume set of books, Millennial Hospitality. I had earlier read the first two volumes of his book series and recorded my impressions in a short article. I was put in touch with Charles Hall by Paola Harris who was the first major UFO researcher to thoroughly investigate the case.

In the interview, I asked a series of questions and recorded his replies by taking notes. My aim in conducting the interview was to get a better idea of the motivations of the ‘tall whites’ and their exopolitical significance on Earth. I begin this evaluation of my interview by first outlining my questions and Charles Hall’s replies. I finish with my evaluation of his testimony and books which I believe is vitally important as a possible disclosure initiative that will attract much public attention and carries great exopolitical significance.

Michael E. Salla, PhD
December 3, 2004

Q. Why did you call the book a work of fiction?
He had to protect himself and men who served with him. He changed names to protect the innocent, including himself and other serviceman. People he replaced experienced severe psychological pressure and trauma. Some wouldn’t want to be mentioned so he didn’t give their correct names. He affirmed that everything in the books is true. It is as close to a documentary of events he experienced as possible.

Q. How did you recall all conversations recorded in the book?
He didn’t keep a dairy, but kept a log book. He basically relied on memory in writing the book. He relived the emotions as he covered each experience, and this helped his recollection of events and conversations. Key episodes were basically etched into his mind. He had to summarize many conversations. Some conversations had to be reconstructed. Usually conversations with other airmen are summarized/reconstructed. Conversations with tall whites are close to verbatim since the Tall whites didn’t talk much. Tall White men especially didn’t speak much at all. Tall white women were more talkative than the men. If Tall Whites didn’t wear their communication equipment, then they wouldn’t communicate at all. Charles wanted to capture all the emotions he experienced and these are faithfully recorded in the book.

Q. When did you start writing the books?
He first tried telling people verbally about his experiences during 1965-68. When he got a word processor in 1985, he began the typing process using floppy disks. Writing was a slow process for technical reasons and also emotionally since he relived the experiences and this took much time. For example, it took six months before he could control his fears of the tall whites back in 1965.

Q. When did you finish the book?
Back in the 1980s he had trouble in finding a potential publisher for his planned autobiography and also had family responsibilities. In 2002 he became unemployed and began to edit, polish, and publish what he had written so far. The publisher he found, Firstbook.com allowed him to publish it as a ‘print-on-demand’ book where he controlled copyright, etc. He is still not satisfied with what has been published so far, and wants to edit the first volume one more time. Basically the book was work in progress since 1985 up until 2002. Final editing was done from late 2002 to early 2003.

Q. Did you ever take photos?
He never took any photos. When out there by himself he was worried about keeping himself alive and taking photos wasn’t thought of. Initially he thought he was dreaming (that’s why he believes Area 51 is called dreamland). This was a reason why he never thought about taking photos. Later when he realized that the tall whites were real, he talked himself out of it when he went back to his base, so he didn’t think about photos.
Also, he didn’t want to offend the tall whites and stayed on his best behavior. He didn’t think taking pictures was prudent and might offend them, and they could destroy the evidence anyway since they always had access to his belongings.

Q. Did any of the other servicemen ever take pictures of Tall Whites that you were aware of?
He was not aware of that happening, but recalled a paperback book published back in early 1990s there is a set of pictures of tall whites which he believes are authentic. These were published by a New Jersey housewife who traveled to Albuquerque New Mexico and said that she waited on a public highway when she saw a scout craft and she took six pictures of the tall whites standing 6′ 6″. He believes photos are authentic. The implication was that some serviceman had taken the photos and sent them to the author who gave a cover story for how she got the photos. He couldn’t recall the name of the book or the author.

Q. Have you ever been approached or briefed by agencies not to disclose the events on Nellis?
No. He said that weather information was never classified. As a weather observer he was never part of a classified project where security oaths were taken. The orders given to Charlie were classified, but nothing he did was ever to be classified. That was a decision taken by a committee including the tall whites and others in the Pentagon. The idea was that Charlie would be free to interact with the tall whites without being continually briefed. He said that the American generals would do anything to get technology transfers. Generals would permit tall whites to kill service men if they were offended, threatened or harmed. He described an incident in his book where a serviceman had to beg for his life when he yelled at a tall white child. The only reason the tall white didn’t kill him according to Charles was that a tall white male came over to the tall white female and told her that since the serviceman hadn’t hurt the child, the American generals wouldn’t understand why she would kill the serviceman. Charles said that the generals however thought military servicemen were expendable, and wouldn’t allow any killing by the tall whites to stop technology transfers.

Q. Were other servicemen killed by tall whites for offending them?
He explained an incident back in Sept 1965 near the mountain at Indian Springs where the tall whites had their main hangar. One of the cover stories for sightings of tall whites was that they were big horn sheep in the desert. One hunter wanted to shoot one of the ‘sheep’ and rented horses and went with his friend. The hunters eventually separated, and one hunter went near the hangar where the tall whites are based, and took a shot at one of the kids. The tall whites grabbed him and handed him to the human guards who were military personnel. The human guards shot him and gave a cover story for his accidental death. The guards found his friend and beat him up, and threw him into the brig for about six weeks.

Charles said that usually if one wasn’t hurting anyone and was just unarmed and hiking, etc., tall whites wouldn’t bother one. Basically, they would kill if threatened if any way. They believe in tit for tat. If you did nothing to scare or hurt them, the worst they would is to pleasantly scare you away.

Q. You say that the Generals were desperate for technology exchange with tall whites, why do you say that?
They would do anything to maintain good relations with tall whites to get technology.
The tall white ‘Teacher’ had conversations with Charles that demonstrated this. American generals wouldn’t stop tall whites if they were intent on killing servicemen who had hurt any tall white child. Tall whites exchanged technologies such as radio and communications systems, but not faster than light speed technology. Technology exchange was done on the basis on only those technologies that would benefit Tall Whites, such as good radios and communications that they could use as well if necessary.

He gave the example that the tall whites would help with a nuclear powered craft but not propulsion systems for deep space travel. Anti-gravity technologies were not shared with the generals which were deep space capable. American generals were sometimes in the scout craft of the tall whites so the technology for the scout ships was shared to an extent since the scout ships were made on Earth using materials here with the assistance of the US military. Tall Whites sometimes participated in classified meetings and helped with technology development. Charles describes how much of the technology transfer occurs. Basically, the tall whites would participate in classified meetings by sitting in and helping with some well placed questions.

Q. In vol one, you describe an incident where mental images entered your mind about the Tall Whites in the frontier era, can you explain?
Charles described how he was reading the History of the West, and the history of Death Valley and Indian Springs, he remembered mental images of tall whites in the frontier era when the Tall Whites. These images just entered his mind when the tall whites were nearby, and left when the tall whites departed.

Q. In the book, you mention 1954 as the first time reports of the Tall Whites were made in the vicinity of Nellis. Is there any earlier date or evidence you would think would support the presence of the Tall Whites presence in the area?
He said that the legend of Range Four Harry (a description used for the tall whites by servicemen at the Nellis base) went back at least as far least 1954.

Q. Do you think these mental images you observed were real historical events or fabricated?
He felt that the mental images were based on real historical events. He noted that when the tall whites moved away, the images stopped. This suggested that the tall whites were feeding him these images to give him historical information that they wanted to pass on.

Q. Do you believe that Tall Whites have been in the Indian Springs area for a couple of hundred years?
Yes. He was told that Pamela (a tall white) was born in that valley during the James Madison era. They like the valley because it’s hot and that is an important requirement for them.

What do you think the motivations of the Tall Whites are in terms of their presence on Earth?
They used the base as a place for their deep space craft. Same as the way US Navy would use a base in the Pacific. They used the base to refuel, repair and refit their deep space craft. He talked about the long distances in space and need for a base on a planet like Earth where they can get supplies, make repairs, etc. Since deep space craft arrived and left on schedule, this meant they were engaged in commerce.

Q. Basically you believe they just wish to use Earth as a base for their deep space travel, and don’t have any ulterior motive to colonize the Earth or dominate national governments?
Yes, that’s his belief. From the tall white’s point of view, they are very happy with what they have, and their long life span – ten times longer than we do. They took ten times longer to age and also to heal. They were amazed at how quickly Hall could heal, and he described how they watched him closely when he bruised himself and healed within a day.

Charles argues that the tall whites like to keep to themselves, and don’t have any interest in dominating the Earth or taking over governments. They just want to maintain friendly relations with the US government so they can continue to use the base. He affirms that they are not interested in dominating or colonizing the Earth.

Q. In vol three, you describe an incident where you were burned by microwave weapons, can you elaborate?
He explained how the pencil weapon can be used by the tall whites to cause great pain, death, or sleep. He describes an incident where a CIA guard tried to help a tall white female in getting up the stairs at the Congressional building, but the guard inadvertently hurt the tall white and she threatened CIA guard who had to beg for his life. He explains that the pencil weapon can be used to stimulate calcium atomic frequencies to cause great pain like being burned, but one was not actually burned. When the iodine setting is used by the stun gun it can cause one to bleed to death. He compared this to the black plague when people would bleed to death due to arteries being weakened and blood would leak out causing death. In an email, Charles clarified how the pencil weapon works: “The pencil weapon could be set to stimulate the atomic frequencies of Sodium, Calcium or Iodine. Stimulating the Sodium atoms caused immense pain because it caused the nerves to discharge. If the weapon is set high enough, it can cause instant death. Stimulating the Calcium atoms caused the reverse (i.e. sleep, calmness, relaxation etc ) because it causes the nerves to reset and relax. Stimulating the Iodine atoms, of course, as described in book three, causes death by internal bleeding because it causes chemical changes that allow the blood to pass through the walls of the arteries in and around the thyroid gland.”

He said that tall whites tempers can change very quickly from friendly to hostile. The pencil weapon was used against Charles in a misunderstanding that was described in his book where but the iodine setting was used which caused internal bleeding. He recalls seeing a friendly tall white female approach him when he was lying hurt and she did a kind of graceful dance around him. In an email he described that tall white as “a young female, probably equivalent to a human young woman of age 19. she stood approximately 5’10 – 5′ 11” tall. She had a male companion who I always guessed was her brother because the two of them looked like fraternal twins. She and I were completely unafraid of each other. On a number of
evenings when I was making the morning balloon run, she would come up and stand beside or near me or slightly behind me. Frequently she would come within arm’s length and still not show the slightest fear of me. Likewise, when she came in that close, I also did not feel any particular fear of her either. Her brother, by comparison, was always noticeably afraid of me and always kept his distance from me ( usually he stayed back at least 50 – 60 feet ). He obviously liked me, but also, he obviously never trusted me. For example, he would never turn his back to me when he was anywhere in my area ( i.e. within a 100 feet ).

Q. If this could occur to you after all the trust that was developed with the Tall Whites, what does that suggest for most members of humanity?
The idea that Tall Whites can turn on one and use weapons even despite all the good things that have been done is generally correct. Tall Whites differ very much in temperament and personality as do humans. He explained an incident involving a tall white general who wouldn’t brook any discussion and could be cruel if he felt he was not being obeyed to the letter. Yet the tall white doctor was quite friendly and would approach very closely. So basically the tall whites are quite varied in terms of personality.

The tall white captain described in Charles book was a nice enough guy, but he only came around humans when it was necessary. He only wanted to know about humans to the extent it would help him do his job. A cultural difference was evident as in cases where Americans might befriend a Japanese, but wouldn’t want to socialize with Japanese. He stressed that tall whites vary tremendously in personality.

Q. When was the last time you directly communicated with a Tall White?
He referred to what was described in book three which is when he left for military service in Vietnam in 1967. Subsequent to then, he has had no communication with the tall whites.

Final Comments by Charles Hall.
There are many episodes he had that he didn’t include in the book. For example, in 1965 American generals were showing Tall White Generals through the military barracks that he slept in. When that first started happening, he thought he was dreaming. He remembers Generals talking to Tall Whites about taking Air force officers with the tall whites on scout craft. In an email, Charles elaborated on this: “The American Generals were deiscussing the possibility of the tall whites taking two young American Officers on board the Tall White’s Black Deep Space craft ( ie. to another nearby star ). I personnally saw the American Genrals themselves with their tall white counterparts boarding and deboarding the white scout craft.” He thought the discussion was too risky to include since it included what he felt was sensitive material that was probably classified.

He stressed how the tall whites would follow agreements to the letter. He gave the example of an agreement he had with the tall whites. They would basically never sneak up behind him and scare him, and he would be sure to never do the same to him to them. This agreement was closely followed in all the interactions Charles had with the tall whites and helped him survive. Basically, he believed the tall whites could be trusted once they had agreed to something.

Evaluation and Exopolitical Analysis of Charles Hall
I found Charles Hall to be very credible and compelling in his response to questions. He displays great integrity and is quite sincere in describing solely the facts concerning his experiences. He described his experiences with the Tall Whites in a very objective manner, and the emotional reality of the experiences were quite vivid and conveyed much information about his state of mind and the seriousness of the experiences he had. The emotions that Charles objectively described in great detail conveyed the extent to which what he was experiencing shook his world view, and the world views of those around him.

Charles knowledge of the tall white’s interaction with the US Air force generals is very enlightening in terms of the way agreements were followed to the letter. It appears that the tall whites are quite legalistic and this appears to be something that the US military finds to be helpful in working with them. This is very significant in the technology exchanges which Hall describes were vitally important for the US military. The tall whites were quite clear that only certain categories of technology would be shared. Categories that presumably would not give the US military deep space capabilities. According to Charles, this technology exchange involved the US collaborating in the construction of scout craft used by the Tall Whites. Providing the required material for the tall whites presumably would have helped US scientists understand the principles of space flight. Since this is what Charles observed in the mid 1960s, it may be presumed that larger constructions may have been more recently attempted that have more advanced propulsion systems than nuclear power. The exopolitical question here is what would the tall whites gain or have gained in return for allowing US authorities to collaborate in building larger space craft. If technology for smaller scout craft was given in exchange for basing rights, what Earth resources would be or have been traded for larger constructions using more advanced propulsion systems?

Charles Hall comes across as very thoughtful and very intelligent. He has a Master’s degree in nuclear physics and believes he has worked out some of the main principles of the tall white’s deep space propulsion system. He doesn’t pull any punches in describing the intimidating behavior of the Tall Whites, and their readiness to use deadly force to protect themselves and especially their children against potential threats – intended or otherwise. Even surprising or scaring tall white children could lead to tall white adults intimidating humans with their advanced weaponry as his book makes clear.

Significantly, in his book he describes how the tall whites would threaten to kill humans who scared or disobeyed them [for quotes click here]. In the interview, however, he focused on how the tall whites would only respond when they were threatened in some way. He stressed the principle of “tit for tat” that the tall whites followed which is well understood in human society and is a principle found in biblical documents (lex talionis). It appeared that in the interview, Charles was portraying the tall whites in a more reasonable light than described in his book. While it was clear that Charles was being as objective as possible, the discrepancy between his book narration and the interview in terms of the conditions when tall whites threatened to kill or intimidated military servicemen and humans in general, suggested he was painting a more sympathetic picture of their behavior than in the book. This is something I hope he can clarify later since it helps contextualize the motivations of the tall whites on Earth.

Charles describes the tall whites as having no ulterior designs on the Earth in terms of colonizing it or taking over governments. He stressed the analogy of the use of overseas bases by the US military such as in the case of US bases in Italy or the Pacific. The idea was that the use of such bases was purely done to facilitate the operations of the US military, while recognizing local sovereignty and customs. So just as the US government/military has no ulterior motive for control of Italy through its base there, so too the tall whites have no ulterior motivation to control the Earth.

This is quite a controversial argument since the control of bases throughout different periods of history is quite contentious, and was part of the dynamics that drove colonialism. Indeed, the existence of military bases in the Saudi Arabia were a major factor influencing regional perceptions of US motivations in the Middle East, and influenced events in Afghanistan and Iraq. If the tall whites need the Earth as a base for their deep space operations and commerce, then it would be naïve to believe they have no interest in influencing human affairs, and political institutions. Human history shows that when foreign powers establish bases on one’s territories, it’s hard to get such powers to leave, and to prevent them from interfering from local political affairs. We may have already achieved that point due to agreements reached between the secret committees managing extraterrestrial affairs and the tall whites.


Charles believes that the tall whites have been on Earth since at least the early 1950’s, and possibly as long as a hundred years or more based on what some Tall Whites related to him, and mental images he received when reading about local history of Indian springs. This will be a critical question to explore since obviously the time of the first appearance of the Tall Whites on Earth will influence our assessment of their ultimate goals here. If they have been here for a century or more as Hall suggests and which he was influenced to believe from the tall whites, then it would be fair to assess that they have no ulterior design on controlling the Earth. Presumably, they could have easily taken over control of the Earth in the early 19th century. If however the tall whites appeared subsequent to the 1954 Eisenhower-ET agreements (see here) then it is very likely that the Tall Whites have ulterior motives which go significantly beyond merely resupplying and repairing their deep space craft on route to other interstellar locations. The use of time travel technologies might be used by the tall whites to buttress the idea that they have been on Earth for centuries, but this could be entirely fabricated.

I believe that the tall whites were associated with the 1954 Eisenhower-ET meetings and that they subsequently established their base in the Indian Springs area of Nevada in that time period. It was clear that Charles was subtly influenced by the tall whites to believe they have been present in different periods of US history. The ability of the tall whites to refer to earlier historical periods and their presence is possibly due to advanced technologies such as time travel which they can use to influence our perceptions of their historical presence. This will be naturally controversial but is vitally important as knowledge of the tall whites becomes more widespread, and their exopolitical significance is discussed.

In sum, my view is that Charles Hall testimony is vitally important information that has great exopolitical significance, and is likely to gain widespread public interest. Already, various media outlets are treating the Charles Hall story as a major disclosure event, and Hall’s obvious integrity, clarity and coherence is generating much public interest. Hall’s disclosure of his experiences at Nellis Air Force base at Indian Springs from 1965-67 will likely play a major role in public disclosure of the extraterrestrial presence, and will help shape public perceptions of extraterrestrials and their presence on Earth.

© Michael E. Salla, PhD
December 3, 2004

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In a December 11, 2016 report, secret space program whistleblower Corey Goode described an announcement of the existence of Tall White extraterrestrials as an option being considered for a limited disclosure initiative orchestrated by the U.S. Air Force, Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency. Goode said:

Another potential plan that is in the “optional” category involves the possible disclosure of a single ET group known as the “Tall Whites.” This is the group that Charles Hall and others have met up with. The Cabal might try to introduce us to this group, explain they have been around for a really long time, and hope that they can get us to follow a mystical new religion offered by these beings. This would definitely not be in humanity’s best interest.

In order to acquaint readers to Charles Hall and his testimony concerning the Tall Whites, and why Goode’s conclusion about them is accurate, I have decided to re-post a series of articles and interviews about Hall’s testimony, which began in November 2004. What follows is the first article in the series.

Michael Salla, Ph.D.

Dec 15, 2016

[Repost: November 18, 2004] I recently received a message from one of Dr Richard Boylan’s lists discussing his views on the Tall Whites discussed in Charles Hall’s memoirs, Millennial Hospitality, vol 1-3. (the message is copied below). I find it quite disturbing that Boylan has moved quickly to unambiguously promote the Tall Whites discussed in the Charles Hall book to his various lists. Since Boylan has large lists and therefore has some influence in shaping the perceptions of a quite a number of people about different ET races, I’d like to elaborate a little on an earlier post in a discussion forum where I discussed the Tall Whites and Boylan’s advocacy of them.

Let me also reaffirm my earlier view that Hall’s information is an accurate reflection of what occurred at Nellis Air Force base during his Tour of Duty and therefore deserves serious attention. The researcher Paolo Harris has thoroughly investigated Hall’s claims and finds him to be credible making this an important case to fully understand in terms of its exopolitical significance.

Hall describes the Tall Whites as quite intimidating in terms of behavior and how they regularly stalked military servicemen on duty at the remote desert location where Hall served. The Tall Whites regularly caused powerful emotions of fear and even terror among the military servicemen who didn’t understand these Extraterrestrials or weren’t ready to interact with them in a friendly way. Yet the Tall Whites were also capable of exhibiting friendship qualities and of being teachers as in the case of Hall (see his website for details and extracts).

I’ve now completed the first two volumes of Hall’s memoirs and so far the behavior of the Tall Whites strikes me as very similar to abductee/experiencer reports of the behavior of the ‘Tall Gray’ category of ETs (the following references give the volume and page numbers from his book). There is an arrogance in the disposition of the Tall Whites and a contempt for humans displayed in their interactions with military servicemen who didn’t understand them or were frightened by them. This is similar to how `Tall Grays’ supervise many abductions and control/punish humans who resist the genetic experiments.

Hall for example describes one Tall White female who wanted to kill a military servicemen who unknowingly had hit her child with a stone and broke the child’s arm. The serviceman threw a stone at what he thought was a white dog stalking him around his hut based. Since the Tall Whites often stalked the servicemen, many serviceman thought they were wild animals and were quite frighened of them. The incident led to the Tall White threatening the servicemen with death if he didn’t leave immediately and promise to never return. This is how the serviceman in question described the incident to Hall:

I tried to reason with her. I told her that I hadn’t broken any little boy’s arm and that I liked to play with kids. She wouldn’t hear any of it. She told met that I was too stupid to know what I had done. Then she told me that the American generals had asked that I be given one warning before she and her friends killed me. She said that this was the warning. She said that if I ever came back out to the ranges alonges, their Captain would kill me. (vol 1, p. 247)

Other servicemen had similar negative encounters with the ‘Tall Whites’. One incident in particular is very revealing since it involved a cook at the Army Base who inadvertly went into the kitchen area on a day where the base was closed. He was threatened with death because he simply frightened some of the Tall White children. So there’s wasn’t any broken bones or hurting of the children, he simply scared them. Here’s how Charles `Charlie Baker’ Hall described the incident as the cook narrated what happened:

“They’re back there, Charlie. Don’t go back there. You’ll scare them like I did. They’ll kill you if you scare them. They told me so. That tall one in the corner, he told me so. He said he’d kill me if I ever scared their children again” (vol 1, p. 469).

Well Boylan makes a point in his post below about the Tall Whites using 8″ microwave stun guns to incapacitate people. Well stunning humans is not apparently the Tall White practice as revealed in the following section where a female Tall White is talking about how Charles Hall saved her daughter to an Air Force General:

“You know general, before now, I would have never thought it possible. If my daughter had tried to approach any of the others, the way she walked right up to Charlie today, they would have panicked and we would have had to kill them all” (vol 1, p. 452).

If the Tall Whites are so humane with their stun guns, why would they have to kill all the panicking soldiers rather than just stun them as Boylan describes?

Now Charles Hall saved the life of a Tall white child whose mother was a `Teacher’ and subsequently he became known as the `Teacher’s Pet’ in a project she started to get Tall White children used to humans. This is how the `teacher’ introduced `Charlie’ to the mothers of some Tall White children:

This is `Charlie Baker,’ [Hall] the teacher stated proudly. “He is just perfect for my pet project. See how gentle he is, and see how easily we can control him” (vol 1, p. 448).

So it’s clear how controlling these Tall White ETs are, and the condescending attitude they have for even those humans who have done them a service. Nevertheless, the role Hall played in the teacher’s project gave him a certain value as the “teacher’s pet” which meant that the tall Whites would kill other servicemen who may have threatened the life of Charles Hall in the sensitive secuirty environment surrounding the tall Whites base of operations. In the following passage, a Sargent narrates to fellow military security guard the consequences, according to a tall White known as ‘Harry’, if they threatened the “teacher’s pet’. Apparently, in a security drill they had drawn their guns on someone claiming to be the “teacher’s pet”:

Harry said the Real teacher’s Pet is too valuable for us to ever draw our guns on him. He said if the Real Teachers’s pet were ever killed, he could never be replaced. Old Harry said that if Sam and me had been facing the Real Teacher’s Pet, once we actually pointed our guns at him, or once he fell to the ground, both of use would have been killed instantly, before we were even aware that we were bing fired on. He said those were the direct orders he’d receiveed from the Teacher. He said both Sam and me would have been killed without warning and that neither of our guns would have ever fired. (vol 2. 179).

Yet despite having saved the teacher’s child and being the “teacher’s pet” would not save Hall if he inadvertently hurt a child in the teacher’s project as evidenced by a mother talking to her Tall White son in front of Hall:

“Alright”, replied his mother, “You may join the teacher’s pet project. Remember! Do not get too close to him, and remember, if anything ever goes wrong, if Charlie ever touches you, I will ask your uncle Harry to kill him (vol 1, p.449).

Hall was also threatened with death if he in some way interfered with the plans by the tall Whites as described in the following conversation with a tall White who was guarding a procession of tall Whites while Hall was present :

Then the Guard said forcefully, “You know that if anything goes wrong with this plan we can kill you any time we want to.” Standing my ground still shaking in fear, I replied, “Yes, but I havent’ given you any reason to kill me. Anyway, you haven’t killed me yet so you are probably not going to.” The guard smiled and replied, “You are quite right. We could have killed you in the shack the other night if we wanted to.” Then he turned and walked back to the procession. Stopping for a minute near the shorter woman he said: “See. Now he knows for sure that we will kill him if anything ever goes wrong. (vol 2, p. 113.)

Finally, if there is any doubt in the reader’s mind as to whether the Tall Whites actually kill humans who disobey/threaten them, here’s a section describing what was told by one sergeant to another who were part of a military group that accompanied a Lt-General at a high level meeting with the Tall Whites:

Tell them [a group of sergeants] to remember the teacher has ordered them to stay out of sight behind the lounge. Remember if they disobey the teacher’s orders, she will kill them as she killed the others, and there is nothing I can do about it. (vol 1, p. 447)

So here we have a very brutal doctrine of killing military servicemen who disobey orders and that this has occurred in the past.

Now as to the identity of the `Tall Whites’. Hall points to Arcturus as their origins as implied in the following passage where Hall is addressing a group of tall Whites::

A ripple of emotion passed through the crowd when I mentioned the star Arcturus, some 36 light years away. After a short pause, the older lady asked with some surprise, “Teacher, does Charlie know where we come from?” (vol 2, p. 147)

However the intimidating behavior of the tall Whites is not at all consistent with descriptions I’ve seen of the Arcturians. If there is some connection with Arcturus, it may be purely genetic as the Tall Grays have a reputation for extracting genetic material from different races. The Arcturian connection may have been no more than a period where Arcturians were involuntarily taken on board Gray ships and incorporated into their genetic experiments in much the same way that humans are taken up by Grays on Earth. Thus Gray-human hybrids may be taken to other solar systems and claim to be Earthlings, yet this is purely a genetic connection.

Now as to the Nordic appearance of the Tall Whites, again, this is likely due to some genetics taken from a Nordic race. For example, George Andrews describes in his book, Extraterrestrial Friends and Foes (p. 153), how a contactee was told how the Grays allegedly took over the Nordic world on Procyon as follows:

The Grays began to visit us, first a few as ambassadors, then as specialists in various domains where their expertise could be useful to us, as participants in different programs that involved mutual collaboration, and finally as tourists. What had begun as a trickle became a flood, as they came in ever-increasing numbers, slowly but surely infiltrating our society at all levels, penetrating even the most secret of our elite power groups…. Just as on your planet they began by unobtrusively gaining control over key members of the CIA and KGB through techniques unknown to them, such as telepathic hypnosis that manipulates the reptilian levels of the brain, so on Procyon through the same techniques … they established a kind of telepathic hypnotic control over our leaders. Over our leaders and over almost all of us, because it was as if we were under a spell that was leading us to our doom, as if we were being programmed by a type of ritual black magic that we did not realize existed.”

Hall mentions in his book that the Tall Whites began to establish a presence in the Nevada area in 1954 (vol, p. 236). This is the same year that Eisenhower met with and established agreements with the Tall Grays from Orion. My conclusion is that the Tall Whites are closely associated with the Tall Grays from Orion. Furthermore, these most likely come from Rigel, Orion which was a former Nordic world taken
over by the Grays. I’ve described this incident in my ET Motivations Report here. This accounts for the Tall Whites Nordic features that Hall describes, and their Gray/Reptilian characteristics such as 4 digit hands with two inch claws rather than nails.

My overall conclusion is the same with all the extraterrestrial races who have struck agreements with the US government and established a presence on Earth in exchange for extraterrestrial technology, and working in joint projects. They should be very closely watched and frankly regarded with much suspicion in terms of their motivations for participating in such agreements. Now given the disturbing behavior of the Tall Whites as Hall describes them, frankly I’m appalled that a researcher such as Boylan would consider such a race as exemplary Star Visitors which we should befriend, as he is currently advocating.

As I’ve described in my report on extraterrestrial motivations, there are many other extraterrestrial races who are more honorable and display much more elevated qualities. Reading the `contactee’ reports of these extraterrestrials Pleiadians, Andromedans, Lyrans, etc., doesn’t leave one with feelings of distrust and apprehension. On the contrary one often feels a great degree of love and joy, coming through. For example, I recall reading George Adamski’s discussion of the ‘Venusians’ and how they would rather give their lives when cornered rather than inflict injuries on other sentient life forms (http://www.universe-people.com/adamsk_e.htm ). It sounds very Christ-like, and while I don’t personally agree that such an attitude is very practical, it does have an emotional impact to know that some ETs actually practice elevated ethics that most would consider Christlike. The contrast with the `Tall Whites’ Hall describes couldn’t be greater.

Importantly, contactees such as Billy Meier, Alex Collier, Enrique Castillo, etc., say that the Pleiadian and Andromedan extraterrestials they interacted with, warned about working with the Grays who have a reputation for infiltrating worlds and taking them over and using the captive population for genetic material.

This finally takes me to Dr Richard Boylan who is now openly advocating his supporters to establish telepathic communications with the Tall Whites in a series of experiments. As one can see from his post he doesn’t mention the disturbing incidents described in Hall’s book, and just gives a glowing assessment of the Tall Whites, and the need to get in touch with them.

Boylan has consistently ignored all the evidence of negative behavior by the Grays and other ET races such as the Reptilians, and criticized researchers or `abductees’ who have pointed out the negative behavior. I’ve written a short piece some time ago pointing out the flaws in Boylan’s research approach in doing this, but he has not taken the hint to change tack.

Boylan is essentially behaving like a propagandist for the Tall Whites ignoring the negative incidents involving the Tall Whites which were reported by Hall himself. This is spinning of the information something Boylan has down with other whistleblowers such as Michael Wolf. Paolo Harris for example interviewed Wolf and found that he responded to a question on the benevolent/hostile ET issue in terms of an `alien barrier’ that quarantines the Earth in the following way: “The negative ETs might get through occasionally, and that is what anti-alien UFOlogists point out.”

Now Dr Wolf is here acknowledging the existence of negative ET’s so it certainly is not disinformation to posit negative extraterrestrials unless Dr Wolf himself is spreading disinformation. Yet Boylan has been careful not to acknowledge this information or allow it to be distributed on his lists. He has done similar things with other whistleblowers such as Robert Dean and Clifford Stone who refer to negative extraterrestrials.

To summarize, Boylan is dismissing the negative incidents described in the Hall book and giving an upbeat assessment of the more positive interactions of the Tall Whites. Dr Boylan is now acting as a Tall White propagandist, and advocating them as a kind of exemplary model of `Star Visitors’ that we should eagerly seek to cultivate.

In conclusion, the Tall Whites are likely a genetic variation of the Tall Grays, and most likely originate from the Rigel star system of Orion where a Nordic world was alledly infiltrated and taken over according to the testimonies of a number of contactees. This Nordic world whose genetic material is used along with other races such as the Arcturians is used to build hybrids that ultimately appear to be Nordic ETs, but are much closer to the `tall Grays’ and their questionable agendas.

The Tall Whites should be treated with extreme caution and suspicion. I recommend that individuals choose to establish contact with more benign extraterrestrial races such as the Sirians, Pleiadians, Andromedans who don’t have a track record in abductions or intimidating humans. The thought experiments Dr Richard Boylan is advocating to his members to get in touch with the Tall Grays is based on a propagandized version of the Tall White `star visitors’.

In peace

Michael E. Salla, PhD
Email: drsalla@exopolitics.org

Website: www.exopolitics.org

[Extract of Message from Dr Richard Boylan: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrRichBoylanReports/message/1226]


Recent communication exchange with former USAF Airman Charles J. Hall, author of the “Millennial Hospitality” trilogy, coupled with content revealed in his books, brings forth the following interesting revelations. There exists an extraterrestrial race whom Mr. Hall has called the Tall Whites. This race originates from a location near the star Arcturus. These Tall Whites are in adulthood around six feet in height and have generally humanoid features. They have blond hair, generally worn short, and the women tend to wear their hair in a feminine form of short cut. They are blue-eyed, and have larger-than-human eyes which wrap part-way around the side of their head. The Tall Whites otherwise look quite human, except that their skin is a chalky-white in color. They have hands with four fingers, which do not end in finger nails but rather in harder, two-inch-long claw-like appendages. The typical clothing of the Tall Whites is an aluminized, chalk-white jump suit of canvas-looking fabric. They also wear gloves of the same material, and an open, white, motorcycle-like helmet. Both the suit and the helmet emit a three-inch-out field of soft-white flourescent light. The intensity of this emitted light can be varied from soft to too bright to look at without strain.

These Tall Whites have very high intelligence and an information-processing speed which Mr. Hall estimates at 3-1/2 times faster than bright humans. The Tall Whites’s technology is advanced. One element of their technology is a transporter suit which they put on which provides personal antigravity levitation and above-ground movement, as well as force-field protection against attacks, e.g., would slow a bullet to where it would fall to the ground.

Another element of their technology is their spacecraft. They operate smaller scout ships which can transport a limited number of individuals. And then they have deep-space vessels than can travel between star systems. Their scout craft are white in color, ellipsoidal or egg-shaped, with a molded flat bottom. It has a row of large windows on each side, sort of like an airplane. Its size is comparable to that of a passenger train’s diesel engine, and has two windows in front like such a train diesel engine.

The range of these scout craft permit travel as far as the Moon or even Mars. But not deep space.
Their deep-space vessels are very large, sleek, black antigravity craft, 70 feet high, 300 feet wide, and 500 feet long. These vessels also have pilot windows, as well as have regularly-spaced running lights along their edges. Their range extends out many light years into space. Their top speed exceeds the speed of light by a considerable margin. Yes, Einstein was wrong about that.

The Tall Whites in their interactions with humans often carry stun devices for protection, eight-inch-long white tubes which can emit a microwave beam that can excite the sodium atoms in the nervous system of a threatening human and render the human unconscious for a limited period of time.

A contingent of Tall Whites have been resident in the Indian Springs Valley region of central Nevada since before the first Euro-American settlers moved west. These Tall Whites have found Earth to be a convenient way-station in their travels within this sector of the galaxy. As Charles Hall explains it, Earth’s sun is located in the middle of a very large, 10-light-year-diameter empty section of the galaxy. Most stars occur in groups, with another star within two light-months distance. Thus, for civilizations living on star systems near this empty-space “bubble”, Earth serves as a handy mid-way rest, supply and repair station.
The Tall Whites have established a residential location within French Peak, about 25 miles north-northwest of Indian Springs Auxiliary Air Force Station, Nevada. They also have a main base and space vehicle repair facility which is also built into the side of a hill at the north end of Indian Springs Valley, not too many miles from their residential location.

When Tall Whites deep-space vessels approach Earth from space, they make an initial landing at Dog Bone Lake, 25 miles east of French Peak on the Nellis Air Force Range, Nevada. Then they make a lateral transition to the main hanger, where huge doors part to admit the vessel, then re-close.
Presidents (including LBJ), select top Senators and Congressmembers, and select Generals and Admirals are aware of, and have actually met Tall Whites, either at carefully-arranged events in Washington, DC, or on the Nellis Air Force Base Range, Nevada The Tall Whites have made arrangements with the U.S. government at the highest levels to have their central-Nevada facilities undisturbed. In exchange they provide advanced scientific and technological information which has permitted rapid advances in science and technology on Earth. Some of their scientists work as technical consultants at advanced laboratory installations, including northern California, Nevada, and elsewhere.

The Tall Whites facilities in central Nevada serve as locale for Visitors from other star system to come and study the English language and American culture. These Visitors aree intensely curious about life and customs on Earth.

In the light,

Richard Boylan, Ph.D.


© Michael E. Salla, PhD
November 18, 2004

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Many have been pondering the significance of recent visits to Antarctica by prominent officials and individuals offering puzzling explanations for their travel there. On November 9, U.S. Secretary of State, John Kerry, landed in Antarctica, during the peak of the U.S. Presidential Election. Why would the serving Secretary of State leave the U.S. at such a critical time just to observe global warming patterns in Antarctica?

aldrin-marsEven more mysterious was the December 1 medical evacuation of astronaut Buzz Aldrin out of Antarctica, after a surprise visit there, apparently to become “the oldest person to reach the South Pole at the age of 86.”  He was seen along with companions wearing shirts with “Get Your Ass to Mars” logos. Was he there because he wanted to personally see the discovery of something that would make his dream of Mars colonization a reality?

Earlier on February 18, 2016, Russian Patriarch Kirill visited a Russian outpost in Antarctica, reportedly to see penguins. Just over a month later, on March 23, President Obama visited the southern Argentinian resort town of Bariloche, which is claimed to have been the secret hideaway of Adolf Hitler after World War II.  Bariloche became the unofficial capital of a breakaway German civilization based in Antarctica, and it is claimed that there is a hidden tunnel system from there to Antarctica. Also noteworthy, Presidents Eisenhower and Clinton have visited Bariloche.

The real reason for all these mysterious visits to Antarctica, and nearby locations such as Bariloche, is about to be revealed according to Secret Space Program whistleblower, Corey Goode. He says he was given time sensitive intelligence about an impending official announcement of the discovery of ruins from a futuristic civilization found in Antarctica.

Goode’s data is about to be released according to a December 6 update by David Wilcock who conducts a highly popular interview series on Gaia TV with Goode titled Cosmic Disclosure. In an article titled, “ENDGAME: Disclosure and the Final Defeat of the Cabal,” Wilcock writes:

Imagine if you woke up one day to see hyper-futuristic ruins being revealed in Antarctica. You’re not seeing this on Ancient Aliens or on alternative news sites, but everywhere… on every major media platform there is.

Imagine journalists and military officials revealing these incredible findings—in videos shot on location. An event of this magnitude could be far more distracting than any 9/11-style catastrophe.

The power elite may well be hoping that such a civilization-defining “game changer” could make any and all preceding news stories irrelevant and forgotten.

Wilcock goes on to discuss what he believes is the ulterior motive for announcing such a monumental discovery at this time. He asserts it is designed to distract the mass public from recent Wikileaks revelations concerning “Pizzagate”, and the involvement of high level officials in both the Clinton and Obama administrations in pedophilia rings which involve child sacrifice. Bill Clinton’s former chief of staff, John Podesta, who was also Obama’s Counselor and senior advisor, as well as heading the Hillary Clinton campaign, figures prominently in the Pizzagate scandal.

Wilcock’s article, which is a prelude to an upcoming article about the impending Antarctica announcement, is quite detailed and well worth reading.

Wilcock says that the upcoming article was co-written with Goode. He describes what Goode’s sources have revealed to him about the discovery in Antarctica, and plans to officially disclose this. Wilcock writes:

Corey Goode was made aware of the discovery of epic new Antarctic ruins approximately three months ago, and wasn’t even authorized to tell David what was going on.  We have only just now been cleared to release this critical, time-sensitive data to the public.

While we await the release of the upcoming update by Goode and Wilcock to provide more details of what was discovered in Antarctica, it is worth pondering the implications of Secretary Kerry’s recent visit there, if he did indeed witness such an incredible discovery.


As the outgoing Secretary of State, Kerry is sure to want to release the full portent of what he saw in Antarctica before his term officially ends in January 20, 2016. President Obama will likewise want to move forward with such a world shattering announcement to put the icing on his legacy as the first African American U.S. President, whose policies ushered in a new era of prosperity.

Alternatively, as Wilcock suggests, the goal is to distract the American press and public away from damaging evidence of the Clinton and Obama administrations’ involvement in pedophilia rings. This suggests that Podesta’s involvement in a US Air Force initiative to promote “limited disclosure” about UFOs and extraterrestrial life, was likewise designed to serve as a distraction from even more damaging “full disclosure” revelations provided by Corey Goode, William Tompkins and others.

Positive economic trends continue to emerge in the U.S. in terms of dropping unemployment, rising stock markets, and renewed optimism about the state of the economy. When combined with an official announcement of a discovery of the ruins of an advanced civilization in Antarctica, Obama will give a tremendous boost to his legacy. This information is likely to be given wall-to-wall coverage by the mainstream news, thereby distracting the public from alternative media reports about information that tarnishes Obama’s legacy.

Perhaps a further motivation for President Obama releasing news about such an Antarctica discovery would be to upstage the incoming Trump administration in terms of future bragging rights for who is to be ultimately credited for “Making America Great Again.”

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On November 13, Disclosure Project founder Dr. Steven Greer claimed in a lecture that final preparations for a false flag alien invasion were being facilitated by the recent secret space program disclosures of Corey Goode and William Tompkins. Greer claims that both are victims of psychotronic holographic technologies where they have been implanted with scripted memories of evil aliens abusing captive humans.

Part one of this two part series, examined Greer’s claims regarding Goode. This article examines what Greer had to say about Tompkins and his information.

A number of researchers into secret space program disclosures, including myself, have found Tompkins testimony and documentation to be the most powerful corroboration yet to emerge for many elements of Goode’s earlier disclosures. Consequently, Greer’s critique of Tompkins is very significant for assessing the validity of Goode’s testimony.

In his November 13 lecture, Greer introduces the concept of “alienism” which he defines as follows:

Alienism, as I’m going to define it tonight, is the proclivity to view anything that is non-human, but an intelligent life-form, as a potential threat, and the threat is directly proportional to how different they either appear or behave from us.

He has the following to say about Tompkins testimony, which in Greer’s view, promotes alienism through scripts prepared by military programs that promote the idea of threatening extraterrestrials:

I know that the folks that have been in the military programs connected to Mr. Tompkins and others have an agenda, and I question that agenda has to do with the propagation of fear and to convince the public that there’s an existential threat … as Ronald Reagan said at the UN, would unite the world to fight.

Significantly, Greer refers to “military programs connected to Mr. Tompkins,” yet provides no details of such a connection. He has no documents or witnesses of his own to corroborate his claim that Tompkins’ memories are scripts created by military programs.

Instead he makes a general reference to a USAF intelligence officer, who worked for the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, who has new information about Unacknowledged Special Access Programs that will be released in Greer’s forthcoming Unacknowledged documentary.

Greer argues that Tompkins descriptions of benevolent human-looking aliens and malevolent Reptilian-looking aliens conspiring to respectively assist or sabotage US Navy efforts to build a secret space program is a form of alienism:

With many of these people you’ll hear that the ones that the look Nordic, shall we say. I’ve spent three or four hours with Bill Tompkins, the ones that kind of look like us but are pretty, those are GROOD [great/good] the ones that look some other way those are bad ones. Isn’t that interstellar racism? … Take a step back. Aren’t the good ones always the pretty blond ones with the big breasts…  I find it appalling … are we really going to stay on that cycle of taking racism and turning it into alienism?

Now it’s important to note here that Tompkins in his autobiography and subsequent interviews was giving a descriptive account of two different extraterrestrial groups that Navy spies had discovered in relation to Nazi Germany’s secret aerospace programs.

The human looking-extraterrestrials operated in a more benign ethical way with civilians, while the Reptilian aliens behaved in a more imperialistic manner, wanting the Nazis to develop space fleets as a mercenary force that could join the Reptilians in deep space conquest.

Tompkins accounts of what the Navy spies were relaying during his covert service from 1942 to 1946, was based on trained intelligence operatives taking special note of the different actors and forces involved in helping the Nazis. The spies then reported this in detailed debriefings, which Tompkins had to relay in briefing documents to different U.S. aerospace corporations.

It’s important to note that Tompkins accounts of the aliens are very descriptive as would be expected in an intelligence gathering program, rather than emotional or philosophical accounts of them. Therefore it is mistaken to imply that Tompkins and the Navy spies were implicitly racists, whose deep biases led to them promoting alienism when reporting on different extraterrestrial races involved in Nazi aerospace programs.

In his response to a question about the veracity of the testimonies of Goode and Tompkins, Greer raises the issue of corroboration, and refers to both of their testimonies being contaminated by “seductive and interesting” memory scripts:

What am I skeptical of about things that have come our recently from Bill Tompkins and others [Goode]? A lot! Here’s the issue for me. You’ve got to have multiple points of corroboration, and the bigger the tale the more the proof you got to have. Now what I would say is it that I believe that these men are sharing what they believe to be true. I also know how easy it would be to provide information that is scripted about that, and that is seductive and interesting.

As far as “multiple points of corroboration” of Tompkins testimony is concerned, there are indeed documents and witnesses supporting many aspects of his testimony.

First are the documents that Tompkins has released concerning his claims of serving in a covert Navy Intelligence Program run by Rear Admiral Rico Botta with 29 spies in Nazi Germany learning about two Nazi secret space programs. Tompkins released a copy of two passes signed by Botta authorizing him to take multiple packets to experimental aircraft facilities.

Freedom of Information Act documents have been released that confirm that Botta had indeed signed Tompkins documents, and himself traveled to some of the experimental facilities Tompkins later said he was directed to take the briefing packets to.


Second, there is Tompkins testimony that while he worked at Douglas Aircraft Company from 1950 to 1963, he was recruited into a top secret think tank called Advanced Design. He was asked to design space battle groups with kilometers-long space craft capable of fulfilling interplanetary missions, which were covertly sent to the Navy. Tompkins has released multiple Douglas documents, and also has a retired Douglas aerospace scientist, Dr. Robert Wood, confirming that Tompkins did work with the people he claims.

Third, after his retirement from the aerospace industry in 1984, Tompkins moved to Medford, Oregon, where he set up a local Navy League Council around 1991, among whose purposes was to conduct “Special Projects” involving extraterrestrial life. Tompkins released a document confirming that the Rogue Valley Council Navy League did indeed conduct “Special Projects” as he claimed.

Navy League Board Meeting (2)

Furthermore two retired Navy officers, Captain Larry Boeck and Commander Art Lumley confirmed in private interviews that Tompkins did often speak about extraterrestrial life at Navy League meetings, and the Special Projects Committee did exist. A third Navy officer, Rear Admiral Larry Marsh, who was active at the time, traveled down from his two naval commands in Seattle, Washington, to Medford in 1991 to officiate at the opening ceremony for Navy League Council created by Tompkins.

Marsh confirmed in a private interview that Tompkins was a very competent organizer in creating the Council, and that the Council was very important to the regular Navy. He finally added that Tompkins was very knowledgeable on topics of interest to the Navy, which was a cryptic way of acknowledging that Tompkins was indeed conducting Special Projects at Medford.


Bill Tompkins with Rear Admiral Larry Marsh at opening ceremony of the Rogue Valley Council Navy League

Greer’s insistence that “multiple points of corroboration” are required for testimonies such as Tompkins, is more than satisfied by what is known so far about Tompkins in terms of documents and corroborating witnesses.  Greer fails to acknowledge any of the above “multiple points of corroboration” for Tompkins testimony, and instead simply makes the assertion that Tompkins testimony is contaminated by false memory scripts about evil Reptilian aliens and benevolent human looking extraterrestrials with no direct evidence whatsoever.

Greer’s critiques of Tompkins and Goode (see part one), fails to be persuasive since he provides no direct evidence in terms of documents or witnesses that specifically identify either of them as having received scripted memories about evil aliens through psychotronic holographic technologies.

More importantly, there is no evidence that Tompkins was ever subjected to any kind of military abduction program where such technologies were used. Greer’s arguments to this end are based purely on conjecture. He makes a tenuous connection between military programs known to use psychotronic holographic technologies to induce fearful images of aliens, to Tompkins testimony simply on the grounds that Tompkins discloses the behavior of a predatory species of extraterrestrials known to have covertly operated on Earth since at least World War II.

Without providing concrete evidence, Greer is essentially attempting to discredit a highly credentialed witness for the simple reason that his testimony doesn’t fit in with Greer’s cosmic world view that the only bad alien is in the human imagination.

The conclusion that emerges is that Greer perceives the testimonies of Goode and Tompkins as threat, not because they give impetus to plans for a false flag alien invasion, but they threaten Greer’s “limited disclosure” narrative. Greer’s disclosure narrative is based on ideas of repressed antigravity and free energy technologies, benign extraterrestrial contact, abusive military abductions using advanced technologies that are part of a secret military space program, and debunking evidence of secret government/military agreements with predatory alien species.

In contrast, Goode and Tompkins’ information amounts to “full disclosure”, which goes well beyond Greer’s “limited disclosure narrative” insofar as they reveal the history of different agreements between governments and predatory extraterrestrial races going back to the World War II era, the systemic human rights abuses that have emerged due to these agreements, the wide range in behaviors of between 40-60 different extraterrestrial civilizations interacting with surface humanity and hidden inner-Earth civilizations, and finally the existence of multiple secret space programs, some of which operate in deep space with interstellar battle groups.

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As far as the false flag alien invasion that Greer claims is being unwittingly promoted by Goode and Tompkins, I found the following comment by Goode particularly helpful in understanding current plans for staging a false flag alien event:

Believing that ALL ET’s are GOOD is more dangerous than the worry about people’s fear of EVIL ET’s. This narrative set’s up humanity to follow their genetic and social programming to WORSHIP! The Cabal’s grand deception plan is no longer to bring about a mass fake alien invasion. That was exposed heavily decades ago and is no longer a viable program to execute. This holographic technology is however still viable to use in smaller “theaters of war”. The plan now is to introduce humanity to a “Angelic and Human Like” ET group and have people worship these so-called “angelic ET’s” who bring us a “New Cosmic Esoteric World Religion”.

Goode’s assessment here is consistent with recent statements by Vatican theologians and astronomers that extraterrestrial life may be more ethically evolved than humanity.

This is exemplified in a conversation Greer had with deceased Vatican exorcist, Monsignor Corrado Balducci about the alleged alien threat:

Now when I was at the Vatican having a theological conversation with Monsignor Balducci … [he] was a senior theologian, actually demonologist for the Pope, Pope John Paul, and we were talking about this and he said this is so ridiculous, of course if they were a threat it would all be over, and he said, I love it with classic Italian flourish … he said, “lower than humanity there cannot exist in the universe.” It was hilarious. It was a very interesting perspective from this senior theologian.

Greer’s relating of the conversation indicated no attempt on his part to correct or challenge Balducci’s claim that ALL extraterrestrials in the universe are more ethically evolved than humans. Rather than challenge such an assumption contrary to thousands of witness reports of invasive alien abductions, Greer thought it hilarious and a “very interesting perspective.”

Greer’s response is not surprising given his transparent bias towards the idea that all extraterrestrials visiting Earth are positive, and more highly evolved than humanity.

More importantly, Greer’s conversation with Balducci signifies his alignment with recent Vatican initiatives to promote the idea that extraterrestrials are our “brothers in Christ.” In an October 27, 2014 statement by Pope Francis, he said that extraterrestrials can be part of the plans of “God the creator” in the evolutionary process.

As Goode warns, however, the current plan for a false flag alien event has evolved from an invasion scenario, which is no longer tenable, to angelic looking extraterrestrials appearing that help establish a “New Cosmic Esoteric World Religion”.

This is precisely what researchers Tom Horn and Chris Horn have been claiming the Catholic Church is preparing for in a future announcement about the existence of extraterrestrial life, and secret plans to incorporate an alien component into its theological orthodoxy. The extraterrestrials would become a cosmic mid-wife helping humanity get closer to God through a “New Cosmic Esoteric World Religion.” Predictably, this would lead to the establishment of a priesthood and missionaries that could carry the new message to the stars.

This is how Horn and Putnam describe the Vatican plan for an alien savior to kick start a new global religion:

The investigation you are reading uncovers this clandestine blueprint … and along the way, an astonishing exotheological plan by the Vatican itself for the arrival of an alien savior intelligence …and its connection with Petrus Romanus, the Final Pope. Pope Benedict resigned as this book headed to the printer. By now, the world knows who Petrus Romanus is. But do you know his role for the alien savior? (Exovaticana, pp. 337-38).

Ironically, rather than the testimonies of Goode and Tompkins facilitating a false flag alien invasion as Greer claims in his November 13 lecture, Greer’s criticisms and limited disclosure narrative is instead facilitating a false flag alien savior event that would feature extraterrestrials helping humanity in a way that leads to the establishment of a “New Cosmic Esoteric World Religion.”

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