Rockstar Tom DeLonge today Live Streamed the launch of his latest venture, To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science. During this Live Streaming he introduced a number of former aerospace scientists and defense department personnel knowledgeable in applying exotic information gained from the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP – aka UFO) for the development of advanced transportation technologies.

Each of the presenters at the Live Stream explained some of their expertise acquired during their careers and how it could help in the development of a transportation revolution. This is exemplified in the effort to develop a space-time device that could make transportation around the globe possible in a matter of minutes.

A graphic of the planned device was shown in the Live Streaming. 

This is what former Lockheed engineer, now head of the Science Division at To The Stars Academy, Stephen Justice, had to say about the device:

This is a concept for an international point-to-point transportation craft that will erase the current travel limits of distance and time.  It mimics the capabilities observed in unidentified aerial phenomenon by employing a drive system that alters space-time metric.  We have glimpses of how the physics of this works, but we need to harvest technologies from the Science Division to “realize” the capability.

Elon Musk recently discussed his newest initiative involving the “Big F*ucking Rocket” (BFR) which is based on reusable rocket technology to cut travel between major cities to under an hour in his address to the International Astronautical Congress in Adelaide, Australia. DeLonge’s team is laying a more futuristic vision using more advanced space-time technology.

DeLonge emphasized how groundbreaking it was that individuals with former deep access to the classified aerospace industry were willing to go on the public record in being an integral part of the To The Stars Academy.

What was unsaid is that such individuals have worked in classified aerospace projects where these very space-time technologies have been successfully developed, and are operational in secret space programs, as insiders including former aerospace engineer, William Tompkins, have been revealing.

Last year, DeLonge met with Tompkins, who recently passed away on August 21, 2017. After hearing some of Tompkins’ testimony about an alleged US Navy Secret Space Program, DeLonge got up and left the meeting which was also attended by former McDonnel Douglas scientist, Dr. Robert Wood, who has played an important role in verifying Tompkins’ information.

Thus it appears that DeLonge couldn’t believe that his team of government and military insiders would have been denied knowledge of such a Navy run space program if it was genuine. Nevertheless, evidence continues to grow that both the Navy and US Air Force have their own separate aerospace programs using space-time technologies.

DeLonge’s co-authored book, Sekret Machines Book 1: Chasing Shadows (2016) described such a classified Air Force program, and suggested that non-fiction books would appear with more information about it gained from his team, at the time, of 10 advisors. DeLonge’s 2017 book, Sekret Machines: Gods: Volume 1 of Gods, Man & War, was a big disappointment in that regard. His promised disclosure of a USAF secret space program appears to have stalled.

The new acronym for sightings of craft belonging to secret space programs is UAP, which appears to be an attempt at distancing the study of such craft from the long standing UFO field of investigation and its extraterrestrial connotation.

DeLonge’s initiative has parallels to Dr. Steven Greer’s earlier Sirius Project, which tried to revolutionize the transportation industry by having inventors and whistleblowers collaborate in releasing new energy technologies.

Ultimately, Dr. Greer failed to break through the restrictions imposed by the national security system set up to prevent the public release of such technologies.

Back in the late 1960’s, Dr. Robert Wood ran a study of UFO sightings in order to determine the commercial viability of antigravity performing technologies for the McDonnell Douglas aerospace company. Ultimately, limited funding led to the end of Dr. Wood’s study.

It appears that DeLonge may have better luck in achieving this breakthrough given the support he is receiving through the military community and elements of the aerospace industry. He hopes to crowdfund his To The Stars Academy. A promotional video was shown at the livestream providing information on how the public can support DeLonge’s initiative.

Many will be disappointed in DeLonge’s failure to get insiders to reveal their knowledge of classified aerospace projects that use space-time technologies. Nevertheless, his To The Stars Academy deserves support, as much as Musk’s BFR initiative, since both will help open public imagination to the possibility of a profound transportation revolution.

When it comes to developing space-time transportation technologies, the prospect of reinventing the wheel will be time consuming and duplicates what has occurred in the classified world. Yet this seems necessary while efforts continue to push for the disclosure of black project technologies to the public,

Former Lockheed Skunkworks director Ben Rich famously summarized the problem when he said:

We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.

DeLonge’s To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science, doesn’t qualify as such an act of God, but it is a small step forward in facilitating such a breakthrough.

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Today at the International Astronautical Congress in Australia, Elon Musk unveiled his plans for the “Big F*cking Rocket” (BFR) which will be the means of turning humanity into a spacefaring civilization. He aims to cannibalize his fleet of Space X rockets and reentry capsules to create a fleet of BFR rockets capable of cutting the travel time between major cities on earth to less than an hour, and making possible the establishment of human colonies on the Moon and Mars.

His BFR rocket will use huge tanks of super-cooled liquid oxygen as the propulsive force. He plans to first build BFR rockets to cut travel time between major cities on Earth to under an hour. The flight time between New York and Shanghai, 7000 miles (11,265km) apart, would be 39 minutes.

Using revenue from his profitable satellite business, and future revenue from rocket travel between major cities, Musk aims to fund his more ambitious plans for colonies on the Moon and Mars. He set 2022 as the target date for his first BFR rockets to Mars.

BFR has 40 cabins that can accommodate up to 6 people each

What makes Musk’s vision of humanity becoming a spacefaring civilization remarkable is that it uses conventional rocket technologies to achieve his goals in less than a decade. Given his proven track record in building a profitable commercial space company from scratch, there’s little doubt that he can succeed in his goal.

Importantly, he stresses that his plans for BFR will make it possible for everyone to fly into space in short trips between major cities for the equivalent “a full fare economy in an aircraft”. This will revolutionize the aviation industry, and will certainly get the attention of Boeing, Airbus and other major aviation companies.

This raises the question of how does Musk’s plans for the BFR impact on disclosure of secret space programs using classified antigravity and torsion field technologies as reported by multiple insiders and whistleblowers? The most powerful impact is that it will allow many people to actualize their dream of space flight.

Even if limited for most to a short terrestrial trip, from say New York to Shanghai, Musk’s plan breaks the glass ceiling on who can become a spacefaring astronaut. A big part of the reason why secret space programs where able to develop without the knowledge of much of the planet’s population was that space travel was beyond the reach of the common person.

Rumors of antigravity and torsion field propulsion technologies just didn’t inspire people to investigate since most assumed that space was for the select few, and not for the uninitiated many. Musk’s BFR changes that perception forever.

Now everyone can dream of becoming a spacefaring astronaut, and the technologies that can facilitate that more quickly and safely will now get on people’s radar. Rumors of secret space programs run by the US Air Force, US Navy, multinational corporations, etc., will get people to take claims of suppressed technologies very seriously.

The testimony of insiders and whistleblowers with knowledge of secret space programs will attract people’s attention, leading to further important leaks by sympathetic elements within the military industrial complex. This is exemplified in a recent series of triangle shaped UFOs being photographed near MacDill Air Force Base.

These mysterious craft which appeared just before Hurricane Irma hit the Tampa Bay region, were capable of maneuvers only possible for craft using antigravity and torsion field technologies, which overcome the law of inertia.

People will take such reports and sightings more seriously reasoning that if antigravity and torsion field technologies have been safely developed for secret space programs, then why not have national governments take steps to declassify these for the nascent commercial spacefaring industry open to all?

Make no mistake, Musk’s effort to turn humanity into a spacefaring civilization using conventional rocket technologies, will accelerate the disclosure process. His bold vision for BFR rockets to cut travel time between Earth’s major cities to under an hour and for interplanetary travel with bases on the Moon and Mars, makes disclosure of secret space programs inevitable.

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A declassified Central Intelligence Agency document reveals that in 1984, the CIA employed a psychic “remote viewer” to look at a region of Mars as it was approximately one million years ago. The remote viewer, who was not aware that the coordinates given were on the planet Mars, described seeing pyramids, futuristic technologies and a very tall human-looking civilization facing impending environmental calamity.

Small part of the Cydonia region, taken by the Viking 1 orbiter and released by NASA/JPL on July 25, 1976

What makes the CIA document remarkable is that the coordinates provided to the unknown remote viewer were of the Cydonia region as depicted in a series of Viking Orbiter images of Mars in 1976. Cydonia became famous after a succession of researchers claimed that the region contained a face, ruins of a city, and pyramids.

The first reference to artificial structures found in Cydonia date to an October 25, 1977, National Enquirer article titled “Did NASA Photograph Ruins of an Ancient City on Mars?”  It’s worth pointing out that the Enquirer was a tabloid run by Gene Pope, a CIA asset who was trained in psychological warfare.

Pope and the National Enquirer’s chief purpose was to hide the truth in plain sight by releasing it in sensationalized news stories with questionable sources that would be widely ridiculed by the general public. Subsequently, any academics or scientists prepared to investigate such sensational claims faced ridicule from their peers and ruining their professional careers.

Nevertheless, competent researchers did turn their attention to the now controversial Viking Orbiter images and found that they indeed did appear to show an artificially created “Face on Mars”, nearby ruins dubbed “Inca City”, and even pyramids.

The first objective analysis of the Viking data was published in 1982 in Omni Magazine by the researchers Vincent DiPietro, an electrical engineer, and Gregory Molenaar, a computer engineer. Their 1982 Omni article was an extract of their 77-page book, Unusual Martian Surface Features, also released that year. They were soon followed by other independent researchers such as Richard Hoagland who in 1987 authored The Monuments of Mars: A City on the Edge of Forever.

What this short review of the history of the Viking images of Cydonia tells us is that while researchers such as DiPietro, Molenaar and Hoagland were widely ridiculed by their scientific peers for their analyses and conclusions, the CIA was paying very close attention.

Declassified CIA documents confirm that remote viewing was taken very seriously by the Agency and other intelligence services. Significant funding went into studying the usefulness of remote viewing as an intelligence gathering tool.

The conclusion was that remote viewing had sufficient accuracy to be utilized for field work as the following declassified CIA document dated May 9, 1984 clearly states. ­­

Among the most accurate of remote viewers described in the CIA documents was the famed psychic Ingo Swann. In his 1998 book, Penetration, Swann described at length how the CIA utilized his remote viewing skills.

One assignment in 1975 was to spy on secret bases on the Moon, which were run by one or more extraterrestrial civilizations. In chapter five, Swann opens by describing his remote viewing of the Moon for Axelrod/Axel, a CIA officer:

Given the earlier off-planet locations assigned to top remote viewers like Swann, it is not surprising that the CIA employed a remote viewer to learn about the origins of the pyramids and other artificial Mars structures in the Cydonia region.

The protocol used for the session is described on page 2 of the CIA document, which is dated May 22, 1984:

The rest of the CIA document (pp. 3-9) is a transcript of the remote viewer responding to questions about different locations and time periods given to him (in 1984, all known remote reviewers were men). The remote viewer is referred to as “SUB.,” while the questioner is “MON.”

This is what the remote viewer reports after being given his first question:

The coordinates are for the Cydonia region, and immediately the remote viewer describes some kind of pyramid sitting in a valley. This is remarkable corroboration for the multiple researchers who have identified pyramids in the Viking images of this exact region of Mars.

Next, the remote viewer responds to a serious of questions concerning the population living in the region shortly before planet-wide geological disturbances that occurred approximately one million years ago. He describes the population as very tall and thin, and looking to escape the disturbances which included very violent storm activity:

The Martian civilization is dying and the population knows about it:

The Martians are waiting to travel elsewhere to survive. Some are able to escape to distant regions, presumably off-planet, as the following quote suggests:

Next, the remote viewer describes what clearly appears to be a spacecraft taking survivors to another planet over a million years ago:

The above description is very suggestive of what Earth may have looked like at the time. So did escaping Martians travel to Earth approximately a million years ago leaving behind them pyramids and other ruins in the Cydonia region, which were observed by the Viking orbiter in 1976 and the CIA’s remote viewer in 1984?

Continued in Part 2

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A series of video frames taken of the SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket explosion on September 1 show two UFOs in the vicinity, just before and during the failed pre-launch test. The video frames are hard evidence linking the SpaceX explosion to an alleged space war being fought between rival secret space programs according to whistleblower Corey Goode.

The SpaceX rocket was carrying a $150 million satellite belonging to Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg who was quick to tweet his disappointment:

Zuckerberg on Space X

Elon Musk tweeted an initial analysis that only identified where the explosion took place:

Musk on Explosion

UFO and Space X explosion

Screen capture of video showing close up of UFO seen during SpaceX explosion. Source: Jim Stone

According to investigative reporter, Jim Stone, the way in which one of the UFOs interacted with the rocket just as it exploded suggests it was an attack, and not a case of a fuel tank breach in the upper stage:

This explosion started at the top of the rocket, right where the UFO was, and not near the bottom, where virtually all rocket explosions start. No malfunction caused this, if this started at the top of the rocket only a fuel tank breach in an upper stage that was not being tested could have caused this, and that means the rocket was most likely shot with something.

The attack was intended to prevent the satellite reaching Earth orbit to perform a nefarious purpose, Stone stated:

Before it blew up, a UFO showed up, fired something at the rocket, and then quickly flew away. The image here shows the UFO quite clearly. If Spacex can’t explain what this UFO is, then I am going to say that either off world help arrived to keep Facebook grounded or white hats in American intelligence destroyed this rocket to keep something evil from being launched.

An analysis of 10 frames from the video of the explosion (see BBC video below) show two UFOs appearing just before the rocket test, and one flying just above the rocket as it explodes.

The author, who conducted the frame by frame analysis, concludes:

You will see a small looking ufo/object buzz by the rocket as it explodes!  The ufo buzzes by the head of the rocket coming from the right side and moving to the left side of the screen at incredible speed.  This is definitely some type of secret space program weapon technology being used.  The secret space program war is in full affect and this time in full view.

The alleged attack follows earlier claims by Secret Space Program whistleblower, Corey Goode, that space battles have recently intensified between rival secret space programs. Goode provided an artist’s depiction of one of these battles fought over Antarctic skies space in early 2016.

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Circumstantial support for Goode’s claims emerged with President Barack Obama delivering a report to the U.S. Congress on May 26 proposing an “integrated policy” to deter potential enemies in space. In a letter released through the White House Press Secretary discussing the report along with a classified Annex, Obama said:

The report is the result of an interagency process with the objectives to reduce risks to the United States and our allies in space; and to protect and preserve the rights, access, capabilities, use, and freedom of action of the United States in space.  Success will require a multi-year effort and commitment across all departments and agencies, and I look forward to your continued support. 

Obama’s “multi-year effort and commitment across all departments and agencies” was clearly intended to create and fight space wars as soon as possible.

It appears that Obama’s proposed interagency space defense policy was really intended to help what Goode describes as a lower level secret space program comprising the USAF Space Command, the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) and Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).

Goode claims that in February this year, he was abducted by operatives from this lower level space program who wanted to find out where he was getting his information from, because he has been accurately revealing details of highly classified space activities.

Apparently, the USAF/NRO/DIA is wanting to beef up its own space assets during a time of increasing military hostilities between spacecraft that are of unknown origin to them. Goode, however, identified these the warring spacecraft as belonging to differing factions of secret space programs allied with rival alliances comprising humans and extraterrestrials.

What adds significant support to Goode’s incredible claims of warring space alliances is a recently published paper by an astrophysist, Duncan H. Forgan, in the prepublication science website, Forgan claims that rival alliances, what he describes as ‘cliques’, may disagree over the extent to which contact is allowed to happen on more primitive planets such as Earth:

One clique attempting to place an interdict on contacting ‘primitive’ civilizations is likely to encounter significant problems if another clique disagrees … It may well still be the case that the Earth resides in a region of space occupied by a conservative clique bent on non-contact.

UFOs captured on camera just as the Space X experienced an upper stage explosion while conducting its pre-flight rocket testing is further evidence that a secret space war is indeed occurring between rival space programs and alliances.

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This year marks the 50th anniversary of the most documented UFO case in Australian history – the April 6, 1966, sighting of a flying saucer by over 200 witnesses, who saw it fly overhead for several minutes before briefly landing and taking off again near two schools in the Melbourne suburb of Westall.

The Westall UFO case has been the subject of several Australian news reports and documentaries, which have tried to find answers to the mystery of what precisely had landed. Recent whistleblower testimonies provide a compelling answer – the flying saucer was part a secret Australian aerospace program involving the development of antigravity technology in cooperation with the U.S. and Great Britain.

There have long been unconfirmed reports that the US, along with the United Kingdom, began developing a secret space program with the assistance of Nazi scientists extracted from Germany soon after the end of World War II. Early Nazi flying saucer prototypes called “Vril” were allegedly secretly removed from Germany and shared equally by the US and Britain as required by wartime agreements.

These technology exchange agreements date back to Britain’s “Tizard Mission” where a delegation of British scientists led by Henry Tizard traveled to the U.S. in September 1940, and shared British technologies in advance of an expected Nazi German invasion of Britain. 

What is undisputed fact is that 1500 leading Nazi aerospace scientists were extracted to the USA under Project Paperclip, and hundreds of others were evacuated to the United Kingdom by an elite military group called T-Force which forcibly abducted them when necessary.

The former Nazi scientists were put to work in U.S. and British laboratories to develop a new generation of rockets based on the V-2, which were ultimately used to establish nuclear ballistic missiles and also the NASA space program.

Other Nazi scientists were allegedly secretly assigned to develop antigravity space craft using principles of high energy plasma and high voltage electrostatic charges.

High energy plasma, which would circulate around a highly conductive ring at very high revolutions per minute, was a speciality field of one of the Nazi scientists brought to the U.S. by Project Paperclip. Professor Winfried Otto Schumann. He was allegedly involved in developing the first Vril flying saucers in the 1920’s and 1930’s.

Paperclip Memorandum Schumann

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Schumann’s name appears on the list of scientists requested by the US Army Air Force (predecessor to the US Air Force established in September 1947) back in 1946, which suggests that his speciality was important for highly classified aerospace projects being studied at the highly classified Dayton, Ohio, aerospace facility.

The first documented reference to electrostatics as a means of antigravity propulsion (electrogravitics) can be found in a 1928 British patent by Thomas Townsend Brown for an electrogravitic device called a gravitator. This has come to be called the Biefeld-Brown Effect, and was incorporated in a 1952 bid by Brown to the U.S. Navy to build a fleet of flying saucer craft called Project Winterhaven.

According to official records, Project Winterhaven was turned down by the U.S. Navy and a subsequent attempt by Brown to fund it through a non-profit foundation resulted in failure. In December 2015, William Tompkins, a retired aerospace engineer came forward to reveal that the U.S. Navy had secretly funded the development of flying saucer craft after all.

According to Tompkins, this was done by the Navy approaching private aerospace contractors such as Douglas Aircraft Company, to design and eventually build an assortment of antigravity vehicles.

Tompkins, revealed that while he worked at Douglas’ Advanced Design (1951-1963), he was responsible for submitting designs for kilometer long space craft using antigravity technologies, to the U.S. Navy in “unsolicited bids.” These early designs were used for constructing U.S. Navy space battlegroups which began deployment in 1984, as the Solar Warden Space Program.

The U.S. antigravity space program involved leading think tanks and aerospace companies such as Douglas Aircraft Company and the RAND Corporation, which was an off-shoot of Douglas. At the time, Douglas was the leading U.S. manufacturer of advanced military aircraft, and had created a classified think tank called Advanced Design, which was split off to form RAND, according to Tompkins.

Tompkins said that he was directly involved in a covert Navy intelligence program, which had discovered during World War II that up to 30 different flying saucer prototypes had been developed by the Nazis. These Nazi prototypes, or designs for them, were closely studied in U.S. and British laboratories after the war.

Douglas Memo on Antigravity Research

Douglas Memo Confirming Antigravity Research by William Tompkins superiors – Click image to enlarge

Further, Tompkins states that he worked under two senior scientists at Douglas, Dr. William Klemperer and Elmer Wheaton, who were actively researching antigravity principles and UFOs. Wheaton left Douglas in 1962 to take charge of similar projects at Lockeheed’s Skunkworks. Tompkins has supplied a document (on right) that confirms that his superiors were working on antigravity in the 1950’s, as he claimed.

Similar antigravity research was underway in Great Britain involving think tanks and leading aerospace companies. In 1956, a London based organization called “Gravity Rand” published a scientific discussion paper called “The Gravitics Situation,” which revealed the extensive research being conducted by leading aerospace scientists in Britain.

The U.S. and Britain were not alone in researching or developing antigravity technologies. In 1956, Interavia Magazine reported: “There are gravity research projects in every major country of the world. A few are over 30 years old.”  Among these countries was Australia, a staunch ally of both Britain and the U.S.

In Australia, the Aeronautical Research Laboratories (1949-1994) was actively involved in classified antigravity research, according to a research physicist, Stan Deyo. Deyo has revealed that when he traveled to Melbourne, Australia in May 1972, he was given a letter of introduction to the head of Aeronautical Research Laboratories, located at Fishermans Bend, where Deyo could continue the antigravity research he had earlier begun in the U.S.

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The letter was written by Dr. James B. Maxfield, a Texas radiologist, who was recommending Deyo as someone familiar with antigravity research, who could help the Aeronautical Research Laboratories in its own program. According to Maxfield’s letter, first released in Deyo’s book, The Cosmic Conspiracy, Maxfield had an interest, as did the father of the Hydrogen Bomb, Dr. Edward Teller, in the field of antigravity.

According to Deyo, Teller headed the antigravity research program in the U.S., and was actively assisting major allies such as Australia and the UK in their own respective programs. Deyo provided a second letter from Dr. Maxfield, discussing a planned future visit by Teller to Melbourne, which was part of a secret U.S. and Australian cooperation on antigravity technology.

Support for Deyo’s claim is found in an article published in November 1955 by the New York Herald Tribune, which identified Teller’s leading role in U.S. antigravity research:

The initial steps of an almost incredible program to solve the secret of gravity and universal gravitation are being taken today in many of America’s top scientific laboratories and researcher centers… These include Dr Edward Teller of the University of California.

Deyo’s testimony is further supported by Bob Lazar, an innovative rocket propulsion engineer turned whistleblower, who says that it was Dr. Teller who recruited him to join a classified facility at Area 51 called S-4, where he witnessed nine antigravity spacecraft that were being secretly studied. According to a former CIA Agent, Kewper, who claims to have visited S-4 in 1958, four of the flying saucer craft were early German designs, two of which were called “Vril”.

Finally, in his autobiography, Memoirs: A Twentieth-Century Journey in Science and Politics, Teller confirms his friendship with Dr. James Maxfield who had contacts with some of Australia’s leading industrialists (p.496). This included Lang Hancock, a very wealthy Australian mining magnate who was Maxfield’s personal friend.  Teller’s biography confirms the role Maxfield played in organizing at least two of Teller’s trips to Australia where he met with Hancock and other influential Australians.

During his May 1972 Melbourne visit, Deyo was surprised to learn how knowledgeable the Australian scientists were about antigravity principles, and even witnessed a prototype flying saucer craft at one of the Aeronautical Research Laboratories workshops at Fishermans Bend.

Tompkins and Deyo’s testimony, along with that of other whistleblowers, suggest that from the 1950’s, Australia closely worked with Great Britain and the U.S. in developing antigravity spacecraft, some of which resembled flying saucers. This establishes the possibility that the 1966 Westall incident was part of a classified antigravity vehicle test.

As the top graphic illustrates, Fishermans Bend is only 25 kilometers flying distance from the Westall area (now South Clayton), across Port Phillip Bay. Furthermore, it is only 30 kilometers across the Bay from Australia’s oldest aviation facility located at the RAAF Base Point Cook.

If Australia was testing antigravity vehicles, then either Fishermans Bend or Point Cook could have been used since both are adjacent to Port Phillip Bay where the craft could fly over a large body of water largely undetected.

Such a possibility is supported by some of the witnesses to the Westall incident who described camouflaged military personnel – thought to be American special forces – who quickly sanitized the flying saucer landing area. The rapid response of some of the military personnel – as little as 20 minutes according to witnesses – suggests the personnel were stationed nearby to monitor a test.

One Australian UFO researcher, Keith Basterfield, has found that a classified program called HIBAL involving high altitude balloons, was officially scheduled for a launch on April 5, 1966, one day before the Westall incident, but could have actually occurred on the same day. While he proposed Project HIBAL as a possible explanation for the Westall sighting itself, a more plausible answer is that it was a cover program for a more highly classified flying saucer program.

Leaked National Security Agency files by Edward Snowden confirm that the military intelligence community in the U.S. and its Echelon partners (Australia, Britain, Canada and New Zealand) will use a classified program as a cover for an even more highly classified program.

The flying saucer issue, as pointed out by Wilbert Smith, a former Senior Engineer with the Canadian Department of Transportation, were the most classified matter in the U.S. national security system. Consequently, a classified high altitude balloon program (HIBAL) would have been a very effective cover for a more highly classified Australian flying saucer program.

NSA leaked slide showing SENTRY EAGLE program where different DHS, DOD, and NSA clasified programs are hidden within less classified national programs. (NSA)

NSA leaked slide showing SENTRY EAGLE program where different DHS, DOD, and NSA classified programs are hidden within less classified national programs. (NSA). Click to Enlarge

What now takes on special significance is the August 1966 visit to Australia by Teller, which he wrote about in Memoirs: A Twentieth-Century Journey in Science and Politics (p. 497). He refers to Dr. James Maxfield as having suggested the visit to him.

Given Maxfield’s two letters to Deyo in 1972, revealing Maxfield and Teller’s interest in antigravity research, this suggests that the 1966 visit also very likely involved antigravity research. Consequently, the April 6, 1966 Westall flying saucer incident can be linked to Teller’s first visit to Australia four months later, and was possibly a test of an antigravity flying saucer, where HIBAL was used as a cover program for national security reasons.

Finally, we have the not insignificant fact that Rear Admiral Rico Botta, identified by Tompkins as the U.S. Navy officer in command of a covert espionage program with 29 spies in Nazi Germany, learning about the development of antigravity spacecraft, was born and raised in the Australian city of Melbourne, before emigrating to the U.S. in 1908, at age 18.  

The cooperation between the U.S., Britain and Australia in developing and testing of flying saucer craft using principles of antigravity, dating as far back as the 1950’s, provides a compelling explanation for some of the many UFO sightings in Australia. Among these, the 1966 Westall flying saucer incident stands out as one that likely has a very worldly explanation – the top secret cooperation between Australia, the U.S. and Britain in developing antigravity vehicles for a secret space program.

Michael E. Salla, Ph.D.

[NOTE: An upcoming Australia Tour with Dr. Michael Salla in three cities – Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney – in July/August 2016, will present documents and whistleblower testimony about the “Origins of Secret Space Programs”, and how this may help finally answer one of Australia’s greatest UFO mysteries. Tickets and further information about my Secret Space Programs Australia Tour are available online.]

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Sleeping giants imprisoned

Giants that have been in hibernation in “stasis chambers” for thousands of years are awakening, and are being sought out by elite military forces, according to several independent sources. After being located, awakened giants are allegedly being captured and held hostage by powerful global elite groups that do not want the rest of humanity to learn the truth.

Secret space program whistleblower, Corey Goode, was among the first to publicly disclose the existence of “stasis chambers” that were holding perfectly preserved giants for thousands of years. In an August 4, 2015 interview on the popular show, Cosmic Disclosure, Goode discussed how he had accessed information on “smart-glass pads” during his covert service about these sleeping giants and the technology of the stasis chambers that were preserving them.

Goode said:

When I was in the program, the Secret Space Program, when I would have time to sit and look at the smart-glass pad, there was lots of information that I looked at. And one of them was that there were beings that they found underneath the surface of Earth, underneath…usually underneath mountains, burial mountains… Indian burial mounds that were not dead but weren’t quite alive. They called them “stasis beings”. And it turned out that had used a technology that had been there long prior, from this group they called the “ancient builder race”… So, it didn’t put the beings in stasis that a lot of us would think of, as in being frozen. But it just changed the way they experienced time.… they would probably go to sleep for maybe 20 minutes, and 30,000 years or so would pass by.…

Goode described the size of the beings found in the stasis chambers when they were first discovered in the 19th century, all over the planet:

And to look down in, they saw these very tall beings, or very large giant humans with reddish beards…. these tall, red-headed, red beard groups were in Europe and South and North America. And apparently, at one time, before the last Ice Age apparently, they had a very large area that they ruled.

Goode gave examples of stasis chambers that had been found around the world. Some were still operating with different modern human groups that had learned to use the technology, while others had been damaged and the beings in stasis had died as a result. 

The above video was recorded in 2008 and features an alleged stasis being – not a giant – discovered in the Kurdistan region of Iran. For analysis, click here.

According to Goode, once located, the stasis giants were kept hidden, and any that awakened would join others and not be allowed to interact with the general public.

According to Stephen Quayle, who has written several books about giants, elite U.S. military forces have been stationed around the world, including trouble spots such as Afghanistan, to locate the giants.  Quayle cites elite military personnel who have spoken about battles with the giants.

During one of Quayle’s radio interviews on Coast to Coast AM, one of his military informants called in and told the audience about an incident in Afghanistan involving a deadly encounter between a 12 foot giant and U.S. Special Forces. The informant claimed that the giant had killed nine members of an elite team sent to capture it, and it took a second team to arrive and finally kill the giant.

Quayle uses biblical sources to support his analysis of giants and what they mean for humanity in the current era. Basically, he views them as the biblical “Nephilim”, who are the offspring of demonic entities that are hostile to humanity. The Nephilim/giants, according to Quayle, were predicted to re-emerge during the end times, and be restored to power by the corrupt global elite.

In his book, Longwalkers: Return of the Nephilim, Quayle provides a fiction based on fact version of what the elite have planned:

Before history, giants and fallen angels ruled the Earth as gods – until mankind revolted in a colossal battle, banishing the bloodthirsty creatures. But now Joshua Kincaid has made an alarming discovery: Some of the giants are still alive, kept in secret underground caverns in suspended animation, waiting to be revived. Worse, a secret society operating outside the law is intent on bringing the monsters back to life and restoring the creatures as rulers of mankind.

Interestingly, Quayle’s sources have confirmed that giants have been preserved in “stasis chambers,” for extended periods, and are now awakening. This is consistent with what Goode discovered on the smart-glass pads.

However, Quayle’s view that the giants are bloodthirsty “Nephilim” ready to work with the global elite to restore demonic control over the planet does not correspond with what Goode read on the smart-glass pads.

According to Goode, the motivations of the giants were far more complex than what Quayle was suggesting. Giants belonged to highly evolved civilizations in human history who had preserved themselves in stasis chambers to sleep through the dark ages of humanity. Their awakening was a sign that we are on the verge of a global shift, and many of the giants want to play a constructive role in this transition, rather than simply reassert control over surface humanity.

Another independent source has come forward to discuss the motivations of “stasis giants,” and how they are being found and treated by covert special forces personnel. “Cobra” (a pseudonym) claims to be both an extraterrestrial contactee and an operative for a global resistance movement that dates back to 1975, when it was first established in the underground tunnels of New York City.

While there is controversy over Cobra’s identity and activities, he has released much information that is very accurate in terms of my own independent research into secret space programs and visitation by extraterrestrial life. His information, therefore, deserves careful consideration. I will consequently leave an examination of the controversy surrounding Cobra and what this means given the accuracy of his claims, for a later article.

In a March 21 interview, Cobra spoke about stasis giants and provides an additional source of information about their activities. In the interview, he responded to a series of questions concerning stasis giants:

Richard – Thank you.  There are many reports of dormant giants being discovered and awakening in caverns around the world.  Are these claims accurate?

COBRA – Yes, some of those claims are accurate.  Those giants are put into stasis in special chambers which are triggered by a certain vibrational frequency.  I would say certain intensity form of sub-atomic particles and energies from the galactic center which is the earth, those chambers get triggered and those beings then are then awakened from hibernation and many such cases have been taking place lately around the world.  Militaries of most countries or shall we say of the major countries have been suppressing that from the mass population.  And whenever that happens the military went there and just suppress the whole thing.  And yes it was happening quite much lately.

Richard – That’s amazing.  Are they a positive nature these giants?

COBRA – Most of them yes, but some of them no.

Cobra’s information about the motivation of the giants is very significant since clearly such beings are physically very powerful, and also hold much information about past civilizations. Cobra’s information is consistent with what Goode discovered on the smart-glass pads, and contrasts with Quayle’s analysis. Quayle, though, still raises important points as the following portion of Cobra’s interview suggests:

Richard – Why are they waking up now?  Because of the galactic central sun’s activity.

COBRA – Because …. they went into those chambers.  They didn’t want to wait for a change.  They have put themselves into hibernation to spare…. so not to wait too long on this planet and now when the change is happening they have interest to take part in this change.   But they were not expecting that the surface population will be taken hostage to such a great degree and now they are taken hostage by the Chimera group.

The Chimera group, according to Cobra, comprises global elites that are demonic in nature. This is consistent with much witness testimony that many groups of global elites practice various forms of demon worship. It is therefore very plausible that some of the giants might have been co-opted by the global elite in a plan to exert greater global control.

In contrast, Quayle believes that the global elite see the giants as their demonic gods, and are therefore helping restore their rule. Quayle’s analysis is therefore only partially correct.


Good and Evil by William Blake

The giants are not per se associated with demonic forces, but are being sought by elite groups that are indeed associated with such forces, since the giants – at least those positively inclined – can play a constructive role with the global awakening of humanity. This is what Goode has claimed he learned from “smart-glass pads”, and also what Cobra was told by his sources in his recent interview:

Richard – What was their actual function?  What is these beings …. what is the function to wake up in this time period to do within this time of the planetary liberation process?

COBRA – They wanted to participate in the shift.  They have various agendas.  Some of them were quite positive and some of them not so positive.  But they were not expecting that the amount of control and suppression on this planet would go that far.  All of them were captured and are now actually hostages in the various militarily bases around the world.

If accurate, then Cobra’s information helps corroborate the earlier claims of Goode regarding the awakening of stasis giants, and their potential impact on the rest of humanity in a positive manner during an evolutionary change. In this regard, Goode said:

This huge vibratory change in our Solar System. This change – supposedly we’re changing from – graduating from one density to another. We’re in transition. So if this is true and these beings are awakening, and they set their selves to wake up during this time period, I could only speculate that they wanted to be part of that.

In contrast, Quayle’s analysis overlooks the possibility that giants are being held in captivity by demonic groups, but are not themselves demonic; or, at least, not the majority of them, according to Goode and Cobra’s information.

For those giants that are inclined to work with the global elite, then Quayle’s analysis raises a chicken and egg problem over demonic influences when it comes to the global elite and some of the awakened stasis giants. The problem with Quayle’s analysis is that he makes the major assumption that all stasis giants are demonic in nature based solely on his interpretation of biblical texts.  

Consequently, he appears to tacitly support the current secret policy of locating, imprisoning and/or eliminating stasis giants, wherever they are found around the world, using elite military forces.  Not only is Quayle’s analysis deficient in this regard, but he may in fact be unwittingly helping the very demonic elite groups that want to hide the majority of these giants from public view, while possibly using others in a covert plan for exerting great influence over global affairs.

In conclusion, there is broad agreement between Goode, Quayle and Cobra that awakened giants are being actively sought after by elite global groups and special military forces all over the world. When captured, they are taken to secret detention facilities.

Clearly, the existence of giants who have hibernated for thousands of years in stasis chambers is a matter of great public interest, as is their motivations for choosing to awaken from long periods of hibernation in the modern era. The information awakened stasis giants have about ancient human civilizations, advanced technologies and extraterrestrial life deserves to be publicly released as soon as possible, and not withheld to further the interest of global elites who may be seeking ways to manipulate these giant captives.

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What follows is the full transcript of William Tompkins responding to questions on the first ExoNews TV episode (see above) presenting his testimony.

Interview Date: February 25, 2016

Location: San Diego, California

Published on ExoNews TV – 3/29/16.

Interview Key:

WT: William Tompkins

RW- Dr. Robert Wood

MS – Dr. Michael Salla

[For full introductory comments to interview click here]

MS: The following interview extract features [William] Tompkins answering questions from Dr. Robert Wood and I on the information he gained from the Navy operatives, the different corporations and thinks tanks he traveled to, and some of the aerospace technologies that were being secretly developed by the Nazis during the War. Tompkins begins the interview by describing the small office where the debriefings of the Navy spies took place at Naval Air Station, San Diego.

WT – We had this little small office. He [Rick Obatta] was commander of Naval Air Station, San Diego and so the admiral would be sitting here. I’m sitting next to him and one of my three captain bosses sitting here. A typist was sitting at the other side of the table and the Navy operative – a Lieutenant Commander or Lieutenant would sit over there. And he would lay out the information [with] some sketches, very few photographs, so it was almost all verbal, almost all. And if it was a system that we had already known about, other operatives from the information two years before, and it was an update of it, he would tie together all of the other organizations that were tied with that specific part, of say the cigar shaped vehicles, what the weapons were, what the operations were, the different companies underneath the ground, which were slave labor organizations.

RW –  I want to go back to this table where you and Rick [Obatta], the Captain and the Navy spies, sitting at this table, how many times did you get exposed to incidents like that. Was it ten or was it a thousand, like a hundred? It was four years right?

WT – I’d say a thousand, maybe 1200.

RW – Well that would be like every night for four years.

WT – Yes, it was like …

RW – Was it a nightly thing, typically occur day after day?

WT – They [Navy operatives] would stay with us for maybe a week, and we tried to put together, better define his information, OK. Then we’d put that together as a package and we’d fly that out.

RW – So it would usually be one source would give his story, it might take two or three days for him to give his story, and it would be packaged up, and then you would take it away.

WT – I’d say this continued …

RW – What I’m trying to do is grasp the overall scope of those say three or four hundred deliveries you’d make, and some of the stuff had to do with Nazi history. Did some of the scope have to with, for example, age regression, Nazi age regression, as well as Nazi UFOs?

WT – Most of it was Nazi UFOs

RW – I’m talking about what the Nazis were doing in a military mode.

WT – Yes, it went to weapons systems, all types of advanced weapons systems, all types of methods of war.

RW – Did you get exposed to the Hanebu craft designs, or anything like that during that time?

WT – I was involved in making sketches of some of the stuff that was actually there.

MS – Did you ever come across the term ‘Hanebu’ as a description for various models of German antigravity vehicles?

WT – No.

MS – What about Vril? Did you ever come across Vril as a designation, Vril 1, Vril 2 …

WT – Yes, but remember the stuff that we got … the wording was in English, some of the documents that we got were of course in German. But we didn’t get so much of the documents. It was mostly verbal, and it was saying, in his interpretation, that was another thing, because we had one of the guys to go check so and so, “I want you back over there, and I want you back here next month.” Then there’s updates to the information.

And so some of the stuff that was in German, we had another group of people convert it into English. So you are working with information that you don’t have background on, and so what you are trying to do is put enough of it together so that [for example] Lockheed could take that information, and develop it, interpret it and come up with something that could possibly be used.

When I said that many, remember that I went back to these facilities, sometimes six or seven times with updated information that we got. Because three years after they said it before, we got things now, it’s been developed. Now it’s this, this and this.

RW – So do you remember what kind of material you took to different places, JPL or Caltech as it was called then? At JPL would you take the material relevant to UFO craft or antigravity craft?

WT – Everything about propulsion, the different types of propulsion and the stuff, I had no idea what this was… Then controls, different types of controls, support systems. Almost any subject, any question you wanted to ask. Some of that information we were getting.

RW – Some of the groups didn’t get everything.

WT – No.

RW – So if there were six locations, Douglas, Caltech, MIT, is that right?

WT – Yes.

RW – And then Lockheed?

WT – Lockheed, Boeing, North American, Northrup, North American.

RW – So there were seven or eight different locations that you made deliveries to?

WT – No, it’s hundreds of different places we took the data. We took the data to every Navy Research organization. We took it to Navy Development Center, Warminster, Pennsylvannia. OK. That’s a big facility. I bet I went 20 times back there with stuff. The Caltech one, I didn’t even go to Pasadena for that. I went to the Navy’s weapons system at China Lake because Caltech was working on other programs there. They would pull their scientists off, whatever that was, and throw these guys into a package, and run with the ball…

Some of them that I went to, they wouldn’t let me disseminate the information, they were not interested. They didn’t want to have a thing to do with it. And I had that with several universities who were doing military programs.

RW: Was Purdue one of them?

WT – Yes, Purdue was one…. What I’m saying is that not everyone was willing to help the Navy.

MS – What about the Air Force? Like Wright Patterson?

WT – Yes, Wright Patterson … A couple of the admirals didn’t want that, but we had our list of who we thought could help. The point is that these went not document after document you gave them. You gave them information that was verbal almost, very little photographs, very little drawings of a specific part of the propulsion, or a method of control … of these things.

RW – Technical things.

WT – All technical stuff. I don’t mind talking about this because frankly I lived that thing for four years. It was staggering. The German titles or stuff was a problem, so we had interpreters there that would help us put the packages together to say to take to Douglas, OK? And so there’s the misinterpretations and stuff, that I’m right. All that’s part of it. You don’t get some nice good package, and so packages were taken to places that were insufficient information. So they would get all … upset with me. I’ve got to go get this and that.

RW – Even though you were not trained technically as an engineer or a scientist, you were exposed to technical information in this process. It’s usually put in terms of common language and common sense. So you understood it?

WT – I understood some of it. Some of it I had no idea what he was talking about, and I have to tell him that, you know.


William Tompkins autobiography, Selected by Extraterrestrials, is available at

Michael Salla’s Insiders Reveal Secret Space Programs and Extraterrestrial Life is also available at

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Due to recent breakthroughs in genetic research, the claims of three whistleblowers, who say they underwent an age-regression process in secret space programs, have become that much more plausible. The whistleblowers, Corey Goode, Randy Cramer and Michael Relfe, all say that they were age-regressed to become 20 years younger at the end of their respective tours of duty in secret space programs.

Recently, geneticists have identified the genes that control the aging process, and in stunning experiments, the results of which have been released in peer reviewed scientific journals, have demonstrated that they were able to reverse the aging process to varying degrees of success.

The results of these experiments make it plausible that the three whistleblowers did indeed undergo an age-regression process using classified medical technologies in secret space programs, as they claimed.

The lead genetic scientist in the publicly announced age reversal studies is Dr. David Sinclair, who discussed in an interview the results of his genetic experiments first conducted on mice:

We’ve discovered genes that control how the body fights against ageing and these genes, if you turn them on just the right way, they can have very powerful effects, even reversing ageing – at least in mice so far…  We fed them a molecule that’s called NMN and this reversed ageing completely within just a week of treatment in the muscle, and now we’re looking to reverse all aspects of ageing if possible.

He explained how this process could also be done safely for humans:

We’ve gone from mice into early human studies actually. There have been some clinical trials around the world, and we’re hoping in the next few years to know if this will actually work in people as well … They show that the molecules that extend lifespan in mice are safe in people.

Professor Sinclair went on to say in his interview that drugs based on the nicotinamide mononucleotide (NMN) molecule could be successfully developed “to restore youthfulness in human cells.”

Sinclair’s view that NMN based drugs will eventually be developed for safe use by humans is stunning in its implications. He may well be in the midst of developing the fabled elixir of life, which accounts for him quickly being elevated into the world’s 100 most influential people according to Time Magazine.

It’s important to point out that Sinclair’s pioneering genetic research is open source and unclassified. This means that is very likely, if not almost certain, that classified research in the field of age reversal/regression technology is far more advanced than anything achieved by Sinclair and his peers.

In several private interviews with William Tompkins, a former U.S. Naval Intelligence operative who subsequently worked with leading aerospace contractors for more than four decades, he revealed that he worked on a classified study developed by the company, TRW, on age regression drugs from 1967-1971.

Tompkins said that he first came across the development of age-regression technologies when he participated in the debriefings of U.S. Navy spies, from 1942 to 1945, at the Naval Air Station, San Diego. These spies revealed the existence of age-regression studies that were then secretly underway in Nazi Germany.

At the time, Tompkins job was to distribute briefing packets to U.S. companies and think tanks with expertise in the areas used by the Nazis for developing their breakthrough technologies. Tompkins said that the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) was among the academic research centers delivered briefing packets by him. Therefore it is possible that scientists at MIT have been aware of the Nazi age-regression studies since 1942!

Significantly, Sinclair’s breakthrough in age-regression studies was achieved while he was a post-doctoral fellow at MIT under Dr. Leonard Guarente at M.I.T.  Was this merely coincidence, or was Sinclair helped or encouraged while at MIT to develop the insights into the age reversal potential of genetic manipulation?

Recently, Tompkins has privately disclosed to me that classified “age-regression” drugs have been developed. He says these drugs have been used for some time in the “20 year and back” tours of duty in secret space programs. This is consistent with the age-regression process described by Goode, Cramer and Relfe, which involved medication administered to them over a two week period where they were physically immobilized.

Even more recently, Tompkins says the drugs have been refined so that they can be used for more extensive age-regression periods. For example, reversing a 90 year old back to where s/he has the physical body of a 27 year old is now possible. Tompkins says that there is a covert U.S. Navy sanctioned disclosure process underway to release these age-regression technologies into the public sector. It is, therefore, possible that Sinclair’s research may have been stimulated by this covert Navy initiative during his time at MIT.

At the very least, Sinclair’s pioneering age-reversal experiments and identification of the NMN molecule that can be used for developing “age-regression” drugs means that the claims of Goode, Cramer and Relfe no longer appear so outlandish, and are indeed scientifically feasible.

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Further Reading

gravity waves and antigravity spacecraftOn February 11, scientists at the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO), which is jointly run by the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), publicly announced the detection of gravity waves, first predicted by Albert Einstein in his Theory of General Relativity (1915). The scientific discovery supports claims by whistleblowers concerning the existence of gravity wave propulsion (antigravity) technologies secretly studied by the U.S. Navy, in conjunction with Caltech, MIT and other scientific institutions, which date back as far as 1942.

LIGO achieved its scientific feat by studying the collision of two distant black holes, which generated gravity waves that sensitive monitoring equipment could detect through fluctuations in the space time continuum. A press release by Caltech and LIGO announced:

For the first time, scientists have observed ripples in the fabric of spacetime called gravitational waves, arriving at the earth from a cataclysmic event in the distant universe…. Physicists have concluded that the detected gravitational waves were produced during the final fraction of a second of the merger of two black holes to produce a single, more massive spinning black hole.

The power generated by the black holes merging was enormous according to the press release:

About 3 times the mass of the sun was converted into gravitational waves in a fraction of a second—with a peak power output about 50 times that of the whole visible universe.

Caltech astronomers played a key role in conceiving and building the scientific equipment to detect the gravity waves, and have produced a video illustrating how the colliding black holes bend space and time locally, and generated gravity waves that would spread throughout the universe.

While the existence of gravity waves were first demonstrated in the 1970s by Joseph Taylor and colleagues, the February 11 announcement supposedly broke new ground insofar as this was the first time that gravity waves had been scientifically observed and measured.

In this regard, Caltech’s David H. Reitze, executive director of the LIGO Laboratory said:

Our observation of gravitational waves accomplishes an ambitious goal set out over 5 decades ago to directly detect this elusive phenomenon and better understand the universe, and, fittingly, fulfills Einstein’s legacy on the 100th anniversary of his general theory of relativity.

What Reitze is not publicly acknowledging is that some of Caltech’s leading scientists were aware that gravity waves had been earlier detected in Nazi Germany in top secret aerospace projects focused on developing innovative propulsion systems.

According to William Tompkins, who worked for U.S. Navy Intelligence at Naval Air Station, San Diego, from 1942 to 1945, the Navy was receiving debriefings from 28 spies embedded in top secret Nazi aerospace projects. The Navy spies were revealing Germany’s progress in developing flying saucer craft, some of which used gravity waves as a means of propulsion.

In his autobiography, Selected by Extraterrestrials, Tompkins provided documentation revealing that his service mission was to disseminate the results of the Navy Intelligence debriefings to select military facilities and scientific organizations.

Bill Tompkins - Mission Orders

Among the facilities visited by Tompkins was China Lake, where the Navy and Caltech were cooperating in studying the various aerospace technologies under development in Nazi Germany.

On February 12, Tompkins confirmed that among the debriefing packages he delivered to China Lake was information concerning gravity wave propulsion technologies then being studied in Nazi Germany. Tompkins said that the Nazis had multiple underground facilities in Europe where they were at various stages of development in designing and constructing advanced aerospace technologies.

I asked Tompkins whether Caltech was made aware, as far back as 1942, that the Germans were using gravity waves as part of the propulsion system for their space craft. He replied:

I would have to say yes. There were several different propulsions used, and that method was definitely being used…. The diversified methods of propulsion were … numerous and for different purposes. It was staggering to the Admiral [Rick Obatta – head of Naval Intelligence] and one or two of the captains who were in the Admiral’s conference room listening to the Navy operatives discuss the [propulsion] systems.

Tompkins testimony reveals that more than 70 years before Caltech’s February 11 announcement that gravity waves had been scientifically detected. Leading Caltech and MIT scientists, from 1942 to 1945, were aware of the work done by the Nazis in detecting and developing gravity waves as part of the propulsion system for advanced aerospace projects.

The way in which gravity waves are used to propel spacecraft is illustrated by the testimony of another whistleblower, who is also linked with U.S. Navy Intelligence. Bob Lazar says that in 1988, he was recruited to work out of a remote location at Nevada’s Area 51, called S-4, where he studied one out nine flying saucers that were at the highly classified facility.

Lazar provided a W-2 in support of his testimony that listed his employer as the “Department of Naval Intelligence,” which ‘officially’ hasn’t existed since a brief period during World War II. Researchers found that the address on the W-2 was redirected by the U.S. Postal Service to Naval Intelligence Command in Maryland.


Lazar says that the flying saucer he studied used gravity waves powered by an antimatter generator based on element 115. It’s important to note that at the time of his public emergence in 1989, 115 had not yet been discovered. It was over a decade later, in 2003, that an unstable isotope of 115 was first created in a laboratory, and in December 2015 it was officially added to the table of periodic elements as Ununpentium.

Bob Lazar was claiming that a stable isotope of 115 existed, and that it was used for generating gravity waves as he described in an interview with popular Las Vegas news host George Knapp.

Knapp: How is this anti-matter reactor connected to gravity generation that you were talking about earlier?
Lazar: Well, that reactor serves two purposes; it provides a tremendous amount of electrical power, which is almost a by-product. The gravitational wave gets formed at the sphere, and that’s through some action of the 115, and the exact action I don’t think anyone really knows. The wave guide siphons off that gravity wave, and that’s channeled above the top of the disk to the lower part where there are three gravity amplifiers, which amplify and direct that gravity wave….

Lazar went on to describe the capabilities of gravity wave propulsion systems:

Knapp: So you can produce your own gravity. What does that mean? What does that allow you to do?
Lazar: It allows you to do virtually anything. Gravity distorts time and space. By doing that, now you’re into a different mode of travel, where instead of traveling in a linear method — going from Point A to B — now you can distort time and space to where you essentially bring the mountain to Mohammed; you almost bring your destination to you without moving. And since you’re distorting time, all this takes place in between moments of time. It’s such a far-fetched concept!

Lazar’s testimony is very significant since it reveals that in 1988-1989, a branch of U.S. Navy Intelligence was studying gravity wave propulsion systems – more generally known as antigravity – that had been successfully developed in flying saucers located at S-4.

According to yet another whistleblower, a former CIA agent who used the pseudonym ‘Kewper’, four of the flying saucers he saw at S-4 in 1958 were developed in Germany by the Nazis and the mysterious Vril Society.

The disc on the very end was a huge one and Col. Jim said that was a German WWII craft built in 1938 and was jacked up higher on stands because it had a gun emplacement underneath, which he said the Germans called a ‘death ray.’ It was a different shape than the other [two smaller Vril] craft, was dark in color and had a larger top that stood up probably 10 or 12 feet above the saucer. That one had a diameter of about 50 or 60 feet.

Kewper’s testimony helps corroborate claims that the Nazis had successfully developed antigravity technologies for their advanced aerospace programs.

Based on the testimony of Tompkins, Lazar and ‘Kewper’, it can be concluded that in 1942, US Navy Intelligence had begun receiving briefings about the Nazis developing gravity wave propulsion systems, and that several flying saucers of Nazi and other unknown origins were later secretly studied at Area 51’s S-4 facilities.

Consequently, the announcement by Caltech and MIT astronomers claiming that gravity waves were detected for the first time in 2015 is at best incorrect, and, at worst, an attempt to falsify the historical record. The U.S. Navy’s role in gathering intelligence on Nazi Germany’s advanced aerospace projects, which included the development of antigravity propulsion systems, confirms that gravity waves were first detected as far back as 1942, if not earlier, and this was revealed to select scientists at both Caltech and MIT.

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Further Reading

ETs Prevented Navy Bases on MoonThe U.S. Navy planned to put 10,000 people on the Moon in the early 1970’s as part of a secret lunar bases program that was to be established through the NASA Apollo program. According to William Tompkins, a top aerospace designer who worked for major NASA corporate contractors during the Apollo era, the covert Navy plan came to a crushing end during the Apollo 11 mission when Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were met by a fleet of menacing extraterrestrial spacecraft.

Tompkins’ account of what really happened on the Moon is explained in his recently published autobiography, Selected By Extraterrestrials. At the time of the Moon landing, Tompkins worked for TRW, a leading aerospace corporation that built the first NASA satellite, Pioneer 1.

TRW was responsible for a range of critical components used in Apollo spacecraft, and its personnel were in the operations center for Apollo missions. Tompkins was a TRW employee from July 1967 to March 1971, and describes his role in helping design the Launch Operations Center at Cape Canaveral, Florida.

Earlier, during the final two years of his 12 year employment at the Douglas Aviation Company (1950-1963), Tompkins’ innovative designs for planned Apollo missions had greatly impressed Dr. Kurt H. Debus. In July 1962, Debus had become the first Director of NASA’s Launch Operation Center (renamed the Kennedy Space Center after the JFK Assassination), a position he held until his retirement in November 1974.

In 1963, Debus appointed Tompkins to a Working Group for the future Launch Operations Center. The two held many confidential meetings over the future of the Apollo program, and discussed its real mission as part of an ambitious Navy space program called “NOVA” for secretly establishing military garrisons on the Moon, Mars and nearby star systems.

The Apollo Moon landings were only the first stage of an ambitious four stage plan for NOVA. Stage 2 of NOVA was to put 10,000 people on the Moon. Stage 3 was to place bases on Mars and other planetary bodies in the Solar System. Finally, Stage 4 was to place manned Navy bases in 12 adjoining star systems.  

To support his radical claims, Tompkins provided several documents in his autobiography. The first is a 1963 Douglas Aviation Company study of the launch vehicles to be used in the covert NOVA program.

NOVA rocket launches

The second is an April 15, 1963 Memorandum from the Douglas Aviation Company. It confirms Tompkins’ appointment by Dr. Debus to the Launch Operations Center and the designs he was working on for NASA.

Douglas Memo confirming Tompkins on LOC Committee

Tompkins describes what he designed for the Apollo Missions and NOVA:

As Engineering Section Chief, I conceived dozens of missions and spaceships designed for exploratory operations to the planets that orbit our nearest stars. I designed a station to be built on Mars, massive NOVA vehicles and equatorial launching facilities. I also designed multiple 2,000-man military bases for our Moon… I designed the checkout and launch-test systems for the Apollo Moon Saturn V, SIV-1B and reassembly with the command control Moon vehicle, a near complete redesign of the major facilities operations for the entire Launch Control Center. (Selected by Extraterrestrials, p. xix)

During the Apollo 11 Moon landing in July 1969, Tompkins says he was in the NASA Launch Operations Center at Cape Canaveral as part of a large TRW contingent. He states that television cameras from the Apollo Lander provided a live feed of what was being witnessed by Armstrong and Aldrin.

Tompkins explains how Armstrong and Aldrin were met by a fleet of extraterrestrial spaceships that were ominously close to the Apollo Lunar Lander:

The Landing Module (LEM) actually impacted the Moon surface in the Sea of Tranquility Crater, which had tremendous size vehicles parked around part of its rim. When astronaut Neil Armstrong made that First Step for Man on the Moon he looked up to the edge of the crater and said to mission control: “There are other ships here, they are enormous. The public did not hear that statement or see the massive alien starships. Armstrong panned his camera in a 360 degree motional all around the crater and the CIA then classified the information as way above top secret. ” (Selected by Extraterrestrials, p. 418)

Tompkins drew a picture of what he witnessed on the Apollo live feed camera along with other TRW and NASA personnel.

Starships menacing Apollo 11 Mission

How this extraterrestrial action effectively put an end to the covert Navy plan, thereby endings its support for the Apollo program, is described by Tompkins:

The Extraterrestrials put up their “NO TRESPASSING” sign but allowed us to make several other additional Apollo landings to pick up a few rocks and play in the sand. The action of the extraterrestrials stopped our plans to build our manned Naval Base on the Moon. (Selected by Extraterrestrials, p. 428)

What Tompkins claims he saw happen via the NASA live feed of the Moon landing is consistent with HAM radio intercepts of the live feed, and the claims of former NASA employee Otto Bender.

According to Bender, the Apollo 11 astronauts transmitted that they were being watched by large alien vehicles. Bender confirmed that HAM radio operators had indeed intercepted VHF signals transmitted from Apollo 11 to NASA’s Houston headquarters with the following message, which NASA screened from the public:

Mission Control: What’s there ? Mission Control calling Apollo 11.

Apollo 11:  These babies are huge, sir … enormous….Oh, God, you wouldn’t believe it! I’m telling you there are other space craft out there… lined up on the far side of the crater edge… they’re on the moon watching us.

In an August 27, 2012 blog post, Dr Stephen Greer revealed that he spoke with close relatives of both Armstrong and Aldrin who had been told the truth about what the astronauts had seen on the moon:

Close friends and very close family members of both Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin have separately told me that indeed there were numerous, large UFOs around the crater where the Lunar Module landed and that these were seen by both Armstrong and Aldrin. I have also spoken to military officers that have seen the footage of this event – but it has never been made public.

Greer’s testimony is significant since it supports Tompkins’ claim that there was a live video feed recording what Armstrong and Aldrin were seeing.

So why did NASA eventually terminate the Apollo missions if extraterrestrial visitors were there and watching the Earth? The answer according to Armstrong, as relayed by an unnamed Professor at a NASA symposium, is as follows:

Professor: What really happened out there with Apollo 11?

Armstrong: It was incredible … of course, we had always known there was a possibility … the fact is, we were warned off. There was never any questions then of a space station or a moon city.

Professor: How do you mean “warned off”?

Armstrong: I can’t go into details, except to say that their ships were far superior to ours both in size and technology – Boy, where they big! … and menacing …. No, there is no question of a space station.

Professor: But NASA had other missions after Apollo 11?

Armstrong: Naturally – NASA was committed at that time, and couldn’t risk a panic on earth…. But it really was a quick scoop and back again. (Above Top Secret, p. 186)

The unnamed Professor was first quoted by Timothy Good in his ground breaking book, Above Top Secret (1987), and he corroborates Tompkins’ claim that NASA was warned off the moon, and that there were plans to build a “moon city.” The city was in fact planned to be a U.S. Navy base that was part of the NOVA program.

The extraterrestrial occupants of the large star ships intimidating the Apollo 11 mission did not want the U.S. Navy establishing a beachhead for future military bases on the Moon. By preventing the U.S. Navy in moving forward with its plan to put 10,000 people on the Moon using a number of NOVA rocket launchers throughout the 1970’s, the NOVA program effectively came to a crushing end in July 1969.

It would take the U.S. Navy more than a decade before it could complete the construction of its first antigravity space vehicles as part of its Solar Warden program. According to Tompkins and other whistleblowers, the first U.S. Navy space battle groups were deployed in the early 1980’s during the Reagan Administration, thereby establishing a U.S. Navy presence in deep space for the first time.

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